Yavar Moradi

Haha! But apparently you're unaware of Joe Sikoryak's Dropbox containing all of the FSM covers in at least 600x600, and many of them in 1500x1500! https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114258&forumID=1&archive=0 Yavar

It’s quite lovely; and cool because Bernstein in the 50s and 60s wrote for the same kind of film being homaged. But his actual final score for the DeMille documentary on TV is also an impressive full-circle thing considering The Ten Commandments really jump-started his career after he was grey-listed and scoring stuff like Robot Monster and Cat Women of the Moon (wonderfully). https://www.tadlowmusic.com/2017/05/cecil-b-de-mille-american-epic-elmer-bernstein/ Here’s the doc itself: Yavar

I agree it's cool. And it was also cool a couple decades later when Elmer Bernstein got to do essentially the same thing with his own swan song(s) -- Far from Heaven and the DeMille documentary score. Yavar

I’m sure they will restock on the other two within the next few months. Yavar

On its fifth day out of the gate, this Kickstarter is already halfway to its goal of $50,000! (Technically, for The Man Who Knew Too Much to be included as well, the stretch goal takes it to $60,000.) Here's the link, for anyone here who wants in! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/on-dangerous-ground-the-man-who-knew-too-much-new-recordings Yavar

Her work on Loki was excellent. Why is it so impossible that her uses of Williams's theme could be decent? Yavar

Wow! As much as I personally adore Black Patch, I'm still surprised to see someone rate it above Star Trek: The Motion Picture! One thing they each have in common is a highly romantic central theme. I also rate Studs Lonigan extremely highly. You might want to revise your Goldsmith preference end date to "early 80s" since The Final Conflict is a favorite of yours. Yavar

Speaking just for myself, in terms of Phase 4 of the MCU I've actually preferred the Disney+ shows to the theatrical films, most of which have felt rushed in a bad way (and too much emphasis on effects/action sequences rather than character). Even the worst Disney+ show (The Falcon and the Winter Soldier) had some great ideas and character development among the annoying things. I liked Shang Chi a lot (though the third act much less than the first two), and I enjoyed Spiderman: No Way Home, but the other Phase 4 cinematic films have been disappointments, for me (including Doctor Strange 2, which I had a great deal of anticipation for). I'd much rather rewatch WandaVision, Loki, Moon Knight, or even Hawkeye before rewatching them. Yavar

Yeah I personally consider this one of Goldsmith’s very greatest scores (despite the performance problems) and I think it should be available forever. Maybe one day a new recording of the whole thing will happen? Yavar

I would be very surprised if it was. I think Varese was happy to sell out the full run within just a few months...but it still took several months! I think that told them that they gauged the demand for it almost perfectly. (Though I'd have been very happy for them to go 500 copies higher, so another 500 people could have this great release...then it probably would have taken another couple years to sell out.) And they don't do reissues (Encore Editions) any more. If you can find a copy for a remotely reasonable price, I would nab it! Yavar

If you haven’t gotten to “Duet” yet, brace yourself! Yavar

Recently finished my rewatch of Deep Space Nine. The last three seasons are by far the best, IMO (even though the best single episode of the series is "Duet" from the first season). Know what surprised me? I long considered DS9 my favorite Trek series and Voyager my least favorite, when they were airing. But my wife and I moved on to Voyager after DS9 and it is SO much better than I remembered, even in the early three pre-Seven of Nine seasons. Yes it has its problems but so does every Trek show. I highly recommend you revisit it after DS9. Yavar

Wow! First Wives Club is one of Shaiman’s very best works. Another Varese 90s title I’d assumed they held in perpetuity (and probably would never choose to expand), seeing LLL produce a new expanded edition is a very pleasant surprise! (I highly suggest checking out the sound clips when they’re up, if you aren’t familiar with the score already.) Yavar

Hey now it’s a generous minute and 22 seconds! I think it gets hype because it sounds like 70s Jerry and he wrote this in ‘92. Yavar

Great comparison of the various versions! Yeah I too want the original film recording really badly, so hopefully the issue can be cleared up some day. Intrada put a lot of work into it before they were forced to pull the plug; that I know. Personally I think the Ava recording is the most faithful in sound, overall (many though not all of the same players as the film recording). But I think my favorite is the 70s FMC one. It's more its own thing but I love it as a recording/performance. I'm not wild about the 90s one to be honest. It's not bad or anything but a clear last place for me. Yavar

