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    James Horner’s HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS - 2022 La-La Land Records expanded edition

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    Mine was not cracked. 

     

    I wrote this on the corresponding FSM thread:

     

    https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=149583&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=593#bottom

    There are so many subtle (and not so subtle) differences that the old promo is truly its own thing and this new release stands firmly on its own.

    A ton of 'blink and you'll miss it' type differences one might not pick up on unless they know the score inside and out....which being a Horner score is kind of my thing. I'm really surprised by how unique this is.

    I like the off-kilter back cover as well. I found the Taylor Momsen interview referenced in the liner notes (no source, but Google was easy enough.)

    It was nice to hear she mentioned Horner by name and not just 'the composer'.

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    James Horner’s HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS - 2022 La-La Land Records expanded edition

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    The OST was abysmal. 

    Set aside the dialogue intrusion and the mess of songs, the (few) score cues there were, weren't the best sounding because they likely had to try and boost them to match the songs. It was just all-around bad. 

    The promo was a revelation in comparison. To have even that just be made legit would be great. 

     

    Christmas comes early!

    David Arnold's STARGATE (1994) - 2019 2CD La-la Land Records edition

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    On 18/10/2022 at 10:39 AM, Jay said:

     

     

    I ended up watching the Extended Cut, which overall I found to be a better film than the Theatrical cut.  The one downside, though, is that it’s extremely clear that Arnold never scored any of the footage they put back in (other than the opening Abduction scene), which is to be expected.... however the problem is that whoever was in charge of adding music to the new scenes did a very bad job!  Often the tone of the music put in didn’t really match the tone of the scene, but much worse is that some of the edits are super noticeable and jarring, not smooth at all.  There was one time where a cue was artificially ended so abruptly and obviously I wondered how it ever passed whatever quality control they had when making this cut… 

     

    So long story short, if you want to watch the film solely to appreciate the score, watch the theatrical cut; If you want a more developed story with more character development, watch the Extended Cut - but just be prepared to be annoyed by bad music edits in some of the additional scenes :lol: 

     


    Independence Day is exactly the same in terms of its bad editing of the score for the added scenes. 

    Unlike Stargate, the theatrical of iD4 is the (far) better version, though some scenes in the extended are interesting enough. The problem is the audio mix for them is essentially mono and likely temp. The two worst examples of the music not flowing with the film are: 

    1. The short added scene during the "Welcome Wagon" sequence where David and his father Julius are in the Oval Office. Julius is mesmerized by simply being there, which prompts David to joke that "imagine a poor immigrant like me. It's a dream!"

    The scene not only breaks the tension too much, but literally breaks the sequence (and music) in two - it's dropped in there with no style or effort whatsoever. 

     

    2. in the height of the end battle sequence, after the brief moment of levity with Julius gathering people to pray and Nimziki saying he's not Jewish ("nobody's perfect" Julius remarks. Unlike the added Oval Office scene this light tension breaker works well here - and it's theatrical) another scene is just dropped in without any effort put into it: This whole unnecessary subplot of the Casse children / daughter bonding with another kid (the curly-haired kid from "My So Called Life") was added to this extended cut, and culminates in a lame payoff of an earlier joke of the daughter not wanting to die a virgin. Very low in the audio mix you can hear the faintest bit of "Master Alarm" from Horner's APOLLO 13 in there, clearly temp score (as Arnold mentioned in the LLL album liner notes). 

     

    I adore Independence Day. All these years later it's still one of my dearest favorite movies (and favorite score) but man...the extended cut isn't worth a watch more than once. 

     

     

    As for that abrupt cut in the Stargate music, I think I know which scene you mean: 

    The 'Slave Rebellion' sequence was extended with a sandstorm and the music cuts were just piss-poor. Just awful.
     

    Avatar 2, 3 and 4 or how James Cameron stopped worrying and pulled The Hobbit on us

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    1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

    The scene is dull indeed. They should've chosen something more "showy", like they swimming, fighting, etc.

     

    They did - for swimming. 

    Depending on the location / FORMAT of the film, you get either that scene in the Google Drive link, or you get a scene of the new kid characters (and I believe Kate Winslet's character...EDIT not it's not - the one I thought was her is in this Google clip while Winslet is the pregnant one. The similar faces threw me off) swimming where it shows off the underwater effects. It's a very light, peaceful scene with a taste of Simon Franglen's score that sounds firmly in line with the "Pandora" Disneyworld album. 

     

    I saw it in IMAX 3D (no HFR) and that swimming scene is what I got. 

    Avatar 2, 3 and 4 or how James Cameron stopped worrying and pulled The Hobbit on us

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    ^^ Very true statements. 

    James Horner also said at the time of release, that he needed to pull the music back from being avant garde and too 'alien' to what the final result was, because audiences will tolerate unconventional visuals, but not unconventional music for a big film like that, so it had to be grounded in something more palatable. 

    The "(Fill in the Blank) Has Died" Thread

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    1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said:

     

    I couldn't stand Air Force One (and it being directed by a German takes second place in the irony ratings just after Randy Newman being asked to score it).

     

     

    Independence Day was directed by a German who co-wrote it with a Filipino-American. German cinematographer, German VFX supervisor, English composer. 

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