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Chen G.

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  1. 1 hour ago, jpmatlack said:

    I highly recommend you watch one of the superb fan edits of the Hobbit. Never go back to the disaster of the trilogy…

     

    I love the movies as-is. At worst, I may fast-forward through a grand total of some three-four minutes' worth of little beats that I don't care for.

     

    At any rate, I'm not a fan of fan-edits: I feel like they're more an outlet for budding editors than anything else, and I think there's only so much you can do without extensive access to alternate takes and trims. For instance, even though I think The Rings of Power needed to lose some storylines and to get to the point A LOT sooner, I would either watch it as-is or not at all, rather than watch someone's edit of it.

  2. 1 minute ago, AC1 said:

    Few legenday directors have made their best movies at the end of their career.

     

    I can think of very few artists in general who's ouvre is marked by a general upward trend. Some of us feel Hitchcock made some of his best work later in life. Some musicians, perhaps, like Beethoven and Wagner. But otherwise? Scarce few.

  3. 13 hours ago, WampaRat said:

    Wasn’t it’s flopping partly responsible for him taking Lucas up on the project? To prove he could make a film under budget and on time?

     

    I think there's a different point to be made here which is that - beyond budget and time issues - artistically sometimes (not always) filmmakers are at their best when they feel like they have something to prove.

  4. 12 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

    Agreed, Chen. In my comments, I meant no disrespect to the subject matter, and that is why I cited the other works. I am, merely, criticising the film as a piece of entertainment.

    I'm sure that if the film was about the diabolical treatment of the English through the centuries, I would not see it as a film, either. Perhaps not being Jewish allows me to maintain a certain emotional distance. Like I said: I do admire it; I just don't like it.

     

    By all means, do disrespect the subject matter! ...Okay, may don't, but what I mean by that is that Schindler's List and films like it shouldn't be impervious to criticism for fear of making one seem as "disrespecting the subject matter." There are things to critique in Schindler's List: the hokum of the Schindler's last moments in the film is often cited and not injustly (even if the issue is blown out of proportion, I would say).

     

    But yeah, its just a very different experience perhaps not necessarily to Jews but specifically to Israeli Jews: The Holocaust is a big thing here, and we're fed it in school, we're fed it in Holocaust memorial day, we're fed it in the IDF, some of us are fed it in our families, and so films like Schindler's List and like The Pianist sort of become...like a ceremony.

  5. 10 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

    SCHINDLER'S LIST, on the other hand, is oh-so-obvious Oscar™ bait. It wants to be liked, it wants to be admired, it wants you to say "Oh, those poor, poor people. How could anything like that happen?". It wants you to cry over a little girl in a red coat, and you oblige, all-too willingly.

     

    I think Spielberg has made some very overt Oscar bait in the years since Schindler's List, but I never experienced that movie as particularly Oscar-bait-y.

     

    What I do experience it as is like a state memorial ceremony. I think most Israelis do. Its impossible for us to see it as a film, I'm afraid. I watched it once at school, once again to say I did it as an adult - I never want to subject myself to it ever again.

  6. Ready Player One surprised me. Like, I avoided it for a long time for thinking it looks absolutely godawful: it had this look of this totally over-the-top, overwhelming, Michael Bay-like visual chaos and cloying nostalgia.

     

    It wasn't ultimately a very succesfull film, but that aspect of it was ultimately reined-in by Spielberg. Middling for me, but not bad, particularly.

  7. I really don't think Spielberg was disinterested or dispassionate on the set of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Its inarguable that he was reticent to make it for a long time - and very, very rightly so - but its the sort of thing where once you're on the set, you don't necessarily carry that initial apprehension with you.

     

    But yeah, for a variety of reasons - most of which, I would argue, are on the page, but not all - the film ended-up uninspired, rather slow, not very appealing to the eye and hokey. It was, in some respects, a doomed enterprise.

     

    Spielberg had other less-than-reputable films. Always springs to mind. But I haven't watched a Spielberg film in a loooong time (well, The Last Crusade doesn't count: I can watch that for forever) so I can't really make a list off the top of my head.

     

    My "issue" with Schindler's List is, I think, known to all here, and needs no repeating.

  8. 45 minutes ago, Score said:

    It's clear from what he says that he actually has put thought into the kind of thematic connections that detractors are accusing him of having ignored.

     

    There are definitely connections between the themes, but they're still individual units, and their relationship with each other is (at least musically) very static.

     

    Totally different from the mature leitmotif. Its Bear's Der Fliegende Hollander to Shore's Siegfried.

  9. That's what I'm saying, if we count how many players were used alltogether (or rather, how many people it'll take to faithfully recreate the recording ensemble across all the scores on the concert stage) its something like:

     

    16 1st

    16 2nd

    12 Violas

    10 Celli

    8 Basses
    2 Harps

    8 Horns (d. Tuben)

    8 Trumpets

    7 Trombones

    2 Tuba

    3 Bassoons/contrabassoon

    4 Clarinets/Bass/contrabass Clarinet

    4 Flutes/Piccolo/alto flute

    4 Oboes/Cor/heckelphone
    3 Keyboard (piano/celesta/clavichord, synth, organ)

    2 Timpanists
    7 Percussionists
    20 Didgeridoos
    14 Gamelan
    12 Stage band (cimbalom, rhaita, bagpipes, hardinfelle, nay, etc)
    100 SATB
    60 Boys

    That's A LOT of people! Not Gurre Lieder or Havergal's Gothic big, perhaps, but nonetheless very big!

  10. Well, that's just the prequels being stupid. :lol: You could concievably show a realization of the Clone Wars that wasn't stupid and a depiction of the Jedi Order that didn't make you want to reach into the screen and exterminate them yourself.

     

    But something like Valinor or the creation of Mordor or the genesis of Mithril (who the hell even asked for that?! Never ever even crossed my mind!), that was going to be demystifying even if the realization weren't stupid (which it is).

  11. 57 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

    That was part of the problem with the Star Wars prequel trilogy...the Jedi order, the Clone Wars, etc. we're all spoken of as myth and legend in the OT.

     

    The Star Wars prequel trilogy doesnt spring to my mind is particularly demystifying. At least, not in the same way that The Rings of Power is: the only equivalent to that may be the whole Midichlorians thing: its something Tolkien himself referred to as "scientifying" fantasy. But, really, the equivalent of what The Rings of Power is doing would have been to show us the genesis of the Force or the creation of the Jedi Order, etc...

     

    Also, showing us Valinor: I think the power of the Grey Havens scene is exactly in that where Bilbo and Frodo go to is left to the imagination of the viewer. Now, appearantly, its this rather-bouldery grassy plain where Elf-children get bullied and where, en route, Frodo would have to hear Elrond, Galadriel and Celeborn do some vocal exercises because reasons...

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