Holko

There are worse things, like not owning it at all. Now is the perfect time for HA2.

I hope not DotF,  it is so last season. 

Do you see Mattris? ----------------------------------------------------------------------> YES ----> Star Wars Disenchantment Thread
Do you see Chen G.? --------------------------------------------------------------------> YES ----> Rise of Skywalker Spoilers Allowed Discussion Thread
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Do you see publicist complaining? ----------------------------------------------------> YES -----> 2020 Oscars Thread
Do you see Stefancos threatening everyone with atomic spoilers?------------> YES -----> I booked my ticket for Star Wars:TROS
Do you see weirdos going off-top about other scores? ---------------------------> YES -----> What is the last score you listened to?
Do you see a poll?---------------------------------------------------------------------------> YES -----> Is Jay everywhere? ----> YES ----> Returning Themes in The Rise of Skywalker score
                                                                                                                                  ------> Am I everywhere? -----> YES -----> Your First Impression of TROS
Can you talk about film spoilers?--------------------------------------------------------> YES -----> Rise of Skywalker Spoilers Allowed Discussion Thread
Is your screen freezing from the number of new posts?---------------------------> YES -----> The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion

The deadline for the music branch of the Academy to release their short list of score nominees was Tuesday at 5pm PST, so that's when it was removed.  It was probably up for a while before @thx99 found the links to it for us.... and we're pretty lucky he found them when he did, since that was only about 5 hours before it was removed!  
 
All praise @thx99!

ABBA's melodies, harmonies and production are supremely well done, they set the gold standard for pop music of that type. Benny and Björn are world class tunesmiths; even the detractors wouldn't deny that fact and be able to keep a straight face.

AAAH! You did it again!

Same, plus whiny "i won't even open my mouth" contemporary pop.

Also Kylo never had any intention of killing or even really hurting her.

Solo is trash. Really a film that nobody asked for. Score is great. But why make the film. Talk about pointless.

I actually enjoyed to Canto Bight stuff, I never understood why people hate that subplot so much. My only complaint would be that some of the costumes and setpieces are a bit too "Earth-like".

Ach I was only in the chorus lads but thanks. Then again how was I to know as an astonished 8 year old bunking off school one Friday afternoon in late January 1978 (and being taken to see Star Wars with my Uncle Jack... he wasn't really my Uncle just one of my Ma's drinking pals...but every adult was either your Uncle or your Auntie in those days) how could I have known I'd end up being a miniscule minion of the Star Wars religion?
      I'd first heard of Star Wars when my Ma and I were briefly living in Blackpool in England (went went down there from Glasgow because she was forever trying to run away...from herself) and she used to work in a hotel at the seafront. I used to sit in the kitchens in the bowels of the place waiting for her to finish whilst I was being fussed over by the head waiter and his wife who was the cook.
       There was a small portable telly that I would watch whilst munching cake and on came an old game show one evening called "The Krypton Factor". There were only three channels to choose from in those days but conversely the telly was a damn sight better than it is now. Anyway The Krypton Factor (!) had pretentions of being a high brow intellectual show and one of the tasks the contestants had to achieve was to study a short clip of a newly released film then answer detailed questions about it. 
          Well on came Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Ben Kenobi in the Cantina and of course I had no idea what this was. What transfixed me though was the presence of this big hairy thing sitting alongside them.
Anyway that was that. I had been whisked to another universe for all of two minutes. But what an impression it had on me. This would've been late October/early November 1977 just about a week after my 8th birthday.
       By the end of November we were back up in Glasgow living in cheap bedsits again and by December that year there were centre page spreads about this new thing called Star Wars that would soon arrive in Scotland. It was then I remembered the big hairy thing again because his image was plastered all over the newspapers. 
      Seeing the photo of "Lord Darth" as my Ma referred to him was enough to send me stratospheric. So the day came that Friday afternoon when I was let off school to go and see this phenomenon with Uncle Jack. I got sweeties and he bought a few cans and we sat there and witnessed the whole thing. It changed my life. Me and all the millions.
        We left the Odeon Cinema on Renfield Street and on the way home bumped into my father who had been separated from my Ma for the past two years. I begged him to take me to see it again. "But you've already seen it!" he exclaimed. "But I want you to see it Da" came my reply. Ah the nuance of pester power...
        By the time Jedi was released I was 13 so therefore old enough to go on my own. I wept bitterly at the end of the film which may have been a reflection of the truly intolerable conditions I was by then enduring at home. By this time we were squatting in a ramshackle house and my Ma's drinking had reached fever pitch. All alone in the house with her I escaped...into music via the tapes of Star Wars and Empire I had pestered my Ma to buy me for Christmas 1980.
    The minute Jedi was released I knew I HAD TO GET THE MUSIC. So within a week I begged, borrowed and stole and went on as many errands as I could to gather the money for the tape. Within a few days the prize was mine. 
        I had a small mono tape recorder then and I would play those three tapes to death. I still have them. I even bought a Baton (!) from Biggars music shop on Glasgow's famous SauchieHall Street. Biggars was one block away from "Casa Cassettes" (now long gone) which was a great music store where I bought my very first tapes. I would listen to the three Star Wars tapes over and over whilst conducting an imaginary orchestra with my baton. 
       The great Carrie Fisher had this to say about the phenomena of long ago in a galaxy far far away. And I agree with her... 
 
