CGCJ

Hi there again
 
As you can see I do also have an account on this forum. I have for many years now been researching and studying John Williams' music, mainly the score to Star Wars (1977), on my own. Looking through archives, articles, books, scores etc. to really understand and document the Star Wars score, its history and development, and the people involved. Being a critical editor and engraver of sheet music I also plan to do my own study score with a critical report for each cue of the score.
 
Thanks to your wonderful articles I got really inspired and finally started to look through these forums more frequently, and hopefully I'll start taking part in the discussions here.
 

For the last couple months I've been running a "Cue by Cue" series over on the star wars wiki where I've been doing an in depth write up on each cue of the original star wars score one by one, talking about its writing and recording history, showing what it would've played like if it was used as intended in the film, done a musical and thematic breakdown, and gone over its album release history.
 
Originally when I created this series I intended it as an introduction to star wars music for people who were not obsessive Williams score nerds, a gateway into Williams music for mainstream Star Wars fans. This was the reason I put it on the Star Wars wiki instead of on jwfan. That said, after running it for a couple months I'm now thinking that there's no harm in cross-posting future posts here, so I'll probably make a new thread for it and start doing so this weekend, if people are interested. 
 
Anyway, one of the advantages of posting on a new platform is that it has a different audience, and some of those people may know things that we don't. These were recently left as comments on my most recent post about the first cantina band cue:
 

🔴 NEW EPISODE 🎙
The long-awaited premiere release of John Williams' THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS is finally here, courtesy of La-La Land Records and Universal Pictures Film Music Classics. The very first collaboration between director Steven Spielberg and composer John Williams gets its much deserved first official soundtrack album, coming on the heels of the 50th anniversary of the film.
In this new “Soundtrack Spotlight” episode of The Legacy of John Williams podcast, producer Mike Matessino returns to discuss the long-awaited premiere release of "The Sugarland Express," chronicling the journey that led to the 50th anniversary soundtrack album and commenting on the virtues of both Steven Spielberg’s stunning debut film and John Williams’ gentle, blues-tinged score.
🎧 LISTEN 👉 tinyurl.com/5n83vywr
 
https://www.facebook.com/thelegacyofjohnwilliams/posts/pfbid02gheCb2xPkU6XDeaQWcEx3YUk9K5XXvdygzces7aJygEe5VwVJpk2JuCGTKnCdbwql
 
https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2024/07/03/soundtrack-spotlight-the-sugarland-express-50th-anniversary/

Return Of The Jedi End Title, clean opening (via lalal.ai v4 Orion vocal removal):
 
Raw (from Demaster):
13m5 - End Title (Clean Open).mp3
 
Edited (into Manakin's version):
13m5 - End Title (Clean Open2).mp3
 
No ESB takes here!

I didn't know at the time, I just observed the interaction between the lightsabers and the armor and drew a conclusion from that. I think I remember being a bit confused initially but then by the midway point I fully got what was happening
 
You are right that cortosis is rare and that the Jedi are unlikely to be familiar with it, the 'no shit' part is more referring to the armor shorting out their lightsabers not that its made out of cortosis
 
I just thought plenty of visual attention was given to the interaction that verbal attention would've only detracted from the sequence

The Kiner Music site has been updated with a page for this including a few cues:
 
The Path of Fear
M05 The Mountain Clan
M11 End Credits
 
The Path of Hate
Fires Continue Burning
 
Devoted
New Master
Barriss Offee End Credits
 
Realization
The Massacre
Barriss Changed Her Mind
 
The Way Out
Inside the Cave
The Way Out
 
I've updated my spreadsheet to include these. All of these are on the OST but they're the individual cues so help to figure out the breakdown of some of the tracks.

The Kiner Music site has been updated with a page for this including a few cues:
 
The Path of Fear
M05 The Mountain Clan
M11 End Credits
 
The Path of Hate
Fires Continue Burning
 
Devoted
New Master
Barriss Offee End Credits
 
Realization
The Massacre
Barriss Changed Her Mind
 
The Way Out
Inside the Cave
The Way Out
 
I've updated my spreadsheet to include these. All of these are on the OST but they're the individual cues so help to figure out the breakdown of some of the tracks.

