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  1. 2 hours ago, Chen G. said:

    Now that's a big statement.

     

    Even the two "Parts" of Dune are separate productions: Villenueve did not write the two scripts, even as a story treatment, together or even back-to-back and did not film them together. They have, as far as I can tell, pretty much the same crew, but in the first part he didn't particularly try to introduce as many of the cast-members of both parts: there are many new faces in Part Two.

     

    The two films do feel reasonably of-a-piece, but Dune: Messiah is bound to be a different beast. I doubt it will play as cohesive enough to be regarded as a 7.5-hour film.

    You're right. Having seen the second part, I maybe just wanted to emphasize the narrative flow that I assume the three movies will be connected by.

     

    Yeah, it's more like Kill Bill and less like Nymphomaniac or 1900, where the films were just split up, AFTER they were shot and edited.

     

    1 hour ago, Romão said:

    Same thing as the two books, really (Dune and Dune Messiah). Regardless of how Frank Herbert has said that Messiah was always intended as an epilogue for the first book, they still very much feel like separate, distinct (albeit continuous), works.

     

    I'm sure the movies will feel the same. It's actually to the stories benefit, I think, if we feel a somewhat pronounced stylistic and tonal change in the 3rd movie

    I haven't read the books, but isn't it the case, that Villeneuve leans the second movie towards the Messiah book, unlike Herbert did?

  2. On 01/03/2024 at 12:56 PM, MaxMovieMan said:

    This movie cements both parts of Dune as all-time great sci-fi films and also as a whole with both movies combined I would say this becomes an all-time epic in general. I don’t think Denis could’ve done a better job with this and this is definitely his magnum opus. Dune: Messiah will be very interesting because the ending of this film leaves one major plot thread in a different place than the books. This plot thread is literally the driving force of Dune: Messiah so I honestly don’t know how they would even adapt the book without completely changing the plot. I think what Denis did with the change was better than the book’s ending but Dune: Messiah hinges on this thing that Denis changed. Who knows. For now we have two films that are for sci-fi what Lord of the Rings was for fantasy.

    The ending feels so open (much like ESB) that I've got the impression, we will have a movie trilogy, where you won't feel the "cut" between the two books that the whole story is based on. It just will be one big seven and a half hours movie.

  3. 21 hours ago, JTW said:

    They could’ve chosen to make a new program, with a new design and actually make it a desirable for those who already own the 2020 set. But instead Intrada went the cheap and dishonest way, and simply made new discs and used the 2020 design and added 8 and 1/2 minutes of alternate takes and 20 seconds of the main program that they left out from previous releases, another fiasco btw. 

    Your logic is that you should get a free copy, only if there is little difference between the respective releases. I don't get that in the first place, but nevermind...

     

    You now imply that a new release which is more or less the same as the old release is not desirable, or at least not "desirable for those who already own the 2020 set". I get that.

     

    So, you want to get a free copy of the new release only if/because it is less desirable to you? I mean, why even bother then?

  4. 3 hours ago, filmmusic said:

    I don't understand the hate for this film.

    It's marvelous! Great production values and a great Dustin Hoffman (I don't know who was nominated for an Oscar that year, but I would nominate him).

    Ok, Julia Roberts is indeed miscasted I think, but I got used to her..

    One of my favorite movies, and the score... second favorite Williams score ever (after E.T.). (it was sacrilege that it wasn't nominated for an Oscar)

     

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    I think one reason is the fact that this movie does not really know what it is, a muscial, a light phantasy movie for children, a grim adventure - to me it always felt very inconsistent. The other thing might be the very stripped down and naive message about family - a major and sometimes eye-rolling shortcoming in (not only) my opinion. Spielberg has done that much more profound and subtle in E.T.

  5. "The Sand Volcano" from 2:14 to finish is the end credits suite consisting of Rick's Theme and the Love Theme. Three and a half minutes rounding off the album in wonderful and musical fashion. The haphazard film edit of the end credits - I would not include that, not only because it has no new music to offer, but also because it has some very unmusical and jarring transitions, which are downright offensive to the creator of this music. The end credits of Total Recall, for example, are a different matter - there was no end credits music composed or recorded, so the recreation of the film edit served to round off the album and to include the transition between the tracked cues which was in fact recorded for this purpose only.

  6. 17 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

    But the gravest sin is that they included tracked music in the main program, notably in "Airplane Fight" and the film version of the End Credits. Goldsmith's superior intended version of the latter cue absolutely should have closed out the main program.

    The scandalous thing here is that it is not something to make up for the lack of a especially recorded end credits suite in order to elegantly close the main program - there already was an end credits suite, a really great one! Why on earth you need to replace it with that horrible compilation?! This decision is still baffling!

     

    15 hours ago, Trope said:

    The more I hear about these mistakes on Intrada releases I came very close to purchasing, the more concerned I become about their upcoming releases. Maybe they should stick to releasing niche Goldsmith scores over and over again, and leave important scores by him and other major composers (Williams, Horner, Elfman, etc.) to La-La Land and Quartet, who seem to know what they’re doing.

    The concern is very justified, they got themselves into that and they have to get out of it by themselves. The Hollow Man release was just the big showdown of carelessness for me, cause it gives you a hundred reason to purchase it again, when a fixed version will be released one day. LLL would just have waited (as they did with Hook) until they got all the needed tapes to make it a complete release and have employed competent staff for mastering and artwork.

     

    17 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

    As far as Inchon goes, I mostly just listen to the suite from Tadlow’s Blue Max album.

    If they would end up re-recording the whole thing, I'd never ever dare to just think of the original recording any more.:sigh:

  7. 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

    My solution would be that the OST should be a concept album for Neverland, and all the real world adult material would find a home on the expanded release. I don't think there's a way to include it amongst the fantasy music without sticking out like a sore thumb.

     

    I first heard the OST decades ago and, not being very familiar with the film (I've seen it once probably), did what you just described; heard the wonderful prologue, skimmed past 'We Don't Wanna Grow Up' (school play at the start... not my thing but fair enough), then came to track 3 and thought... what on earth is this?

     

    I get what Williams wanted to do with including that track, but when removed from the context of the film I don't think it comes across well.

    Prologue and then Granny Wendy music would have been a nice start for the OST.:wub:

  8. 17 hours ago, Jay said:

    Recorded after the OST was locked:

    1. 1-03 Banning Back Home (Film Version) - the entire track

    2. 1-27 The Never-Feast (Film Version) - just the Insert

    3. 2-06 The Ultimate War (Film Version) - just the two Inserts
    4. 2-07 Death Of Rufio - just the first cue in the track
    5. 2-08 The Sword Fight And The End Of Hook - the entire track
    6. 2-10 Hook End Credits And Exit Music - just the final cue (Exit Music)
    7. 3-02 God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen - the entire track
    8. 3-20 Farewell Neverland (Short Version / Alternate) - just the Kensington Extension
    9. 3-21 Hook Exit Music (Alternate) - the entire track

    And is this also the stuff that Didier Deutsch didn't have access to years ago?

  9. In general, guessing is getting pretty easy. For LLL and others there's not much left to expand:

     

    From the 80s

    1. The Witches from Eastwick
    2. The Accidental Tourist
    3. Born on the Fourth of July

    From the 90s

    1. JFK
    2. Nixon
    3. Sleepers
    4. Seven Years in Tibet
    5. Stepmom
    6. Angela's Ashes

    From the 00s

    1. The Patriot
    2. Catch Me If You Can
    3. The Terminal

    That's it from his popular era.

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