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Yavar Moradi

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  1. @Brundlefly, I thought it was time for a new poll, given the new year and the release of U.S. Marshals (which was the 3rd place winner in my initial Varese in-perpetuity poll on FSM, over four years ago, with Small Soldiers and Air Force One -- also expanded since then -- in 1st and 2nd place, respectively). I decided to make it a bit more sophisticated, with a top 10 ranked choice system to really see what people's priorities were. I also added new info about the degree of unreleased music from these titles Varese controls, which might interest you and update your own info: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=140019&forumID=1&archive=0 And perhaps most excitingly of all, Spinmeister on FSM was inspired by my new thread/poll to produce new "Deluxe Edition" CD cover images for all the as-yet-incomplete Varese-controlled titles. I'll share them here, as they really let the mind soar with the possibilities, IMO! Just imagine getting some of these... Yavar
  2. I wonder if a new Deluxe Edition of The Ballad of Cable Hogue (not among my favorite Goldsmith western scores on disc, but in the film it is *wonderful* and perfect) might be produced some day, as it turns out the previous Varese Club release was incomplete (and missing one of the loveliest pieces of score). NOTE: Most Club titles Varese didn't get perpetuity rights on (see: LLL's ability to expand Magic) but Cable Hogue appears to be a rare exception as they are still selling a digital version on iTunes (which seems to be a good indicator of what they control). Quoting from Steven Lloyd on the FSM board (also including his comments about The Mephisto Waltz for the heck of it, even though not a western): https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=140019&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=2&r=844#bottom Have you had a chance to listen to any of those Goldsmith scores you had on hold, @Brundlefly? Also, you may be interested in this Gold Nugget episode of The Goldsmith Odyssey, if you haven't heard it yet. We go back through the last two years of Goldsmith releases (since the podcast started), discuss them and their merits, and play substantial samples: http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/3459226-gold-nugget-6-expanded-archival-collection Yavar
  3. There was a year or two where practically *every* Intrada release was $21.99 for a single disc, Thor...even stuff like a mostly-synth score, I remember. But then a year or two ago they switched back to $19.99 mostly, and now it seems like it depends on their specific costs for each project. The last year+ of releases from them have sometimes been $19.99 and sometimes $21.99. Yavar
  4. LLL was also planning major Waxman expansions (Sayonara and Spirit of St. Louis) until the Sony Music sub-licensing freeze (hopefully temporarily) cancelled those. Maybe you mixed up the Golden Age expansions they were working on? Either that or something to do with Demetrius and the Gladiators, the sequel to The Robe where Waxman composed the score and used multiple Newman themes from the first film. That's the biggest connection I can think of between the two composers. That and the fact that Waxman resigned from the Academy in protest over their failure to recognize Newman's great achievement with The Robe score... Yavar
  5. I don't think it's "moaning" to quote the album's own Townson liner notes as a helpful correction... Yavar
  6. You're forgetting that The Diary of Anne Frank was an Alfred Newman score, not a Franz Waxman score, for one. MV indicated it was still happening a few months ago, and there has been no indication since that that has changed. There *was* an indication re: Kamen's X-Men that it had been delayed thanks to Dark Phoenix or some other X-Men film coming out. Hopefully they got to it before the Disney-Fox purchase closed off their access to that. We should ask again in the FSM thread. Yavar
  7. Why not post this image as a reply to Varese? Yavar
  8. Oh gotcha. I read it as a different kind of “line”. Yavar
  9. It's shockingly discounted to only $5 on LLL right now (and with the 30% off sale, that's actually only $3.50!!) There's no reason not to buy this wonderful Walker score: https://lalalandrecords.com/turbulence-limited-edition/ Yavar
  10. Is there original music Williams recorded for the film that didn't get released on the LLL album? Yavar
