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    CGCJ reacted to kingpiranha in new discovery - original Cantina Band cue title   
    Hi there again
     
    As you can see I do also have an account on this forum. I have for many years now been researching and studying John Williams' music, mainly the score to Star Wars (1977), on my own. Looking through archives, articles, books, scores etc. to really understand and document the Star Wars score, its history and development, and the people involved. Being a critical editor and engraver of sheet music I also plan to do my own study score with a critical report for each cue of the score.
     
    Thanks to your wonderful articles I got really inspired and finally started to look through these forums more frequently, and hopefully I'll start taking part in the discussions here.
     
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    CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in new discovery - original Cantina Band cue title   
    For the last couple months I've been running a "Cue by Cue" series over on the star wars wiki where I've been doing an in depth write up on each cue of the original star wars score one by one, talking about its writing and recording history, showing what it would've played like if it was used as intended in the film, done a musical and thematic breakdown, and gone over its album release history.
     
    Originally when I created this series I intended it as an introduction to star wars music for people who were not obsessive Williams score nerds, a gateway into Williams music for mainstream Star Wars fans. This was the reason I put it on the Star Wars wiki instead of on jwfan. That said, after running it for a couple months I'm now thinking that there's no harm in cross-posting future posts here, so I'll probably make a new thread for it and start doing so this weekend, if people are interested. 
     
    Anyway, one of the advantages of posting on a new platform is that it has a different audience, and some of those people may know things that we don't. These were recently left as comments on my most recent post about the first cantina band cue:
     



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    CGCJ reacted to Jay in The Legacy of John Williams (Website & Podcast)   
    🔴 NEW EPISODE 🎙
    The long-awaited premiere release of John Williams' THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS is finally here, courtesy of La-La Land Records and Universal Pictures Film Music Classics. The very first collaboration between director Steven Spielberg and composer John Williams gets its much deserved first official soundtrack album, coming on the heels of the 50th anniversary of the film.
    In this new “Soundtrack Spotlight” episode of The Legacy of John Williams podcast, producer Mike Matessino returns to discuss the long-awaited premiere release of "The Sugarland Express," chronicling the journey that led to the 50th anniversary soundtrack album and commenting on the virtues of both Steven Spielberg’s stunning debut film and John Williams’ gentle, blues-tinged score.
    🎧 LISTEN 👉 tinyurl.com/5n83vywr
     
    https://www.facebook.com/thelegacyofjohnwilliams/posts/pfbid02gheCb2xPkU6XDeaQWcEx3YUk9K5XXvdygzces7aJygEe5VwVJpk2JuCGTKnCdbwql
     
    https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2024/07/03/soundtrack-spotlight-the-sugarland-express-50th-anniversary/
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    CGCJ reacted to ThePenitentMan1 in Using AI to manipulate film score audio (dialogue removal, stem separation, etc)   
    Return Of The Jedi End Title, clean opening (via lalal.ai v4 Orion vocal removal):
     
    Raw (from Demaster):
    13m5 - End Title (Clean Open).mp3
     
    Edited (into Manakin's version):
    13m5 - End Title (Clean Open2).mp3
     
    No ESB takes here!
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    CGCJ reacted to DarthDementous in THE ACOLYTE - 2024 Star Wars TV   
    I didn't know at the time, I just observed the interaction between the lightsabers and the armor and drew a conclusion from that. I think I remember being a bit confused initially but then by the midway point I fully got what was happening
     
    You are right that cortosis is rare and that the Jedi are unlikely to be familiar with it, the 'no shit' part is more referring to the armor shorting out their lightsabers not that its made out of cortosis
     
    I just thought plenty of visual attention was given to the interaction that verbal attention would've only detracted from the sequence
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    CGCJ got a reaction from HB Potlood in Tales Of The Empire (May 4th) - Mini Series   
    The Kiner Music site has been updated with a page for this including a few cues:
     
    The Path of Fear
    M05 The Mountain Clan
    M11 End Credits
     
    The Path of Hate
    Fires Continue Burning
     
    Devoted
    New Master
    Barriss Offee End Credits
     
    Realization
    The Massacre
    Barriss Changed Her Mind
     
    The Way Out
    Inside the Cave
    The Way Out
     
    I've updated my spreadsheet to include these. All of these are on the OST but they're the individual cues so help to figure out the breakdown of some of the tracks.
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    CGCJ got a reaction from Raiders of the SoundtrArk in Tales Of The Empire (May 4th) - Mini Series   
    The Kiner Music site has been updated with a page for this including a few cues:
     
    The Path of Fear
    M05 The Mountain Clan
    M11 End Credits
     
    The Path of Hate
    Fires Continue Burning
     
    Devoted
    New Master
    Barriss Offee End Credits
     
    Realization
    The Massacre
    Barriss Changed Her Mind
     
    The Way Out
    Inside the Cave
    The Way Out
     
    I've updated my spreadsheet to include these. All of these are on the OST but they're the individual cues so help to figure out the breakdown of some of the tracks.
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    CGCJ reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    Yeah the Kylo Ren motif popped up in an earlier episode too, and then multiple times in episode 5. Each time one of the notes is changed though, so it's not a direct quote, until the end of episode 5 where there is an actual direct quote. I think they're just repurposing it as a "Sith" theme of sorts, which is a really odd choice.
     
    Continuing to use and expand upon that "Sith mystery" motif I mentioned in a previous post would've been a much better choice IMO.
     