Yeah the Kylo Ren motif popped up in an earlier episode too, and then multiple times in episode 5. Each time one of the notes is changed though, so it's not a direct quote, until the end of episode 5 where there is an actual direct quote. I think they're just repurposing it as a "Sith" theme of sorts, which is a really odd choice.
 
Continuing to use and expand upon that "Sith mystery" motif I mentioned in a previous post would've been a much better choice IMO.
 
EDIT: Unless there's a story reason for it.

Actually 00:00-00:36 of Taken Into Custody & 01:11-End of Classroom on Coruscant! I've corrected my spreadsheet.
 
Also, the first cue information has turned up courtesy of BMI:
Ascension Prelude - Pablo Croissier
Mae Ascends Osha is Reluctant - Pablo Croissier

There are at least a couple slightly obscure prequel motifs that show up multiple times in the show so far, all of which are in cues credited to Cameron Moody (guy's apparently only 21 and really knows his stuff!)
 
There's a one-off transitional melody in Attack of the Clones right before Anakin and Obi-Wan are introduced. It was also used as a "theme" for the Republic in SWTOR, so it's fitting in Acolyte as well, seemingly representing the Jedi. Although in this case it's generally only the first half of the full melody.
 
AOTC:
republic_clones.mp3
The Acolyte:
republic_acolyte.mp3
 
There's also a reoccurring motif in Revenge of the Sith that Frank Lehman dubbed the "Sith mystery" motif. Each time it appears in the film the notes are slightly changed up a bit. The version in The Acolyte is no different in that regard, being only 5 notes instead of 6.
 
ROTS:
sithmystery_sith.mp3
The Acolyte:
sithmystery_acolyte.mp3
 
I might as well also point out that about 2 years ago someone here (don't recall who) posted a video of Cameron Moody conducting a composition of his at only 19 (!), and people were commenting that he should work on a Star Wars project. Funny how that worked out, only a couple years later!
 
 

Actually 00:00-00:36 of Taken Into Custody & 01:11-End of Classroom on Coruscant! I've corrected my spreadsheet.
 
Also, the first cue information has turned up courtesy of BMI:
Ascension Prelude - Pablo Croissier
Mae Ascends Osha is Reluctant - Pablo Croissier

I created this thread so that the score could be discussed without being bogged down by all the back and forth talk about whether the show is good or not.  In this thread, I ask everyone to stay on topic of the score itself. Thanks!
 
 
 
I watched episode 1 this morning while working out, and I actually noticed the score a few times in a positive way.  I might listen to the first 11 tracks of the OST album later today.

I noticed a few little bits that sort of approached a Williams theme, but then went in another direction.  I suppose that makes sense for a show set 100 years before the events Williams scored.

I noticed a few references to prequel material. The last 30 seconds of "Taken Into Custody" sounds very similar to a couple transitions in The Phantom Menace

I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
 
The release is by no means complete:
Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
 
That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
 
There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
Meet Osha [00:29-End]
Bazil's Theme

I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
 
The release is by no means complete:
Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
 
That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
 
There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
Meet Osha [00:29-End]
Bazil's Theme

He didn't get sole credit on any of the tracks, just 'Main Artist', but that doesn't mean none of his cues were included, although it does make it hard to tell which tracks he actually wrote on. Which track is supposed to be a theme suite?

I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
 
The release is by no means complete:
Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
 
That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
 
There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
Meet Osha [00:29-End]
Bazil's Theme

I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
 
The release is by no means complete:
Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
 
That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
 
There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
Meet Osha [00:29-End]
Bazil's Theme

I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
 
The release is by no means complete:
Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
 
That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
 
There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
Meet Osha [00:29-End]
Bazil's Theme

I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
 
The release is by no means complete:
Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
 
That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
 
There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
Meet Osha [00:29-End]
Bazil's Theme

First volume of Abels' score releases tomorrow for episode 1 - 4.
There are 45 tracks and it's just shy of 1 hour 46 minutes.
 
That means a great deal, if not all is here for the first episodes. If Vol. 2 is just as long will have over 3 hours of music. If not more.
 
https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/star-wars-the-acolyte-vol-1-episodes-1-4-michael-abels/z6wps1gf90dmb
 
Tracklist
 

Chris Siddall has uploaded another transcription for the Last Crusade revealing some previously unknown cue information!
 
Scherzo For Motorcycle:
7m2a Fun in the Boathouse
7m3 The Motorcycle Chase