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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in Jay's Score Information Collection (John Williams Edition)
Yeah I just discovered it a couple months ago, between Crimson Empire and Dark Forces its possible to get almost every ROTJ insert isolated and clean, including some of the sweeteners.
For example here's the 10m5-11m1x Sweetener by itself:
10m5-11m1x.mp3
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CGCJ reacted to Doo_liss in Jay's Score Information Collection (John Williams Edition)
Radio Drama seems to support your theory (So Turns A Galaxy, So Turns A Wheel)
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CGCJ reacted to ThePenitentMan1 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
I've been waiting to post this until @enderdrag64 got to this point in the series... Here's my collection of ANH mockups!
The Robot Auction (Unrecorded Version) - Mockup by @kingpiranha
The Princess Appears (Unrecorded Version) - Mockup by @ThePenitentMan1
Binary Sunset (Unrecorded Version) - Mockup by @ThePenitentMan1
The Sand Speeder (Short Version)
The Sand Man Attacks (Unrecorded Version) - Mockup by @ThePenitentMan1
A Home Destroyed (Unrecorded Version) - Mockup by @ThePenitentMan1
Hive Of Villainy (Unrecorded Version) - Mockups by @ThePenitentMan1
The Inner City (Unrecorded Version) - Mockups by @BrotherSound and @ThePenitentMan1
The Rescue, Pt.2 (Short Version)
The Water Snake (Unrecorded Version) - Mockup by @ThePenitentMan1
The Walls Converge (Unrecorded Version) - Edited Mockup of AI-extracted Bass Drum by @ThePenitentMan1
Approaching The Target (Unrecorded Version) - Mockups by @ThePenitentMan1
The Throne Room/End Title (Alternate) - Mockups by @ThePenitentMan1
I don't believe most of these unrecorded passages have ever been shared before, and I've been itching to hear them for a long time before this series started, so, despite sheet-music-reading not being one of my strongest skills, I took it upon myself to make mockups of them to share here. Let me know if you guys find anything that needs correcting!
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention, there's only one unrecorded bit that I didn't do a mockup for: the original ending of The Little People.
I made my first attempt of it before I'd put together that it's supposed to be the Death Star motif, so it sounds pretty awful and not very Williams-y, and even my second attempt wasn't much better. It's an absolute conundrum, and I may just leave that one to someone better with music theory than I am.
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
#1.39 SW (1977) - 12m2a End Titles (Wook link)
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in Jay's Score Information Collection (John Williams Edition)
I see a clear splice point at 5:37 and a less clear but possible one at 6:00.
It would be interesting to double check the radio drama - that always presents cues as recorded without inserts - and see if it matches the film for this section
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CGCJ reacted to Bilbo in So, THIS is now a thing... The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim
And fair play to him. There is no need to have your phone on in the cinema.
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CGCJ reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Gordy Haab's INDIANA JONES AND THE GREAT CIRCLE (Video Game 2024)
These consisted of almost 50 files that needed to be meticulously stitched together. There's about 7 minutes of additional music that Gordy wrote.
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CGCJ reacted to Luke Skywalker in Gordy Haab's INDIANA JONES AND THE GREAT CIRCLE (Video Game 2024)
Lets hope for a game rip soon then, and the lenghty offical release means most will be in good quality afterall.
But it is a shame because in these games action cues usually are composed to loop and a curated offical release track would have the opening and ending from the composers preference…
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CGCJ reacted to Jay in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
@ThePenitentMan1 is right and @Doo_liss is wrong.
12M2 End Credits was written as one long cue, but they recorded it as two separate cues. Even before the cue list & take numbers showed up in the 1997 2-CD set's booklet, that should have been obvious, but with that info, it's crystal clear:
Basically 12M2 End Credits is a single 159 bar composition (well, there's also an alternate ending written as bars 160-161 that I'm sure @enderdrag64 will cover next week). Bars 1-51 cover the throne room scene and bars 52-end cover the end credits roll.
They decided to record bars 1-51 as one cue, and bars 52-end as another cue. For all intents and purposes they are two different cues, what happens on the recording stage and gets noted down in the official cue lists always supersedes whatever titles and cue numbers are on the original sheet music.
After those 2 cues were recorded, someone felt the opening of the end credits needed to be modified, so a new cue numbered 12M2X was written. This is a 21 bar cue, comprised of 9 new bars (new bars 52-60) and 12 original bars (original bars 61-72). This is because its easier to edit back to the original recording at that point.