“Movies were meant to stay on the screen, flat and large and colorful, gathering you up into their sweep of story, carrying you rollicking along to the end, then releasing you back into your unchanged life. But this movie (Star Wars) misbehaved. It leaked out of the theater, poured off the screen, affected a lot of people so deeply that they required endless talismans and artifacts to stay connected to it.” Via The Princess Diarist
 
And I think this is what the whole world has been trying to do. Trying to relive and recapture the first time we saw Star Wars as kids but failing to realise that with each new movie we got older and each film got further and further away from that feeling of childlike wonder. 
      What doesn't change though is the quality of the one element that saved me through the most desperate times of my life as a kid (and adult). The music. And here I am at 50 years old listening to the latest and very last incarnation from the pen of a master.  I wish time machines were real. I would hop into that escape pod and go back to that freezing Friday in 1978 and relive it just one more time. A golden little day I'll never forget. 
 
May the Force be with you all friends and music lovers! 

OMG 2 COLLECTIBLE CARDS!!!!!!

Approaching the Throne's probably my favourite track so far. That new theme, the MotR rendition, the choir, everything!
 
If I wanted to send a great but not really spoilery track to a friend, which would you guys recommend? Falcon Flight?

It is only fitting that this piece of the final score chapter in the saga would arrive like a... red herring? MacGuffin? The first ending of Adventures of Han? The third ending of The Forest Battle?

No matter this is extended samples (it won't feel that way when it complements the OST), or missing satisfying callbacks to existing themes or concert suites: I LOVE THIS. I just about broke down at work on the first listen... I know I will in the theatre. I don't care that it's not the soundtrack presentation never mind the score presentation in the film ("No matter that it takes an eternity, we will have the Remastered Complete and Chronological Episodes 1-9, both JWFan, and then one day, our heirs!") There are sonorities (colours) here that feel so fresh... and yes, the TV spot music I said couldn't be JW... I'm not going to comment on what themes or content should be here as we'll know in days, though if the "Farewell" theme is the suite-worthy material, I'll take it. I'll also take the Emperor's theme with mixed chorus! It feels a little out of place in the ST, but again I don't care.

Who knows whether the film presentation of the score will bring closure or articles of impeachment against Binary Sunset, but what I'm hearing now is pleasantly surprising. I'm daring to hope TROS will top all the post-OT scores (yes, my top three are the OT).

Where is @Falstaft? I'm imagining him working away furiously to update the theme/leitmotif catalogue, or at least preparing for the proper updates.

This jazz big band arrangement of Williams' classic Olympic theme is really fascinating in how it deconstructs and completely re-imagines the piece from the ground up.
 
 
1:31 - 1:54 is really cool and interesting in its re-setting of the main fanfare.
 
And by the way, the album this is from is nominated for a Grammy for Best Large Ensemble Jazz Album.
 
Here's a quote from Hazama about it:
 
https://mihohazama.bandcamp.com/album/dancer-in-nowhere

It's better for sure. And based on that leak it'll remain on top.

The Farewell theme has such an emotional, poignant but somewhat light finality to it, that I didn't hear in SW before. Battle of the Heroes does have a finality but it's dark and heavy and preoccupied with being an epic battle cue - and RotJ mostly skips it except for maybe the new Victory Celebration which doesn't do it that well, even if I like it more than many here.

The Farewell theme has such an emotional, poignant but somewhat light finality to it, that I didn't hear in SW before. Battle of the Heroes does have a finality but it's dark and heavy and preoccupied with being an epic battle cue - and RotJ mostly skips it except for maybe the new Victory Celebration which doesn't do it that well, even if I like it more than many here.

You watch too many YouTube videos!  

The Farewell theme has such an emotional, poignant but somewhat light finality to it, that I didn't hear in SW before. Battle of the Heroes does have a finality but it's dark and heavy and preoccupied with being an epic battle cue - and RotJ mostly skips it except for maybe the new Victory Celebration which doesn't do it that well, even if I like it more than many here.

He listened to the wrong score!

The Farewell theme has such an emotional, poignant but somewhat light finality to it, that I didn't hear in SW before. Battle of the Heroes does have a finality but it's dark and heavy and preoccupied with being an epic battle cue - and RotJ mostly skips it except for maybe the new Victory Celebration which doesn't do it that well, even if I like it more than many here.

The Farewell theme has such an emotional, poignant but somewhat light finality to it, that I didn't hear in SW before. Battle of the Heroes does have a finality but it's dark and heavy and preoccupied with being an epic battle cue - and RotJ mostly skips it except for maybe the new Victory Celebration which doesn't do it that well, even if I like it more than many here.

Approaching the Throne's probably my favourite track so far. That new theme, the MotR rendition, the choir, everything!
 
If I wanted to send a great but not really spoilery track to a friend, which would you guys recommend? Falcon Flight?