  11. What "line" are you talking about? Doesn't seem to be something you quoted from MV in your reply to me...somehow I'm missing your point. I presume The River is going to be another Mattesino restoration; let's see if it has any Universal Heritage Collection language on it. I doubt it will. I also investigated further on Kapp (the U.S. label that released Two Mules for Sister Sara) -- in 2017 Intrada released The Hustler on CD, which was originally a Kapp LP: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.10730/.f Now The Hustler was a Fox film and not a Universal film. However, I think this is relevant to our discussion: on the back cover, there Is NO mention of "Universal Music Group" (which bought out Kapp, which was originally an independent label I'm pretty sure): Now, I think that clearly indicates that Kapp did not get perpetuity licenses (at least not usually), and that even though they were later bought by UMG, UMG does not necessarily (or even likely) control any rights to titles Kapp released, like The Hustler or Two Mules for Sister Sara. Which means that the rights to that score fully reverted (at least in the United States) back to Universal Pictures, which is why that expansion can happen in the Universal Heritage Series, despite not being a premiere like the other ten titles done so far. Again, I have no inside info. But this is the conclusion my sleuthing leads me to. Yavar
  12. Not “just like”, because the MCA releases of Sister Sara were all overseas. The U.S. album was on Kapp (unlike MCA a now *inactive* label which was indeed acquired by UMG): http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/21577/Two+Mules+For+Sister+Sara Again, my guess is that (at least domestically), Universal Music Group does not have perpetuity rights to this title, probably because of some sort of fine print. I have no inside knowledge on this but it’s my best guess given the evidence from the past two years that the TEN film scores all released in this Universal Heritage Series so far have all been free of the entanglement of album rights owned by Universal Music Group, a completely separate entity to Universal Pictures. Meanwhile a bunch of expansions of UMG owned albums have happened besides Far and Away and Darkman in the past two years — and Intrada has another one coming up soon (The River). None of them were branded as Universal Heritage Collection. Yavar
  13. Well look at the pattern so far, @Jay — it’s been going for two years now and all 10(!) titles have been premieres. Now I know that the long-promised Two Mules for Sister Sarah would be an expansion, because there was a previous album. But look again at what I wrote: “Premieres mostly, and Sister Sarah must not have entangling perpetuity album rights I presume.” I’m betting (I would literally put money on it) that a primary reason Far and Away and Darkman are not in the Universal Heritage Collection is because the original albums are owned by a separate record label, which would have its own say into packaging and branding and such on an expanded edition of *their* album. Yavar
  14. That’s because they are expansions of titles controlled by a different company (a record label). The Heritage Collection is only for titles Universal Picture controls outright, I think. Premieres mostly, and Sister Sarah must not have entangling perpetuity album rights I presume. Yavar
  15. agreed. Plus the final cue doesn’t cross fade into the pop song! Yavar
  16. I think the first 7 minutes of the score is 100x more interesting and diverse than the rest (not that the rest is bad). Jerry’s main title sequence was one of the greatest works of his entire career IMO. Yavar
  17. So you've only been experiencing Bandolero in the background of the game (cool as it is), but not straightforwardly as an album? Glad you like it, at least. It's a neat mix between lighthearted (the whistling, and usually the main theme) and dark/gritty (some of the action music and supporting thematic material). I really really like it. You really must give One Little Indian a chance, though. Edit out 2-3 instances of Lawrence of Arabia riffing, and you've got arguably the most purely enjoyable Goldsmith western score on album (good sound quality, no suspense/unpleasant tracks, just great themes and great action music). Ok, order of priority: 1. THE SWARM (trust me) 2. One Little Indian 3. The Great Train Robbery 4. Raggedy Man 5. Warning Shot (easily the least of these even though I love the Miss Alice track...do you have the new one paired with Archer?) Yavar
  18. you’re going to hear it again soon... just check out the sound sample of Track 9 on Intrada’s new Take Her, She’s Mine! http://www.intrada.com/sound/TAKe_09.m3u Yavar