For the film itself, the 1977 soundtrack album, and the 1993 4-CD Arista set, they replaced the original end credit's opening with 12M2X. When assembling the 1997 set there was a opportunity to maybe release the originally recorded end credit opening somewhere on it, but in the end they did not. I believe because Mike or someone else decided it wasn't different enough to warrant including the end credits twice? Not sure. I do remembering reading in an interview somewhere that Mike regretted not including the combo-edit of the Main Titles into the End Titles on that set, though - if he had done that and included the original end credits opening, the end credits could have had to have been on that set 3 times!
So anyway, the originally recorded opening remains unreleased to this day, and never turned up in a radio drama or video game. But various people have made mockups of it based on the sheet music and shared it online. I'm guessing there will be a mockup of it in next week's post?
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
#1.38 SW (1977) - 12m2 End Titles (Wook link)
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
#1.37 SW (1977) - 12m1 The Last Battle (Wook link)
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CGCJ reacted to DangerMotif in Danny Elfman, John Debney, and Christopher Young - SPIDER-MAN 2 (2004) - 2024 La La Land Records edition produced by Neil S. Bulk and Dan Goldwasser
I think we are at least one step closer to getting our Spider-Man 2 expanded
soundtrack CD’s.
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CGCJ reacted to Turbo in Music By John Williams (2024 Documentary film) - previously Steven Spielberg is Making a John Williams Documentary
Just finished going through the documentary to identify my own playlist of music heard. Most of it is John Williams with only a handful of exceptions.
Cue Movie / Album Notes Main Title Jaws Hedwig's Theme Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Rey's Theme Star Wars: The Force Awakens The Magic of Halloween E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial The Princess Appears Star Wars Prelude and Main Title (Alternate) Superman: The Movie Washington Ending and Raiders March Raiders of the Lost Ark Welcome to Jurassic Park (Film Version) Jurassic Park The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Washington Ending and Raiders March Raiders of the Lost Ark Used Previously Olympic Fanfare and Theme By Request... The Best of John Williams (1987) The Departure E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Close Encounters of the Third Kind: Excerpts John Williams-Steven Spielberg; The Ultimate Collection Over the Moon E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial The Stonecutter Family Plot The Reivers Music for Stage and Screen The Cowboys Pops Around the World Trading Stamps Sugarland Express (The) The Sugarland Express - Main Title Sugarland Express (The) End Titles Dracula The Killing of Marcel Images Great Chase Jaws Jaws - Main Title Jaws The Shark Approaches (Film Version) Jaws Tug On the Line Jaws From Bad to Worse Jaws The Empty Raft (Extended Version) Jaws Father and Son (Film Version) Jaws The Fabelmans The Fabelmans My Shining Hour World On A String A Sleepin' Bee World On A String On the Waterfront (Symphonic Suite) Bernstein: Chichester Psalms / On the Waterfront Suite / On the Town Get Happy World On A String March from 1941 John Williams and The President's Own Hit The Road To Dreamland World On A String Johnny One Note Checkmate - Rhythm in Motion Cantina Band Star Wars Catch Me If You Can: Escapades for Alto Saxophone and Orchestra - Part I John Williams-Steven Spielberg; The Ultimate Collection That Old Black Magic World On A String Peter Gunn The Music from Peter Gunn Out of Work: Part 2 Studs Lonigan Main Title Ava Collection: To Kill A Mockingbird Guns of Navarone Legend of Navarone Hassle In The Castle Checkmate - Rhythm in Motion Projected Trip Heartbeeps When I Marry Mr. Snow Carousel Hemlock and Jemima The Eiger Sanction Theme From Checkmate Checkmate - Rhythm in Motion Trial Run A Guide for the Married Man Prelude and Fugue Stan Kenton Conducts The Los Angeles Neophonic Orchestra Third Season Main Title Lost in Space: 40th Anniversary Collection Main Title John Goldfarb, Please Come Home Main Title (How to Steal A Million) How to Steal a Million - Bachelor Flat If I Were A Rich Man Fiddler on the Roof Prologue and Tradition & Main Title Fiddler on the Roof Goodbye, Mr. Chips: Overture Lights, Camera...Music! Six Decades of John Williams Love Scene Disaster Movie Soundtrack Collection: Earthquake Raising the Christmas Tree Disaster Movie Soundtrack Collection: The Poseidon Adventure Main Title, Earthquake Disaster Movie Soundtrack Collection: Earthquake Main Title (Film Version) Disaster Movie Soundtrack Collection: The Towering Inferno Violin for Concerto and Orchestra: Adagio Violin Concerto / Flute Concerto Mouse Robot and Blasting Off Star Wars The Sea Hawk Suite Previn Conducts Korngold The Desert and The Robot Auction Star Wars Ben's Death and TIE Fighter Attack Star Wars First Cue Only Imperial Attack Star Wars The Little People Work Star Wars The Land of the Sandpeople Star Wars Main Title Star Wars Yoda's Theme Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Han And Leia Star Wars: The Force Awakens Binary Sunset (Alternate) Star Wars (2-Disc Deluxe Edition) The Princess Appears Star Wars Used Previously Resolution and End Titles Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Mountain Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Appearance of the Visitors Close Encounters of the Third Kind Choir (Ad lib) / Practicing The Dialogue / Five Notes Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Original Version Unreleased The Dialogue Close Encounters of the Third Kind Contact Close Encounters of the Third Kind Ben's Death and TIE Fighter Attack Star Wars Last Cue Only Inner City Star Wars The Desert and The Robot Auction Star Wars Imperial Attack Star Wars Used Previously Jaws: Out to Sea / The Shark Cage Fugue John Williams-Steven Spielberg; The Ultimate Collection The Menu Jaws 2 An American Journey - III. Popular Entertainment American Journey Superman: March Pop in Space (1980) The Helicopter Sequence Superman: The Movie Superman: Love Theme Pop in Space (1980) Superman: March Pop in Space (1980) Used Previously Basket Game Raiders of the Lost Ark Desert Chase Raiders of the Lost Ark Well of the Souls Raiders of the Lost Ark Marion's Theme Raiders of the Lost Ark Mine Car Chase Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Indy's Very First Adventure Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade The Magic of Halloween E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Used Previously Sending the Signal E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Flying E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial The Rescue and Bike Chase E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Hymn to New England An American Journey Theme from Jurassic Park John Williams in Berlin End Credits Jurassic Park Journey to the Island Jurassic Park I Could Have Done More Schindler's List Schindler's Workforce Schindler's List Theme From Schindler's List (Reprise) Schindler's List First Part Reflections Schindler's List Schindler's Workforce Schindler's List Second Part Theme from Schindler's List Concert with Simone Porter The Reunion (Film Version) Far and Away Joseph's Dream Far and Away Hedwig's Theme from Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Across the Stars Visitor in San Diego (Extended Version) Lost World: Jurassic Park Encounter In London / Bomb Malfunctions Munich Tributes! (for Seiji) John Williams in Tokyo Violin Concerto No. 2: II. Rounds Violin Concerto No. 2 & Selected Film Themes Rey's Theme Star Wars: The Force Awakens Remembering Petticoat Lane Jurassic Park Highwood's Ghost A Gathering of Friends Soundings Original Version Unreleased 2003 Performance The Five Sacred Trees: 1. Eó Mugna The Five Sacred Trees Violin Concerto No. 2: I. Prologue Violin Concerto No. 2 & Selected Film Themes Three Pieces for Solo Cello: Pickin' Yo-Yo Ma Plays the Music of John Williams Elegy for Cello and Orchestra Yo-Yo Ma Plays the Music of John Williams Joey’s New Friends War Horse Lincoln: With Malice Toward None John Williams & Steven Spielberg: The Ultimate Collection The Early Days, Massapequa Born on the Fourth of July Arlington JFK Saving Private Ryan: Hymn to the Fallen John Williams & Steven Spielberg: The Ultimate Collection Omaha Beach Saving Private Ryan Saving Private Ryan: Hymn to the Fallen John Williams & Steven Spielberg: The Ultimate Collection Home Alone (Main Theme) Home Alone Somewhere In My Memory Home Alone Harry's Wondrous World from Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone John Williams: The Berlin Concert Flourish and Blotts / Harry Meets Lucius Malfoy Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Summoning the Patronus Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Flight From Peru Raiders of the Lost Ark The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Used Previously Indy's Very First Adventure Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Used Previously Wide Receiver Original Version Unreleased NBC News Theme - The Mission Original Version Unreleased Olympic Fanfare and Theme John Williams and The President's Own The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Used Previously The Pony Ride The River My Friend, The Brachiosaurus Jurassic Park SpaceCamp SpaceCamp Concerto for Cello and Orchestra: IV. Song Yo-Yo Ma Plays the Music of John Williams Violin for Concerto and Orchestra: Adagio Violin Concerto / Flute Concerto Used Previously Yoda's Theme Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Used Previously Over the Moon E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Used Previously Flight to Neverland - Hook John Williams & Steven Spielberg: The Ultimate Collection Yoda's Theme Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Used Previously
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in The Empire Strikes Back
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TD7zbB5XlUxZFnjz3KIgr_-jnj-MGj4-mN7DYO6XcOE/edit?usp=drivesdk
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CGCJ reacted to kingpiranha in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
It's actually one of my biggest problems (when it comes to the soundtrack) I have with the special edition (or any version that includes the "A New Hope" subtitle) of Star Wars; that the whole opening is out of sync with both the crawl's paragraphs and the build-up to, and including, the reveal of Tatooine.
