Pellaeon

I mean, you can kind of imagine an early version of this going something like this: Maehdros’ Silmaril ended up in the earth, and Maglor’s Silmaril ended up in the sea. What are the two places where Mithril is found? Khazad-dûm and Númenor. Coincidence?? Maybe the light and magic of the two Silmarils … spilled… and infused the local metals or sth. So is Maedhros the Balrog? Or he trapped the Balrog… in the mithril? Galadriel’s ring is made of mithril… what can we do with that? Sort of a weird fan theory that just gets weirder from there.

It’s the tree from The Last Jedi.

Neil Gaiman was more honest. “I remember buying The Silmarillion as a schoolboy when it was published and it very much not being the prequel I was hoping for. [Rings of Power] is the sort of thing I wanted to experience back then.” That really puts things in perspective for me. This is where the normies’ heads are at. It’s not about adapting Tolkien, and it’s not particularly about NOT adapting Tolkien, but it IS about creating a LotR prequel like one might expect, that follows the normal rules of prequels. That’s my take.

The story of the Rings was certainly LotR setup. Númenor came about independently as part of a time-travel novel that Tolkien was writing in conjunction with C.S. Lewis’s space-travel novel (eventually a trilogy). This was in 1936-37, right around the time The Hobbit was being published (obviously after it was written and before there was a clamor for a direct sequel).

I didn’t say trilogy, and that 2022-2024-2026 release schedule was not a rumor: https://variety.com/2019/film/news/disney-avatar-star-wars-marvel-1203207661/ “Disney announced there will be a trio of untitled “Star Wars” entries. These will hit theaters after “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” brings the Skywalker spinoff saga to a close this December. The first of the new three films will hit the big screen on Dec. 16, 2022. There will be two other follow-ups that will premiere in the Christmas corridor on Dec. 20, 2024 and Dec. 18, 2026.” These were subsequently rescheduled for 2023 (Rogue Squadron), 2025, and 2027. https://web.archive.org/web/20210120044429/https://www.waltdisneystudios.com/assets/disney-release-calendar-12.15.20.pdf

Sharing them as fact? The two posts which begin, “I thought?” My post is not “straight from” anywhere other than my own 2019 post speculating on the subject right here on this board. I’ve always tried to be careful to separate the gossip from the official info, but at the end of the day, this is not a news agency; we can shoot the shit a little. If you think I said something wrong, I’d be happy to be corrected. Accusing your fellow posters of “misinformation” has such a sinister, slanderous quality about it. We’re just talking about star war movies!

Can you be more plain in what you are suggesting, and why it’s such a big deal to you?

Yeah, I thought Kennedy and Feige were going to produce the next three Star Wars films (originally slated for 2022 - 2024 - 2026), which were all going to have different directors.

Oh, that’s great! Going to pick up TVH, then, and not have to worry about a 4K player for now.

The truly hardcore are getting the individual releases, for the packaging/art. For movies 2-6, at this point I wouldn’t invest any time or money in any non-4K Blu-ray — neither the standalone releases nor the discs included in the new 4K sets. My understanding is they’re all from a decade and a half ago and suffer heavy DNR. TMP Theatrical (2021 remaster) or Director’s (2022 remaster) are going to be fine on Blu-ray, I expect.

But wait, just listen… It’s an audio drama! And it’s by Nicholas Meyer!

You’re right, I just looked it up, and I was wrong about that. Well... I guess they still don’t have much info on him that they can use, though.

It’s never mentioned in LotR that Finrod and Galadriel are siblings. I’m afraid they are legally unable to suggest that the “Galadriel’s brother” character in this show is Finrod.

I admit I will eventually get a 4K player. It was just going to be a double-whammy to buy it along with this set (which, again, is so expensive partially because of the blu-rays you’re also buying). Between this factor and the vaunted scarcity of the set, it just feels like a lot of arm-twisting. This was the real deal-breaker, spotted in the Digital Bits review: “The Special Longer Version is available in 2.0 Dolby Digital, while the Theatrical Version includes 7.1 Dolby TrueHD.” The studio is not obliged to give SLV a whole lot of TLC, I’m also not obliged to buy it, not at this price. A $17 blu-ray, sure.

Just canceled my preorder for “The Complete Adventure.” By all accounts, none of the sound work that was done for the DE 4K made it into the SLV 4K. Anyway, the idea that I would have to buy the DE if I want to watch the SLV is a real dick move. Not to mention I would have to buy a 4K player because the SLV is only on 4K. And yet I am still paying to have the other versions on Blu-ray. Not to mention at the end of the day I would probably prefer the Laserdisc rip anyway. What was I thinking? Luckily Amazon’s shipping was delayed.

It has been known since The Peoples of Middle-earth that the Blue Wizards arrived in the Second Age. And now we know from The Nature of Middle-earth, in the chapter “Note on the Delay of Gil-galad and the Númenóreans,” that they definitely arrived in the first half of the Second Age, i.e. before the death of Celebrimbor and before War of the Elves and Sauron (and way before the downfall of Númenor).

Ever since they announced it would be a Second Age show, I have been thinking about Tolkien’s Second Age. I used to be baffled at seeing Harfoots and Gandalf and the Balrog (all from the Third Age) popping up in the show, but now I’m really starting to see. it’s really not a Second Age show at all, at all. It IS the LotR Prologue+Appendices, MINED the way “Smallville” mines DC characters and concepts, and reboots them and remixes them.

I’ve seen the phrase “it’s a solid 7/10 for me” bandied about on several different forums and discord servers. I’ve never seen anyone rank a show out of 10 before (i.e., in casual conversation), let alone multiple people all agreeing on that number 7, so it kind of jumped out at me. Call me crazy.

Ahah, yes, it’s straight up in here! “And he tripped unaware on his slanting stair,         and like a meteor, A star in flight, ere Yule one night         flickering down he fell”

No, they went east to the Sea of Rhûn and maybe beyond, so they only exist in the lore and not in any tale. Because Tolkien threw in that “Five Wizards” mention in LotR, yet obviously only three of them were involved in the War, he had to justify why the other two were off-screen by putting them literally off-map. He mused that they either helped the Easterlings resist the Shadow (thus the Easterling invasion in the War could have been much worse) or else they went rogue decided to set themselves up as deities. Saruman also went to the east, but he came back. I have a whole fan theory about what he was up to.

I’m not clear if they have a right to all H+LR or all LR or just the LR appendices, but yes, as far as I know they do not have the rights to The Peoples of Middle-earth. What’s really not clear to me is how it might be “okay” to introduce Gandalf into Middle-earth in the Second Age — an idea not found in the LR and not found in Tolkien — but it might be “not okay” to introduce the Blue Wizards into Middle-earth in the Second Age — an idea not found in the LR but found in Tolkien. You might be right that the latter is specifically forbidden while the former isn’t. I don’t know. I DO know which idea fans would be more okay with, though.

Tolkien did decide that the Blue Wizards and Glorfindel arrive in Middle-earth in the 2nd Age. This was published in The Peoples of Middle-earth. Of course they arrive by boat. Elven ships, I mean. I.e., space ships. So nobody seriously likes my Man in the Moon idea? He is really a Tolkien character who appears in at least 5 writings I can think of, most significantly Roverandom where he is described as a powerful wizard, and in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, essentially a collection of “hobbit lore” (although the one where the Man in the Moon falls from the sky is a Gondorian legend). If the showrunners went looking for hobbit legends, they might have found it.

Unless.....