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    Locrius reacted to H2OProof in Will John Williams be remembered mainstream in 2100?   
    I've heard some people say if Shakespeare were alive today, he would be writing for Hollywood. I think the same can be said of composers like Beethoven and especially Mozart. If they were alive today, they would be composing film scores. I think it is safe to consider John Williams one of the greatest composers of film scores of the last 30 years, if not THE GREATEST (which is what I think). Over time, I can see suites from some of John Williams scores becoming part of the concert repertoire of symphony orchestras around the world like Lt. Kije and Alexander Nevsky by Prokofiev and Henry V by Walton. Orchestral music is currently not mainstream especially in American culture and I do not expect it to be in 95 years. However, I do feel that the music of John Williams will be "mainstream" in symphony concerts in 95 years. His music is just too good to ignore.
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    Locrius reacted to Kasey Kockroach in The official HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON thread   
    What the hey, I'll do another theme ID, since I'm a rare lad that's actually watched these movies and thus has some idea what theme applies to who/what.
    This is the theme for the beautiful thief of my heart, Astrid! My otherwise cold dead cat-loving heart ignites whenever it pops up throughout the three scores.

     
    2:59
     
    And of course, Romantic Flight. Also opens the cue "Coming Back Around". In HTTYD2, you'll hear it in "Hiccup the Chief" and the latter half of "Two New Alphas". 
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    Locrius reacted to SteveMc in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    Weakest?  I think not.  Less extroverted, more precise I would say.  For me, it is the best, but that may be subjective.  But this is an exceptionally strong score, certainly no worse than the other two.
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    Locrius reacted to crocodile in What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)   
    How To Train Your Dragon trilogy by John Powell. It's certainly one of the finest thing to come out in the 10's. Grand and epic as any modern blockbusters should be these days...and yet so full of emotion. It really soars. When you listen to them all together it's easy to hell how much John Powell has changed over the past 10 years. Delicious.
     
    Karol
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    Locrius reacted to Zanobard in What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)   
    Jumping on the bandwagon too - How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World by John Powell.
     
    Yeah, wow. Powell pretty much nailed this one. It's a fantastic conclusion to his near masterful score trilogy, and a phenomenal album on it's own.
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    Locrius reacted to Bespin in What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)   
    I think we'll need a "How to Train Your Dragon" subforum.
     
    TLW


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    Locrius reacted to SteveMc in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    Listening now.  
    Now this is a score!
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    Locrius reacted to Kasey Kockroach in The official HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON thread   
    I'm at work right now so I can't link videos and specific points, but you can especially look for it in "Toothless Found" and "Losing Mom" in HTTYD2 (the latter having a piano rendition of it, if I recall correctly).
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    Locrius reacted to Kasey Kockroach in The official HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON thread   
    I haven't the mental energy to do every theme in one huge post, but I'll start you off with what I consider to be Hiccup's theme.
    Pretty much the entirety of this track.
     
    And 3:15 of this one.
     
    And 3:52 of this one.
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    Locrius reacted to Alex in 91st Annual Academy Awards Discussion Thread   
    Best Editing nomination but this hurts my brain 
     
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    Locrius got a reaction from Bofur01 in The official HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON thread   
    I think it’s time for someone far more knowledgeable than I to do a theme catalogue/track analysis ala SW and LOTR. I still don’t know all the themes and motifs in this trilogy; there are so many!
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    Locrius reacted to crocodile in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    The samples sound great. Even from those 30-second clips you can tell the franchise has evolved from something very cool into something even more wonderful. It would seem working on the oratorio and then with Williams last year really helped to create yet another jump in Powell's evolution as a composer. Absolutely cannot wait to hear the rest. And to watch the movie as well - I really enjoyed the first two.
     
    Karol
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    Locrius reacted to Kasey Kockroach in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    It's felt rewarding to have kept up with his career all this time and buy all those silly Ice Age albums or Horton Hears a Who or whatever, and slowly recognize just how much he's perfected his technique. 
    It's exhilarating not only for this particular project, but to imagine what would be in store for him after this. What's next after completing this trilogy? 
    Who knows, probably another silly kiddie flick like Rio 5 or something. What the hey, I'm up for that. His music for the Blue Sky movies made those movies a lot easier to sit through when babysitting the roommates' kids. Though I do particularly long for a western score from him! 
     
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    Locrius reacted to Arpy in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    I can't help but feel a little bit of his experience working on Solo might've stuck through!
     
    It's wonderful to hear each score grow and flourish so much so that when he references the themes from the first film they feel like old memories brought back to life!
     
