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  1. Prior to the 2009 album, the only way to hear some of the OST cues without that 3D surround crap (called "B.A.S.E.") was to get an album called "Star Trek: The Astral Symphony"

    https://www.discogs.com/Various-Star-Trek-The-Astral-Symphony/release/1057838
     

    The reason I called it faux 3D surround is because the sound is what you get if you had old computer speakers or an old stereo / headphones with that 3D surround button / feature you could turn on and off. It made stereo music sound 'wider' by diffusing it to such a degree it was almost mono. Combine that with the shrill Dan Wallin recording and you get that GNP album's sound. So abrasive a listen. 
     

  2. On 7/29/2021 at 1:15 AM, Henry Sítrónu said:

    interesting! I have no idea though how that works. Are you sure? I'm wondering why you can hear the click track. 

     

    Dead sure, because I made a "center channel album" and shared that years ago. I know my own 'work' lack of a better term. 

    I'll even DM you the rest of it. 

    I took the 5.1 DTS CD, and then years after that the 5.1 SACD, and broke it down to its individual channels. The way the score was mixed, there are no electronics (save for the chimes) in the center channel of the mix, and therefore no synth choir. As the center is obviously mono, I added reverb to make it faux-stereo. The reason for the click track is because it's a cue that relied so heavily on the synth choir. Not something to just go free-time the way Horner preferred to record his music with the orchestra. 

    Another fun side effect of the way it was mixed, is that the choir was not mixed for surround. It was just mixed for stereo and was 'copied' to the rear channels of the mix. It's slightly out of sync in the rear channels so if you mix them down, cues like "Leaving Port" sound out of phase / hollow but if you carefully correct the sync, you can eliminate the choir almost entirely. 

  3. 4 hours ago, blondheim said:

    Hard to Starboard is one of Horner's greatest tracks. You'll hear no argument from me. I love both. Horner was great

     

    I found it better as Al Bathra. Easily my favorite Horner action cue. 

     

    The Titanic trailer used a combination of that and Monfriez's Suicide. That had to be intentional since the film paralleled that music. 

  4. 18 hours ago, Chen G. said:

    Horner even upped his game and swapped his usual "danger" ostinato for a two-note brass figure that serves much the same purpose. It would return in Titanic (where its often called the "iceberg motive").


    It’s interesting, because it actually started the year before that in Courage Under Fire with three notes and expanded it into its own theme. (The cue “Night Mutiny” is a good standalone version of the idea but it’s in others as well) It served as a sort of darker tension kind of device. Titanic narrowed it to two notes.

  5. 3 hours ago, His Royal Noelness said:

     

    It wouldn't surprise me if Horner was influenced by the song (consciously or otherwise) but I agree, it is just a little thing but it's always something that I think about any time I hear Braveheart. 

     

    It's a bit like Leaving of Liverpool in Titanic. 

     

    Leaving of Liverpool was a good reference. Not only for a good melody, but for Titanic itself given its history. 

    2 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

    Bumping a Braveheart post is like sending up the bat signal for @Chen G..

     

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    Oh, bumping Braveheart posts are TIGHT!

     

     

    I don't even think it matters what anyone's favorite Horner from 1995 was, because it was such a great year for his music all around ya can't go wrong.  (I actually do enjoy JADE a lot. It's not my favorite of that year, but I enjoy the whole thing. Much of it is found in Braveheart anyway!)

  6. and some scores are numbered M1, M82, M116, etc. 

    If there's any rhyme or reason to changing them up so it's either 9M1, or R9P1, or M90-whatever, I don't know what it is. 

     

    Then there's a rare one like Titanic, which just uses scene numbers: 

    Sc034-R Southampton (Revised)
    Sc273-R A Promise Kept (2nd Part Revised)

  7. And then there's things like 4M4R, R for "Revised", or 6M1A, like "Alternate", meaning the cue was changed in some fashion or totally re-written to accommodate a change in the scene's musical needs, or 2M7s, the S usually for a song / source cue. 

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