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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Jurassic Shark in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Film music geeks have no clues about such social codes.
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to crumbs in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    After spending some time with it tonight, overall I have to say I really dislike the new presentation. The audio and video quality is marvelous, but the "experience" of a concert is totally lost.
     
    The applause and JW's reactions are cut short after every performance, removing his fun interactions with the audience.
     
    0:50 of credits at the end of every single video disrupts the musical flow, so you can't place all the videos in a playlist without long gaps between tracks.
     
    After the Elegy, they've completely removed the interplay between JW and Bruno (where he insisted he take to the podium, but Bruno refused).
     
    Even the final video ends moments after JW is handed flowers, omitting the cute exchange where he handed off the flowers to the violinist and thanked the crowd (the entire extended applause is completely absent).
     
    Why would you remove all these moments when there's no time restraints for your videos?! It's like getting a new JW OST and finding all the fun details microedited out!
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to crumbs in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    I thought the direction was absolutely superb on the live broadcast. He clearly knew the music and was well prepared with the cameras. 
  4. Confused
    St0rMl0rD reacted to crumbs in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    So you can't sit down to watch the full concert, only chunks for each piece? Weird choice.
  5. Haha
    St0rMl0rD reacted to Tom in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    I thought these concerts had been cancelled.  
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to aj_vader in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    They've added times next to the concert listings and also they've added Leia's Theme (sorry if that's already been mentioned). Maybe Wlliams/Digital Concert Hall is choosing the 'best' recording of each piece from the three concerts? 
     
    https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/concert/53783
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Once in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    I went to the reshearsal with my childhood friend. I'm 27, he's 26 and 20 of for those years we've been listening to John Williams together.
    I can't really describe how it felt to see him live. My friend and I couldn't even really talk about it, and I guess it's meaningless to try anyway. Let's just say it was a deeply emotional experience.
     
    I feel the need to share this experience with someone who might understand it, but I can't even put it into words (not even in Danish, if I tried, haha). I just feel so lucky to live in a world with and at the same time as John Williams!
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to oweron in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tq4y1G7Wo?p=2&spm_id_from=pageDriver 
     
    Here you can watch the concert on video
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to crlbrg in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Well you just made my day - I can now say I have a photo with JW
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Thor in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    And so, here's my review as well, for anyone interested:
     
    http://celluloidtunes.no/john-williams-the-berliner-philharmoniker/
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Chewy in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Great picture!
     

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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Locrius in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Aw man. I've rewatched the Friday video several times and figured out what happened. Since there's a big slow-down in the bar before the credits, Williams subdivides the last beat of the measure (beat 4) as two eighth-notes. For reference, a normal conducting pattern in a 4-beat measure is down (1), in (2), out (3), up (4).
     
    However, since Williams wants to split beat 4 into two eighth notes, he actually beats beat 4 down (and kind of low), and then for the upbeat of beat 4 (so, the eighth-note before the credits, aka the second half of beat 4), he beats up. Everyone else seems to catch what Williams is doing. But if the trumpet player for some reason isn't able to see Williams kind of gently beating beat 4 down low, then when he sees Williams beat upwards he thinks "Oh, that's beat 4" and plays his pickup note after that.
     
    ...When actually, Williams' upstroke is the "and" of beat 4, the second half of the beat. That's why the trumpet player's note is so short; he thinks Williams' upstroke is the entire beat 4 (rather than the latter half of beat 4 which it actually is), so he plays his eighth-note pickup to the credits twice as short as it should be. He can plainly tell where Williams is about to put his downbeat for the start of the credits, but since he mistakenly thinks beat 4 is so short (when actually, it's so long that Williams subdivides it!), he plays his pickup note short. Since he doesn't notice Williams' downward beat 4, he probably thinks beat 3 is actually the one being super-stretched (almost like a mini fermata). It's just a fundamental misunderstanding.
     
    In other words, the guy doesn't seem to be catching Williams' actual beat 4. And since beat 4 is usually conducted as an upstroke - not down - the trumpet player thinks he's seeing beat 4 being conducted, when actually he's seeing the second half of beat 4 being conducted. Sorry if this is confusing; I hope someone else on the forum who is musically-literate understands the point I'm trying to make.
     
