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Yes. At the point of "Welsh & Witt Talk", but most importantly, "Attack On The Bivouac"

There is some really beautiful atmospheric music that I adore in this expansion. Definitely not something I listen to from start to finish every day, but when I'm in the right mood for it, it is really fantastic. And I haven't even seen the film!

Managed to dig out the original 1986 CD recently, new edition is glorious 

I never said there's not much to enjoy here. When I got the disk I heard stuff like "Main Title" or "Jester Flying" four or five times in a row. But you can't deny that especially tracks 1-10 and 1-11 sound like a Karaoke track or a keyboard in auto-accompany mode. It's glaing obvious that somethings missing there and those are not complete pieces of music - and that's what's really irritating about this release. They go all the way to put everything that's in the movie on disk - I mean that's the whole point of Lalalands limited releases: to really put everthing on disk noone else but nerds like us are interested in. And then they drop the vocals. Either this is really a mistake or oversight, or there must be severe legal or licencing issues behind it. It is a great release nevertheless, but it leaves a bit of a strange taste.

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That's indeed one thing that struck me as extremely done already in the first film, because it seemed so natural and powerful without being an intrusive effect.

That, had they cast MENA actors, the same people would make the opposite criticism: "Look at how they hired MENA people only to put them in roles that ridicule Muslim religious fervour (Stilgar), demonise it (pretty much all the others), fetishize them and put a white saviour at their head."

Never understood the Dark Knight Rises hate.

Listened to the OST again and am really impressed! The development of the themes from the first score is top notch and I love how the Haderach/Messiah theme is used alongside the Arrakis/Dune A and the Dune Main theme. And the love theme is up there with Zimmer's most beautiful themes, the combination of the melody with the accompaniment motif played by the horn sounding instrument and the bell phrase in Kiss the Ring is amazing! I hope that a longer album or a Sketchbook album is planned because the sonic world of these scores is so rich and deserves more album releases!
 
I'm really looking forward to hearing A Quiet Time Between Storms live at the new WOHZ concert later this spring. I think it will be a slightly more orchestral arrangement which could be a nice alternate!

Postman delivered yesterday.

Taking my stab at DUNE
 

 

 

Just saw the movie again and was just as impressed as the first time! The movie is a masterpiece! I also appreciate the score much more on second viewing, having listened to the OST, as the thematic development is so satisfying to hear unfold! The big scene which happens after Paul Arrives in the South remains super intense and everything that follows is just pure cinema!
 
I hope we get a Sketchbook release for Part 2 as there is probably a lot of unused stuff lying around!

I loved what they did with Jessica in the film.
 
 

I personally always enjoy when an orchestra is pushed to its limits. Overwhelming action is definitely my favorite, as long as it's actual crafted chaos with every part of the orchestra being represented, and not just say... loud, overworked strings, brass, and percussion with ugly, loud synths. 
 
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I'm quite pleased with how spectacularly Dune is doing, critically and commercially! Not just because I like the film (and the first one), and want to see more, but it's incredibly gratifying to see a cerebral, expertly crafted science fiction film doing so well. Especially one that makes intelligent use of CGI, made by people who seem to have passion and care about what they're doing. This isn't assembly-line filmmaking, and it's nice to see a genre film that doesn't involve Superheroes and people getting slammed into walls at the top of the box office.
 
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one. Hopefully this bodes well for the future, not just for Dune but for cinema in general.

Did all the creatures escaping remind anyone else of Jurassic park? 

Just got out of the theater. What a trip. Honestly this is the kind of film I’ve been waiting for. Sci-fi on an epic scale that actually has deep, meaningful messages and thoughts. The novel of Dune has some excellent philosophy on the dangers of messiahs and Denis chose to focus on that aspect. As opposed to following the book one-for-one he took the plot of the novel and developed it to follow this message. Messianic figures can sway the way of history. It’s been proven time and time again in our own world and the message is just as important now as it was when Herbert first wrote the novel. These figures are powerful and with that power comes consequences.
 
The film itself as a movie experience goes was miles ahead of Part One. Way more action, a solid three-act structure, better characters, more intrigue, and overall a more engaging narrative. There was also a lot of much needed levity. The humor mostly came from Javier Bardem as Stilgar (My personal favorite character) and while it wasn’t overplayed (As it would be in a Marvel film) it definitely brought a balance to the darkness of the picture. This is a dark and depressing film. The ending is not happy and overall I would call the film a tragedy. There is an unavoidable outcome and it’s painful to see it slowly unfold. Another thing improved over the first film are the villains. I liked what they did with Raban and Austin Butler’s new character Feyd Rautha was a scene stealer. Rebecca Ferguson’s Jessica became way more interesting this time around as well as Paul himself. Chalamet steps up to the plate as a messianic hero. Zendaya’s character Chani after getting built up so much in the last movie actually turned out to be a great addition. She’s kind and gentle but also extremely badass and independent when need be. The special effects and sound design are out of this world as expected and Greg Fraser continues to prove he’s one of the best working cinematographers right now. Every frame could be a wall paper.
 
The music I loved. I loved the score in the first one and I love the score even more here. It works absolute magic in the film and my favorite cue, “Southern Messiah,” ended up playing in the most perfect way possible. Lots of unreleased cues and the new motif that I thought was for the emperor turns out to be for something much more sinister; the Kwisatz Haderach.
 
I heard there were a few major changes from the book so I went in expecting this. However every single change I think benefited this version of the Dune story. I personally loved that Denis adapted this work for the modern times by making Chani not so one-note and really delving into the dangers of Paul and what he means. Compare this film to Lynch’s where Paul is akin to Luke Skywalker. Here Paul is portrayed for what he is. My favorite kind of storytelling is that of fallen heroes. Death Note, Attack on Titan, and Breaking Bad are excellent examples of this. We haven’t had a great epic film to portray this sort of tale on a massive scale since the Godfather films. Now Dune has brought it back. I think it’s truly important for audiences to see that “heroic” characters are not always heroic to all sides and that there are consequences to radical belief. So I’m so glad we have films like this that show the two sides of the coin (Or rather that there are no sides). The Reverend Mother says so herself. Oh and there is one big change to a certain character from the book but I think it was for the best. It would’ve been unfilmable in my opinion.
 
This movie cements both parts of Dune as all-time great sci-fi films and also as a whole with both movies combined I would say this becomes an all-time epic in general. I don’t think Denis could’ve done a better job with this and this is definitely his magnum opus. Dune: Messiah will be very interesting because the ending of this film leaves one major plot thread in a different place than the books. This plot thread is literally the driving force of Dune Messiah so I honestly don’t know how they would even adapt the book without completely changing the plot. I think what Denis did with the change was better than the book’s ending but Dune Messiah hinges on this thing that Denis changed. Who knows. For now we have two films that are for sci-fi what Lord of the Rings was for fantasy.
 
My favorite part of the film was actually just a line:
 

Did all the creatures escaping remind anyone else of Jurassic park? 

Did all the creatures escaping remind anyone else of Jurassic park? 

I thought Elfman's JL score was very underrated. Sure, it may be him on his autopilot action score (kinda like Age of Ultron), but I still think it was pretty decent. Nice themes, fun action and even some emotional moments.

It's not just the mastering that needs to be changed for a future release.  There's also cues missing, plus MANY alternates, plus LOTS of source music. 
 
There's a few cues in that score where the Deluxe Edition has an alternate instead of the version in the film.

I also have seen The Empire Strikes Back 😁

I also have seen The Empire Strikes Back 😁

I also have seen The Empire Strikes Back 😁

I also have seen The Empire Strikes Back 😁

I also have seen The Empire Strikes Back 😁