    EDIT: Unless there's a story reason for it.
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    CGCJ got a reaction from artus_grayboot in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    Actually 00:00-00:36 of Taken Into Custody & 01:11-End of Classroom on Coruscant! I've corrected my spreadsheet.
     
    Also, the first cue information has turned up courtesy of BMI:
    Ascension Prelude - Pablo Croissier
    Mae Ascends Osha is Reluctant - Pablo Croissier
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    CGCJ reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    There are at least a couple slightly obscure prequel motifs that show up multiple times in the show so far, all of which are in cues credited to Cameron Moody (guy's apparently only 21 and really knows his stuff!)
     
    There's a one-off transitional melody in Attack of the Clones right before Anakin and Obi-Wan are introduced. It was also used as a "theme" for the Republic in SWTOR, so it's fitting in Acolyte as well, seemingly representing the Jedi. Although in this case it's generally only the first half of the full melody.
     
    AOTC:
    republic_clones.mp3
    The Acolyte:
    republic_acolyte.mp3
     
    There's also a reoccurring motif in Revenge of the Sith that Frank Lehman dubbed the "Sith mystery" motif. Each time it appears in the film the notes are slightly changed up a bit. The version in The Acolyte is no different in that regard, being only 5 notes instead of 6.
     
    ROTS:
    sithmystery_sith.mp3
    The Acolyte:
    sithmystery_acolyte.mp3
     
    I might as well also point out that about 2 years ago someone here (don't recall who) posted a video of Cameron Moody conducting a composition of his at only 19 (!), and people were commenting that he should work on a Star Wars project. Funny how that worked out, only a couple years later!
     
     
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    CGCJ got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    Actually 00:00-00:36 of Taken Into Custody & 01:11-End of Classroom on Coruscant! I've corrected my spreadsheet.
     
    Also, the first cue information has turned up courtesy of BMI:
    Ascension Prelude - Pablo Croissier
    Mae Ascends Osha is Reluctant - Pablo Croissier
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    CGCJ reacted to Jay in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I created this thread so that the score could be discussed without being bogged down by all the back and forth talk about whether the show is good or not.  In this thread, I ask everyone to stay on topic of the score itself. Thanks!
     
     
     
    I watched episode 1 this morning while working out, and I actually noticed the score a few times in a positive way.  I might listen to the first 11 tracks of the OST album later today.
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    CGCJ reacted to Jay in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I noticed a few little bits that sort of approached a Williams theme, but then went in another direction.  I suppose that makes sense for a show set 100 years before the events Williams scored.
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    CGCJ reacted to enderdrag64 in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I noticed a few references to prequel material. The last 30 seconds of "Taken Into Custody" sounds very similar to a couple transitions in The Phantom Menace
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    CGCJ got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
     
    The release is by no means complete:
    Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
    Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
    Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
     
    That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
     
    There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
    Meet Osha [00:29-End]
    Bazil's Theme
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    CGCJ got a reaction from Edmilson in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
     
    The release is by no means complete:
    Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
    Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
    Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
     
    That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
     
    There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
    Meet Osha [00:29-End]
    Bazil's Theme
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    CGCJ got a reaction from enderdrag64 in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    He didn't get sole credit on any of the tracks, just 'Main Artist', but that doesn't mean none of his cues were included, although it does make it hard to tell which tracks he actually wrote on. Which track is supposed to be a theme suite?
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    CGCJ got a reaction from enderdrag64 in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
     
    The release is by no means complete:
    Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
    Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
    Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
     
    That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
     
    There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
    Meet Osha [00:29-End]
    Bazil's Theme
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    CGCJ got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
     
    The release is by no means complete:
    Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
    Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
    Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
     
    That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
     
    There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
    Meet Osha [00:29-End]
    Bazil's Theme
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    CGCJ got a reaction from HB Potlood in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
     
    The release is by no means complete:
    Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
    Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
    Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
     
    That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
     
    There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
    Meet Osha [00:29-End]
    Bazil's Theme
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    CGCJ got a reaction from ragoz350 in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    I've gone through the Volume 1 soundtrack release and put together a spreadsheet if anyone is interested in a breakdown:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrTx5pNjbe3crpmiaf_GbjpClPfrUUdD_b0d-b86rdY/htmlview
     
    The release is by no means complete:
    Episode 1 is missing 02:32-03:13 (00:41), & 09:50-10:50 (01:00).
    Episode 2 is missing 00:01-00:43 Recap (00:42) - Unsure if tracked.
    Episode 3 is missing 00:01-01:00 Recap (00:59) - Unsure if tracked.
     
    That's just for what I assume are entirely missing cues, almost every included cue is incomplete/cutdown in some way, mostly due to the combining of cues cutting off openings & endings.
     
    There was also two things I wasn't able to locate:
    Meet Osha [00:29-End]
    Bazil's Theme
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    CGCJ reacted to tomsmoviemadness in Michael Abels' THE ACOLYTE (2024)   
    First volume of Abels' score releases tomorrow for episode 1 - 4.
    There are 45 tracks and it's just shy of 1 hour 46 minutes.
     
    That means a great deal, if not all is here for the first episodes. If Vol. 2 is just as long will have over 3 hours of music. If not more.
     
    https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/star-wars-the-acolyte-vol-1-episodes-1-4-michael-abels/z6wps1gf90dmb
     
    Tracklist
     
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    CGCJ got a reaction from Martinland in Indiana Jones trilogy - Cue Titles and fan-made recordings   
    Chris Siddall has uploaded another transcription for the Last Crusade revealing some previously unknown cue information!
     
    Scherzo For Motorcycle:
    7m2a Fun in the Boathouse
    7m3 The Motorcycle Chase
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