[The Official James Horner Thread]

The end credits of Hacksaw Ridge have Horner’s name  “in memoriam”.  Not sure about Great Wall though.  

[Soundtrack in Dolby Atmos on Apple Music]

Buyer beware, though. Older titles are less likely to be true surround mixes, but rather fake stereo-to-surround upmixes. 

All those titles above are contemporary, so those should all be legit (like Avatar The Way of Water is), however an older title like Braveheart is a fake surround upmix. 

[The Official James Horner Thread]

9 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Anybody likes this album?

 

 

Eww. Not at all. 

[Star Trek: Picard (2020 TV Series)]

4 hours ago, leeallen01 said:

As I didn't make it past episode 3, is Janeway in any of this season?

 

Spoiler

No, but another Voyager cast member is. 

 

That cast member is: 

 

Spoiler

Tim Russ (Tuvok)

 

[GNP Crescendo announces Star Trek First Contact Complete.]

3 hours ago, Andy said:

If anyone gets a chance to post a clip, I’m curious which is the offending motif. 

 

 

 

play it at time code 1:07. 
 

 

Also:

 

 

 

18 seconds into this one 

 

Then:

 

 

play at 3:51 and also 5:10 

 

 

Now, it’s not as bad in Insurrection but in US Marshals it’s basically the main theme and holy shite…I mean it’s kind of fun when you hear that over Tommy Lee Jones unmasking himself in a chicken costume, but by the time you get to the big chase sequence on a subway train the score is so loud and in the audience’s faces it’s just ridiculous, and not in a fun over the top ridiculous way, but a “hey turn that down it’s too loud” kind of way. 

[GNP Crescendo announces Star Trek First Contact Complete.]

The one and only "complaint" I have about the Insurrection albums are that neither of them have the softer fade out for the end of "New Sight" as heard in the film. For many years I've tried but never nailed to achieve that in editing. It's such a beautiful cue and then that harsh brass interruption (not heard in the film when the Son'a ships arrive over the planet.)

 

Whenever I listen to the album I immediately reach for the volume when I know it's coming. 

[GNP Crescendo announces Star Trek First Contact Complete.]

I despise that brass idea in US Marshals. It’s beyond obnoxious in that score compared to Insurrection.

 

The score in Marshals is so overbearingly mixed. Takes me out of the movie. 

[Avatar 2, 3 and 4 or how James Cameron stopped worrying and pulled The Hobbit on us]

https://ew.com/movies/avatar-the-way-of-water-digital-release/

This details all of the bonus features. 

[Ludwig Göransson & Joseph Shirley's THE MANDALORIAN (2019-present)]

The end title sounded 100% verbatim to the standard one they've used. They've only deviated from it a couple of times and in those cases it was the orchestra-only version for season 1 episode 7 (same as the one Goransson conducted at the season 2 premiere livestream with the socially-distanced musicians) and the strings-only version in the season 2 finale. 

 

 

[Star Trek: Picard (2020 TV Series)]

I think the reveal of who was responsible for both issues taking place also explains Riker behaving the way he did.

[Star Trek: Picard (2020 TV Series)]

The opening sequence of this third episode was filled with Horner’s danger motif!

[Star Trek: Picard (2020 TV Series)]

The score for this episode was all over the place, but enjoyable as it was like taking Eidelman, Horner and Goldsmith and throwing them all into a blender. Eidelman brass and snare here, Horner woodwinds and strings there, Goldsmith rhythms and punctuations taken from TMP...it's a Star Trek Music Melting Pot. 

The episode itself, on the surface it's as though they retained some of the edge of seasons 1 and 2 (which are both trainwrecks) but remembered that these characters were from another time in Trek history and finally gave them some respect and enthusiasm. It's a step up for sure. 

[Titanic - 2023 theatrical re-release (HFR & 3D)]

5 hours ago, May the Force be with You said:

I went to theater to see it and it's still incredible. The 4K remaster is impressive however the 3D is such a shame, it brings nothing but poor greyish colour

I think that's an issue with the theater's projection itself. 

I saw it yesterday afternoon and the colors were exactly as I'd expect - it looks like a 4K upgrade to the Blu-ray in terms of its colors....which unfortunately means it's got the same yellowish tint. 

The Blu-ray from 2012 has the standard 2D in Cinemascope, and the 3D in open-matte. Both look the same in terms of their revised color timing change, but no 'poor greyish' color you speak of. 
 

I chose the IMAX screening expecting it to be the same open-matte aspect ratio as the 2012 IMAX release / Blu-ray 3D version. To my surprise it was the CinemaScope version on an IMAX screen. That's not a film issue, but a theater issue. 