    Go see for yourself in the video; can anyone else confirm they're seeing what I'm seeing? It's a bummer. The thing is, as a musician (and a brass player), I can see why the trumpet player would think the way he did. The issue could have been avoided if Williams conducted beat 4 as a partial upstroke (which would have made everyone plainly aware of where beat 4 was), and then re-beat up in the air to signal the second half of the beat. So basically, conduct beat 4 in the normal direction (upwards), but do two gestures upwards to subdivide the beat, so everybody knows what is what.
     
    TLDR: Normally beat 4 is conducted as an upstroke, but Williams conducted beat 4 as a downstroke so he could do the second half of beat 4 as an upstroke. The trumpet player mistakenly thought the upstroke Williams did for the second half of beat 4, was actually the beginning of beat 4. That's why the trumpet player's last note before the credits is so late and short.
     
    EDIT: Yep, he played it correctly on Thursday night; listen to how his note is longer and lines up with the rest of the orchestra. So, I'm 99% sure that's what happened. The other times, the guy got confused by what Williams was doing for beat 4 of that measure, and you can hear he sounds a little uncertain as to the placement of his note. Too bad; hopefully Thursday gets used for that spot in the commercial recording, but I won't hold my breath.
     
    @Sibelius6, thoughts?
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to crumbs in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    What stunning playing that was -- and to think he's so young! Made me an instant fan.
     
    At the end of the piece, I noticed Williams stood down and gestured Bruno to stand on the podium, but he refused (presumably out of modesty, or not wanting to place himself above the Maestro).
     
    The future is in safe hands.
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Omen II in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Williams should totally have done this.  It would’ve taught the fellow a lesson while also giving a nod to one of the pieces in the programme.
     

     
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to bollemanneke in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Tell that to my country, we have a 90% vaccination rate here and infections and hospitalisations are rising like crazy. Best not to put too much thought into it, I suppose?
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to michael_grig in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Oh no. He really seems to be one of the wrong mask wearers...
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Locrius in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Does the video not work for anyone else? Man, it's frustrating; I keep seeing members posting .MOV video links, but none of them are working for me. 
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    St0rMl0rD got a reaction from bollemanneke in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Yes! I'm glad someone mentioned it, what the heck was that lol. A few bars off, maybe misread the line, haha.
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Luke Skywalker in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    One weird thing I noticed...is that with the performance of "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra", Williams unknowningly may have been the 1st composer to perform Nazi music in the open in germany since the end of WWII... (Nazi motif from Last Crusade)
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to BB-8 in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Yes, looked very much as if these concerts were also recorded - the automated cameras were moving and special mikes were placed in front of the cello for the elegy...
    Except for the timpani flub in JP...
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Damien F in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Leia's Theme as the first encore on Thursday was the first piece he played after that autograph hunter ran after him as he was leaving the stage and was removed by security. The very first thing Williams said when he returned to the podium was "Here's the problem..."
     
    For a second, I thought he was going to talk about the problem with autograph hunters, but he actually started talking about the problem of writing a "love theme" for Luke and Leia in A New Hope who subsequently turned out to be siblings. 
     
     
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Biodome in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    I've also had that post-concert depression after Vienna, and I do have it now after Berlin. Luckily, La Scala next year gives me another John Williams experience to look forward to, so it's not that bad.
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to BB-8 in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    And luckily the performance on Thursday was perfect, wasn't it? So that will hopefully make a nice bonus track on the upcoming release!
     
    Although the sun has come out here in Germany, I am also finding it hard to get back into everyday life.
     
    It seems I haven't quite grasped what has actually happened. I am very grateful but, at the same time,  I feel a little melancholic that this life-time dream is over.
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to Joni Wiljami in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    Indeed!! There were also many other musicians of Orchestra hanging there in the street bar outside of the Philharmonie and they all praised John as a musician and also as a human beeing, they had a wonderful week together!!
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    St0rMl0rD reacted to QuartalHarmony in John Williams & Berliner Philharmoniker 14th/15th/16th Oct 2021   
    JW is a real musicians' conductor - plenty of other conductors wouldn't hesitate to drop a piece for personal reasons without also thinking to put the soloist's mind at rest on the 'was it something I did?' front.
     
    Reason no. 94 he's the Master.
     
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