  19. Re: Take Her, She's Mine -- It seems that a bit of the score remained unsalvageable, but we still have gotten more ("nearly all") than we ever expected: "There's only a handful of Goldsmith scores that have yet to be released in any form, and the music elements for this title were long thought damaged beyond use. But with advances in technology and the meticulous work of restoration expert Chris Malone, Intrada is able to present nearly all of Goldsmith's score in stereo. Malone had to restore the audio of each channel separately to get the wondrous results heard here. Rather than compromise the naturally wide instrumental spread, which was never intended for a stereo mix, Intrada also offers a mono presentation of the program as heard in the film." http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8430 Purchase page with lots of samples: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12179/.f?sc=13&category=22848 Re: Legends of the Fall -- many more alternates and such than expected! Quite a packed 2-CD set: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12172/.f?sc=13&category=22848 Yavar
  20. @Brundlefly how is your journey through Goldsmith's western scores going? Any new discoveries since you last posted here? Yavar
  21. ...and it's time for another *regular* Goldsmith Odyssey episode, at long last: http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/3370174-episode-25-the-legend-that-walks-like-a-man-general-electric-theater-1961 I really enjoyed this conversation, and I think it's nice to offer folks an Odyssey episode that's only an hour and a half long, after that epic interview most recently! Thanks to FSM reader George Gallant for sharing this rare TV episode with us and my friend Brad Wills for helping re-create the GE Theater logo in high quality. And of course, W. David Lichty (aka Lorien) for his expert editing. This is a really good podcast, with our conversation at the end being one of my very favorites. @karelm @Fancyarcher @Brundlefly @Display Name @TownerFan @Disco Stu @Mr. Breathmask @Faleel J.M. @El Jefe @Modest Expectations @Laserschwert @publicist @BrotherSound @Modest Expectations @Jay @Stefancos @Jurassic Shark let me know what you think! Yavar
  22. Note to @Brundlefly -- Morituri could be considered an expansion because it restores a minute of music which was micro-edited out of the FSM release due to too much wow/damage. Also Intrada is releasing a Goldsmith PREMIERE (Take Her, She's Mine) in an hour or two, which is pretty exciting since I don't know how many of these we have left: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ard10psremh5c72/Number 12.mp3?dl=0 EDIT: More samples here on the purchase page: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12179/.f?sc=13&category=22848 Goldsmith in Mancini mode! Lightweight bit of fluff, for sure, but fun and rather delightful. Jerry's second score for 20th Century Fox, considered lost and unsalvageable for over a decade and a half (read the Varese box liner notes). EDIT: It seems that a bit of the score remained unsalvageable, but we still have gotten more ("nearly all") than we ever expected: "There's only a handful of Goldsmith scores that have yet to be released in any form, and the music elements for this title were long thought damaged beyond use. But with advances in technology and the meticulous work of restoration expert Chris Malone, Intrada is able to present nearly all of Goldsmith's score in stereo. Malone had to restore the audio of each channel separately to get the wondrous results heard here. Rather than compromise the naturally wide instrumental spread, which was never intended for a stereo mix, Intrada also offers a mono presentation of the program as heard in the film." http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8430 Yavar
  23. I think it was actually Jerry’s *first* work for Fox! In the Varese Fox Box liner notes they claimed it was lost/unsalvageable. But maybe new tech and the magical Mattesino have managed to rescue it. It sounds pretty darn good for a 1963 score that was supposedly lost, IMO. Roger shared the Main Title from the new master on the Intrada board: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ard10psremh5c72/Number 12.mp3?dl=0 Jerry Goldsmith does a Henry Mancini comedy score! (Actually this was also Jerry’s first ever comedy feature score, and very different from the Joe Dante ones later in his career.) It’s a lightweight bit of fluff, certainly, but it’s still identifiably Jerry and an exciting find. Yavar
  24. I agree. But unlike you I really love a lot of the McNeely cues, where to me it sounds like he was channeling 70s Jerry. Of the supposedly “big four” Jerry 90s action scores (none of which were ever among my favorites), IMO: Chain Reaction > Executive Decision > > Air Force One > > > U.S. Marshals Varese’s DE of Chain Reaction is excellent, a real pleasant surprise to me. I found their Executive Decision a slight disappointment since I’d already heard an excellent SonicAdventure Remastered edition from the recording sessions which I still think is better (and it also features one important alternate version that Varese omitted from their edition). Now I eagerly await DEs of scores like Medicine Man, Love Field, Matinee, Mom and Dad Save the World, and of course THE OTHER. Yavar
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