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    Locrius reacted to Kasey Kockroach in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    I know what all the tunes are for the prior two scores, but have never known them by their official titles. I just go by my own reference (there’s a recurring motif I recall hearing in this one and the first one that I call the “anguish motif”, for lack of a better title).
    But there’s probably as many themes as Williams has for a Star Wars trilogy! Difference being of course Powell doesn’t literally title a cue “Hiccup’s Theme” or whatever. 
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    Locrius reacted to crocodile in John Powell kicks ass   
    I was listening to this interview last night actually. The anecdote (starting at around 41-minute mark) about Powell presenting his L3 material/sketches to Williams was hilarious. 😂
     
    Karol
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    Locrius reacted to PrayodiBA in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    "Furies in Love" score video:
     
     
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    Locrius reacted to PrayodiBA in John Powell's How To Train Your Dragon (3): The Hidden World   
    Themes Breakdown
     
    Having seen the movie, i try to breakdown which music belongs to
     
    Now, Mr. Powell's given us the clue, so it's gonna be easy:
     
    First of all, i think this is what made John Powell score a John Powell score; I love how he structurizes the music into Themes, Tunes, Motif and Riff. That way, it enables a lot of new music, but at the same time, still narratively cohesive.
     
    Now, here we go:
     
    Furies in Love Tune
    Well, of course:
    (0:36 onward)
     
    Grimmel Tune
    First heard in this track. 1:09 - 1:33 & 1:56 onwards
     
     
    Hidden World Theme
    First heard in this track. A nice foreshadowing ( this what makes Powell is the king of narrative in film music). 3:00-3-28
     
    Another major foreshadowing, now with choir ala TSFH:
     
    Of course, before it explodes into its main statement
     
     
    Heroes Tune(s)
    Look how Powell emphasize on the music being more than one:
    The first tune, First heard in this track, with truly Powellian statement: 3:27-3:47
     
    The second tune, is in this track, at 1:24-1:50
     
    Look how it refers again to the previous tune:
     
     
     
    Village Hymn
    I love this rendition, with solo viola. 2:30-2:45
     
    The main statement of course:
     
    And lets not forget, the ending ( perfectly suited for the spoiler scene )
     
     
     
    Fate Tune
    I love this, with solo flute ala The Lion King. 00:00-00:58
     
    and this 00:36-1:17
     
     
     
    Light Fury Motif
    Nice foreshadowing. 3:52-3:58
     
    again:
     
    and to this regal statement: 0:00-0:23
     
     
    Fate Riff
    1:01-1:28
     
    I love this 3:14-3:37 ( that high note though)
     
     
    Spoiler Riff
    Indicated by the emoji given on his post, i can assume that this is Mating Riff. 0:40-1-20
     
     
    March of The Warlords
    2:50-3:08
     
     
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    Locrius reacted to Oomoog the Ecstatic in Michael Giacchino: Unpopular Opinions   
    This should just be called the Michael Giacchino fact thread.
     
    Fun fact:
    F*** off, giacchino
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    Locrius reacted to TheUlyssesian in Michael Giacchino: Unpopular Opinions   
    This!
     
    I definitely think he is not a natural composer. His work rarely seems effortless in the way Williams' does (save for maybe Ratatouille.)
     
    I also have yet to seem him score a drama in any meaningful way, so that shows he's kinda limited.
     
    I think his themes are often too short and do not have secondary sections or phrases. That's why he does not do many concert suites though he does more than many other modern composers.
     
    A lot of the time he's trying really hard and you can see that. Trying very hard to be Williams or whatever his conception of an ideal composer is.
     
    That said,
     
    I do like a lot of his work. He just needs more maturity, more grace, more sophistication in his work. 
     
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    Locrius reacted to JohnnyD in 'Hooten Plays Williams' - New recording of John Williams' Trumpet Concerto now available   
    I got a personal letter in the mail today from Thomas Hooten, written and signed by him. It reads:
     
    "Dear John, Thank you so much for your significant help in the John Williams recording project. This would not have been possible without you and I'm incredibly grateful for your generosity. The recording session was truly a once in a lifetime experience; thank you for making it a reality. I can't wait to share it with you. By Monday, Jan. 21, I will have sent the master to get CD's printed. Thank you again for your extremely generous help. Sincerely, Tom Hooten."
     
    I cannot wait to get the CD, liner notes and framed copy of the first page of the concerto next month.
     
     
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    Locrius reacted to TheUlyssesian in Here is what other composers are saying about John Williams   
    Patrick Doyle asked to pick his top 3 scores ever: The Godfather, E.T. and Close Encounters.
     
     
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    Locrius reacted to TheUlyssesian in Here is what other composers are saying about John Williams   
    Has this been posted?
     
    Desplat: John Williams' Catch Me If You can should have won everything. His opening titles is forever. Just for that he should have had the oscar. Done. Genius.
     
     
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