It feels so off, and makes the opening of the film feel so much weaker and less impactful than the original theatrical version.
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CGCJ reacted to Manakin Skywalker in SKELETON CREW - 2024 Star Wars TV
I have just one response to that...
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CGCJ reacted to Manakin Skywalker in SKELETON CREW - 2024 Star Wars TV
I'm going to be disappointed if this doesn't mean that they recreated Ian Fraser's "cirque" music from the Holiday Special and are going to put in on the OST.
Jon Watts & Chris Ford Discuss the Upcoming 'Star Wars: Skeleton Crew' & a Suprising Nod to 'The Star Wars Holiday Special'
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in 2024 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION studio sites (featuring music)
The way I see it FYCs are just bonuses that we're fortunate to have access to, we're lucky that WB and Amazon are still even providing proper cues rather than OSTs like Disney
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CGCJ reacted to Trope in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)
I'll do my best!
One way to compare the mix would be to locate sections where the music is basically identical in both TFA and TLJ. For example, the end credits suite:
TFA Finale
TFA End Credits Excerpt.mp3
TLJ Finale
TLJ End Credits Excerpt.mp3
And here's a quotation of the Resistance theme which is very similar, if not identical, between both scores:
TFA March of the Resistance
TFA March of the Resistance Excerpt.mp3
TLJ The Battle of Crait
TLJ The Battle of Crait Excerpt.mp3
Additionally, you can try to compare bits of music which aren't exactly the same but feature similar orchestration in order to observe the difference in the mix. For example:
TFA Scherzo for X-Wings
TFA Scherzo for X-Wings Excerpt.mp3
TLJ The Fathiers
TLJ The Fathiers Excerpt.mp3
And also:
TFA I Can Fly Anything
TFA I Can Fly Anything Excerpt.mp3
TLJ Escape
TLJ Escape Excerpt.mp3
I hope you find these examples useful. In general, TFA score is drier and somewhat harder/harsher in tone, especially the upper frequencies of the brass when they are playing strongly (hence most of my excerpts are from loud, action-based sequences). I would describe the sound of TLJ score as more rounded and warmer in tone, and the instruments blend that little bit better in the mix.
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CGCJ reacted to Jay in The Legacy of John Williams (Website & Podcast)
🔴 NEW EPISODE! 🎙️
LEGACY CONVERSATIONS: LAURENT BOUZEREAU
The Legacy of John Williams presents an exclusive interview with Laurent Bouzereau, the director of “Music By John Williams,” the documentary film dedicated to the life and career of John Williams, now available for streaming on Disney+.
Laurent sits down for an in-depth talk about the honour and the responsibility of creating the first documentary film on John Williams, his lifelong love for the Maestro's music, the challenges he faced throughout the production and why he made the film thinking about future generations. Joining the conversation is archival soundtrack producer Mike Matessino, who worked as Music Consultant on the documentary.
🎧 LISTEN 👉🏻 https://tinyurl.com/zsm84npp
https://www.facebook.com/thelegacyofjohnwilliams/posts/pfbid02H9W2tnVtrH4kPXBAWJc56Sucbyd19zfe6Wyk4rfwZKzNy2erkvGNxPe4pUE22yXHl
https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2024/11/18/laurent-bouzereau-podcast/
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CGCJ reacted to TownerFan in Music By John Williams (2024 Documentary film) - previously Steven Spielberg is Making a John Williams Documentary
https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2024/11/18/laurent-bouzereau-podcast/ There's also a review of sorts in the article at the link above. -
CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
#1.36 SW (1977) - 11m2R Approaching the Target (Wook link)
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
Cue by Cue: The Music of John Williams - #1.33.5 10m1 Ben's Death Addendum:
Cue by Cue: The Music of John Williams - #1.34.5 10m2 Here They Come Addendum:
Cue by Cue: The Music of John Williams - #1.35 11m1 Stand By (Wook link)
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CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in enderdrag64's Star Wars Cue by Cue
Apologies for the late post this week
#1.34 SW (1977) - 10m2 Here They Come (Wook link)
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CGCJ reacted to DigitalfreakNYC in Newly posted Reelin' In The Years interview from 1990
RITY regularly posts clips of interviews that they have available for licensing and this was posted yesterday. Dunno where it originated but maybe some of you do. Thought you might find it interesting.
Has a date of 1990-02-15