It wasn’t Pakula

Vaguely. Intrada was all set to do it (they had a program and it was going to be in their Universal branded line at the time… maybe notes had even been written already?) And I think Roger shared that some producer’s estate put the kibosh on it, for whatever reason… 😢 So yeah who knows if we’ll ever get the Williams piano performance on album. Yavar

I mean if you're talking about the film score itself and not one of the three album recordings, it isn't non-Williams at all! That's him playing piano right away in the main title! Probably unlikely...Lukas gave some details at the time of how complicated that box was to make happen, and in the end though limited to 2000 copies it had to be put on sale multiple times to sell out. https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/cdID/366/ Yavar

I mean that was produced by Mike Mattesino so I think it's a wholly different situation and you've got nothing to worry about (except maybe cover art lol). Yavar

Well you can see it’s one disc, and yeah there’s some great stuff among the new music, making for a much more coherent building finale (plus that exciting “Mobilization” cue early on, of course). Check out the podcast episode to hear some of it! Yavar

Sorry to disappoint you Bruce! Oh so it didn't really matter to you how many discs it was, did it? Yavar

I figure if any episode of The Goldsmith Odyssey to date deserves its own new thread, it's this one. On the occasion of Intrada's excellent new complete release of Matinee, we reached out to not only the team at Intrada (Doug Fake, Roger Feigelson, and liner notes writer John Takis), but also two luminaries who worked directly with Jerry Goldsmith on many projects, including Matinee three decades ago: director Joe Dante and editor Marshall Harvey! This is a conversation for the ages, as the two of them play off each other delightfully in their fond remembrances of Jerry, with so many delightful anecdotes about Jerry working on this film and well as others they did together. There's also a great deal of fun to be had as Doug, Roger, and John (that's Wedge around these parts!) get in on interviewing these two at length, before moving on to speak about the new Intrada album itself. So strap yourselves in for one fun listen, and after you're done please chime in here with any reactions you care to share! https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10697106-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-matinee-1993-with-joe-dante-and-marshall-harvey (The most shocking revelation for me was shared by Joe Dante about a famous film star who was friends with Jerry Goldsmith, and attended the Matinee sessions in England!) Yavar

You need to see the film, Tom. It’s an utter delight and I promise it’ll make you love and appreciate the score even more. I don’t like to ask if they aren’t offered, because I’m happy to support the labels and be a part of these fine releases being financially successful. That said, Jose at Quartet was recently kind enough to offer to send me a free copy of the new Seconds, and I did not refuse him (he even covered the shipping cost to the States all the way from Spain!) To be honest I feel a little guilty now because we’ve substantially pushed the Seconds Spotlight recording (we were originally shooting for recording it almost a month ago, but we pushed it because the stars aligned to have Matinee director Joe Dante and editor Marhsall Harvey join us to talk about Matinee earlier this month, which we just published this morning: https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10697106-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-matinee-1993-with-joe-dante-and-marshall-harvey We are planning to record the Seconds Spotlight tomorrow night, now. Yavar

Actually yeah! If anyone is on the fence at all, instead of just blind buying the CD I highly recommend seeing the film to decide what you think of the score before buying. It’s a more subtle score than other Goldsmith work for Dante so I can understand why it’s more “under the radar” for folks or why publicist doesn’t love it. But I legitimately do. The old 38 minute album was always “just okay” to me I admit…perfectly nice but nothing that special. After seeing the film and listening to the complete score (which plays much stronger with the missing quarter hour of music) on album, it’s pretty special to me now. Not only do I not get paid, but I still have to purchase the Matinee album if I want a physical copy (which I always do of course). I legit like/love the things I praise, and I’m certainly far from alone in my love of Matinee. Extreme Prejudice I was never a big fan of, so I left that to two cohosts to make a Soundtrack Spotlight about. And same with Along Came a Spider. US Marshals I also didn’t fawn over when it got revisited, apart from that wonderful theme in “The Pen” and three other short cues, which should have been the main theme of the score… Yavar

I mean, I agree The ‘Burbs is magic; it’s easily my favorite score he wrote for Dante and I love the film too. But I just don’t agree with your assessment of Matinee and no amount of repeating you don’t like it in different ways is going to win me over. I think it’s absolutely perfect for the movie and something more creatively zany like The ‘Burbs would absolutely not have been appropriate or worked as well in this very different (much more sweet) film. Each of the themes for different characters in this movie (especially Goodman) are spot on in my opinion, and I love the diversity of the thematic material. Yavar