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I know it’s mentioned a lot, but I’m not sure we really recognise how incredible it is that this music was written and mostly conducted by a 90 year old man. Most people his age are either dead or not eating solid foods. I know we have some legitimate complaints about the album presentation, use of older themes etc, but how many other 90 year olds are active and working, let alone writing a cue like “To Athens”. It is an astonishing achievement whatever you think of the soundtrack. Just listen to the orchestrations in “Tuk Tuk to Tangiers”. A man who statistically should be dead sat down at his piano and came up with that. I remember back in 2015 when we all freaked out because he’d pulled out of writing music for Bridge of Spies and 8 years later he’s conducting at the premiere of the 5th Indiana Jones movie. Blessed we be.

Well, very unoriginal music. In each track you can briefly hear something that Williams composed years before, or just a year ago (Obi-Wan Theme). Kinda disappointing score. JW must have been proud of his creation called Helena's Theme. That's absolutely legit. It's the highlight of the soundtrack...but why is it heard in the first track, when we then hear it in the second in full version? 

Battle of Hoth is also compromised of several smaller cues.
 
Yes, TLJ opening was butchered in the movie, but are you seriously not hearing any dramatic arc in the OST track? 
 
I do agree that the ST seems to have smaller musical cells but damn some parts in TLJ, like this one, are an exception to that.
 
Also Way of The Force/Scherzo for X-Wings (FYC version, in the movie!), just to name an example. Coherent arc that goes on for minutes, even in a JJ Abrams movie. It is possible.

Battle of Hoth is also compromised of several smaller cues.
 
Yes, TLJ opening was butchered in the movie, but are you seriously not hearing any dramatic arc in the OST track? 
 
I do agree that the ST seems to have smaller musical cells but damn some parts in TLJ, like this one, are an exception to that.
 
Also Way of The Force/Scherzo for X-Wings (FYC version, in the movie!), just to name an example. Coherent arc that goes on for minutes, even in a JJ Abrams movie. It is possible.

Now that we have less than 50 hours to release, I do just want to take a moment to say how much fun it has been to be a part of this community for the last few years. The possibility of new Star Wars movies scored by John Williams back in 2012 is what got me to lurking on this board and watch to see members speculate if he'd come back. The actual hype up to TFA and the actual score is what caused me to create an account. The last decade has allowed me to geek out with people about film score events in a way that I had always wanted but felt like I had missed out on. Part of me still can't believe we got another trilogy of Star Wars scores and an Indy 5 score alongside more Spielberg scores. Whether or not you like the movie, I hope you all find something to like in the new score. This little recess of the Internet has consistently been a fun little space to geek out on these things, and I've very grateful for it. This is truly the end of an era, and I'm happy to be here for it.

From 4:09 onwards is a question about Williams. Mangold gives a wonderfully exapansive answer. I really can't wait to see and of course hear that opening sequence.
 
 
 

Wow, it sounds gorgeous.

Wow, it sounds gorgeous.

Wow, it sounds gorgeous.

Battle of Hoth is also compromised of several smaller cues.
 
Yes, TLJ opening was butchered in the movie, but are you seriously not hearing any dramatic arc in the OST track? 
 
I do agree that the ST seems to have smaller musical cells but damn some parts in TLJ, like this one, are an exception to that.
 
Also Way of The Force/Scherzo for X-Wings (FYC version, in the movie!), just to name an example. Coherent arc that goes on for minutes, even in a JJ Abrams movie. It is possible.

Also that bit in the new featurette was like 100% Tintin. Whatever, it sounded great. I honestly prefer a new take on a distinct idea from another score rather than ‘meandering-along’ action music without much identity. And like others have said, the non-action moments will probably feature  the more profound musical moments anyway.

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Love how Helena's Theme is picked up on here...
 

Reading through the media reviews on RT over the last week, I don't think there has been a film in at least the last 20 years (maybe even since Schindler's List) where the the score is mentioned so frequently and so positively by the reviewers--regardless of whether they like or even hate the film.  It is nice to see JW getting the credit he deserves.  

An estimated 0.05% of the audience of this film follows "Williams scoring to too many sync points, leaving the coherence of his action music falling by the wayside"

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy. 

He said the same thing about Fabelmans if I remember correctly. I’ve seen several videos by him, and his personality is awful and smug. Always trying to sound smart, but failing miserably because he only believes in arthouse films.

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy. 

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy. 

Oh sure, I figured you weren’t endorsing it. I always just chuckle at how easy it is to identify those vids by the thumbnail

Keep in mind, I posted it just to show how stupid he is.  

On principle, I never watch YouTube videos where the thumbnail has the youtuber making some stupid ass face like that. That’s how you identify people who just make contrarian opinions for clicks, and they shouldn’t be rewarded. It hasn’t steered me wrong thus far. 

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy. 

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy. 

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy. 

I don't even want to watch this full review (he didn't watch any other indy film than Raiders) but screw what he says about the score. It's the typical thing an unmusical person who wants to hate the movie beforehand would say about the score. 'John Williams score is... whatever'. And then ranting about his Oscar nominations. Shut up, the Sequel Trilogy brought me 5 years of joy.