 

It boasts a crystal clear image without a hint of grain, but every intricate detail, every bead of sweat, Billy Zane's glued-on hairline, all razor sharp. The effects shots are obviously (and understandably) softer, but not dramatically so. 

 

It was not a HFR presentation so I can't comment on that. 

 

IMAX doesn't have Atmos / DTS-X so it was the standard 5.1 audio.

[The Official Intrada Thread]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

And with important soundtracks by that popular triumvirate of John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith and James Homer plus important work by Danny Elfman, John Barry, James Newton Howard, Hans Zimmer, Marco Beltrami and several others all in production, we have a really busy pipeline ahead, one of the most exciting that I can recall!

 

 

[Simon Franglen's AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER (2022)]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

When I was watching Avatar again the other weekend, I did notice some similarities in the score to the Living In The Age Of Airplanes score (which I love and have listened to many more times than Avatar).  Makes sense it was the same vocalist!

 Graham Foote (and his ensemble) did the vocals for "Living in The Age of Airplanes", and then the "Pandora" attraction music, but he did NOT work on Horner's Avatar score in 2009. 

The vocalists who carried over from the 2009 Horner score are Clydene Jackson, Terry Wood (you see them in the behind-the-scenes material on the Blu-ray) along with Carmen Twillie and Lisbeth Scott (Scott also performed on Amazing Spider-Man as well)

 

 

[Titanic - 2023 theatrical re-release (HFR & 3D)]

[Titanic - 2023 theatrical re-release (HFR & 3D)]

On 13/01/2023 at 8:17 AM, Sweeping Strings said:

Does the 3D mean you'll duck when the iceberg appears, and reach out in hope in Kate's topless scenes?  

 

No but because of the open matte you see her entire rear end (and a bit of the carpet) as it's no longer cropped out of the cinemascope framing. 

[Any other film scores that work the verse melody of a tie-in song into the score, instead of the chorus melody?]

The curious thing about the few times Arnold referenced the “Tomorrow Never Dies” chorus in the score, (and indeed it’s the grand finale of the cue “All in a Day’s Work”) is that it’s really a motif Arnold made for two other scores he did: 

 

He first used it in his debut score “The Young Americans” although the cue that featured it is in the film and not on the short soundtrack album. 

 

 The most obvious use of it was for the First Lady in INDEPENDENCE DAY as the motif for when she is found in the helicopter wreckage and later on when President Whitaker and his daughter say goodbye to her when she dies. 
 

 

it comes at the end of this cue. 

 

 

and it is throughout this cue. 

[Titanic - 2023 theatrical re-release (HFR & 3D)]

Yeah it was done for the 100th anniversary of the actual event, and released April 2012 theatrically. It hit Blu-ray in September of 2012 with the open-matte 3D conversion spreading two discs, the remastered Cinemascope on a single disc, and a fourth disc of bonus features. 

 

To date the Blu-ray (both 3D and 2D transfers) are still razor-sharp and stunning (as in they still hold up in the decade since). It's the revisionist color changes that taint it. 

[Avatar 2, 3 and 4 or how James Cameron stopped worrying and pulled The Hobbit on us]

Sir I’m gonna have to ask you to get allllllll the way off my back about it. 
 

Yeah you better get off of that thing. 

[David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)]

He's said on several occasions that he only wants to work with people he likes and can spend genuinely good time with. 

[James Horner’s HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS - 2022 La-La Land Records expanded edition]

With Faith Hill doing what amounts to a Mariah Carey impression for the song, it’s probably not a vastly different take. 

[James Horner's Avatar]

On 23/12/2022 at 6:20 PM, Not Mr. Big said:

Orchestra fees?

Yeah that's got to be a given. 

[Simon Franglen's AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER (2022)]

54 minutes ago, Mr. Who said:

 

Thanks! It plays during the swimming scene right in the bioluminescent river?

Which in the film was a total mashup of several cues, yes.

For those going on about Titanic and its merits or lack of depending on where one stands, I just wanted to point out that it is now December 19. Titanic was released 25 years ago today. 

[Simon Franglen's AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER (2022)]

13 hours ago, Mr. Who said:

A small Horner callback that I noticed in Cove of the Ancestors which plays at 1:46 (before the I See You (avatar theme) melody comes in). It's a secondary idea from a cue in Avatar 1 but I can't remember which cue it appears in. Franglen starts out using it like Horner does first (in minor) but then switches over to major. Does anyone know in which track it appears in Avatar 1?

It's similar to (from the OST) material in 'Becoming one of "The People", Becoming one with Neytiri', with a bit of piano not only in that cue (near the end) but also in 'The Bioluminescence of The Night' and the end of this Ancestors cue has another small (instrumentation over melody) bit of 'Pure Spirits of the Forest'.