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19 hours ago, WampaRat said:
After listening to The Last Duel frequently, I was in the mood to revisit HGWs Kingdom of Heaven again. I know it tends to be fairly well regarded. Yet some didn’t connect with it. But after listening to the OST and then listening to the Recording sessions, it struck me how the original album really undercut the beautiful architecture of of HGWs score. Action set pieces were split up and scattered all over the album, negatively impacting the narrative flow. The RS have terrific highlights but are probably a bit too long to sit through. I decided to make a personal edit that combines the OST with selections from the RS in mostly chronological order into a suitably epic (but not too long) 75 minutes. It flows wonderfully and the development of his score really comes alive- leading the listener on an emotional and epic journey through the Medieval Europe and the Holy land. If you don’t mind the work (I actually enjoy making personal edits) It’s very rewarding and worth the effort.
- Burning the Past (OST)
- Crusaders (OST)
- I am your Father (RS)
- After Godfrey (RS)
- Swordplay (RS)
- A New World (OST)
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To Messina (RS)/To Jerusalem(OST)
(*edited these two together. It’s a fantastic montage of music to encapsulate Bailin’s journey to Holy Land) - Golgotha (OST “The King” 0:00-1:22)
- My Lord (RS)
- The King (OST “The King” 1:22-2:23)
- The Pilgrim Road (OST 0:00-2:20)
- Ibelin (OST)
- Sybila (OST)
- Caravan Road (OST “Wall Breached 1:11-END)
- Battle of Karak(OST)
- Terms (OST “The King” 2:23-END)
- Coronation (OST)
- Leprosy (OST “An Understanding” 0:00-1:58)
- Desert Thirst/To War (OST “Terms” 1:10-END)
- They Are Here (RS)
- Rise a Knight (OST)/Almerik’s Peerage (RS) (edited these together)
- Siege (Made this a combination of a couple different tracks - “A Better Man” (OST 0:00-1:23) “2nd Day of War” (RS) and “Wall Breached”(OST 0:00-1:18)
- Door Into Jerusalem (OST “An Understanding” 1:59-END)
- Wall Breached (RS)
- Everything (OST “Saladin” 2:15-END)
- Path to Heaven (OST)
- Light of Life (OST)* - I also added “Crusaders”(OST) to this just to bring things full circle. A nice little reprise. And then ended things with the short “Smell of Wood” (RS) cue that hauntingly restates the Ibelin theme:)
Feel free to use my custom cover (seen here). I also found this YouTube channel extremely helpful in understanding all the motifs and themes HGW created for the score (which ultimately got butchered by the Director of course) Check it out as well. Sorry for essay. Cheers!
Thank you for posting that theme analysis! I was already a huge fan of the score but that has done wonders for my understanding of it.
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15 minutes ago, AC1 said:
Kingdom Of Heaven
The first part is good mainly because Liam Neeson is always (!) likeable when he plays the role of a mentor. I really don't know how he does that. The second part, when Orlando Bloom settles down in Jerusalem and women throw themselves at his feet, is less interesting. Things get good again during the third part when an impressive and involving huge battle takes place. However, the only time the film truly touches me, is an intimate moment when Ridley Scott uses that classical vocal/choir piece that supposedly is co-written by Hans Zimmer (yeah, right!). Anyway, it's a beautiful moment and it shows what music and images are capable of when both are great.
Did you watch the director's cut?
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1 hour ago, Tallguy said:
I think it got better in Titanic.
Yes, I think I'll agree with that.
Also.. a shoutout to the Re-entry & Splashdown cue:
As in the film, the first four minutes is literally waiting for something to happen, and Horner scores it beautifully. It's incredibly tense but also so so emotional. It could have been just four minutes of a tremolo string line keeping us waiting but he modulates and tempers so creatively and beautifully to keep the interest up, with that snare drum always there. And then the eventual release...

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Listening to APOLLO 13 again tonight, I was reminded how much I love those final moments of All Systems Go / The Launch, when everything has calmed down. The solo trumpet, then that rising harp/tremelo strings line with the softly cooing choir. So gorgeous and a lovely 'mini coda' to an otherwise epic cue.
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APOLLO 13 - JAMES HORNER
My favourite Horner score. I don't listen to it often, for that reason. But I'm drunk, so I need it.
Many moments to behold. The lonely, plaintive opening version of the theme... and the glorious, full-blooded iterations in the final couple of cues. And all the stuff in between. The incredible The Launch, the thrilling Master Alarm (the best version of that particular structure he's used before), the haunting The Dark Side Of The Moon... it's all sublime.
One of the best Horner scores, and one of the best scores of the 90s. I love it.

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I guess I can appreciate its construction. I just don't find it particularly listenable.
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HALLOWEEN KILLS
Wow, what a pile of bollocks. I quite liked the first instalment of this new Halloween timeline but this is just a mess.
SpoilerHow on Earth did he get away at the end? Why did none of the mob crowd bring a gun? Why was one of them equipped with merely an iron? I have so many questions.
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Just listened to the first few cues of DUNE. Couldn't get any further. Does having watched the film assist in enjoying the music?
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Film music on a first date is a very ballsy move. I only did it once but I knew the girl was a massive film buff like me. Can't remember exactly what I played... might have been some James Horner or Thomas Newman.
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I haven't heard the expansion yet but, while this is a score I hold dear and consider a highlight of the 90s, it's not one I listen to very often. I don't often listen to it in its entirety either; I just have a few highlight cues spattered within various compilations.
I agree, it does have a Barry-esque approach; the main theme is extremely prevalent which lessens its impact.
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Listening to VERTICAL LIMIT by James Newton Howard...
It's a tiny little moment but I love this subtle chord change, with strings, in the final cue It's A Good Song (1:13)...
JNH is great at making lovely chord changes but this one is a favourite. It's just a great segue from a Cmaj into an inverted Bb(add2).
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THE LAST DUEL
A bleak 14th century soap opera masquerading as something profound. Outside of Jodie Comer (who is brilliant in everything she does) I wasn't convinced by any of the main performances. It all felt a little on the nose and stagey.
Everything 'physical', ie the production design and cinematography is, as always for Scott, exemplary and I do like the score, as others here have, particularly the end credits 'song'.
2.5 / 5
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1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:
Martin Campbell, perhaps?

Martin Campbell should direct every Bond's first outing. That should just be a given.
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19 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:
A View to a Kill (John Barry) - felt appropriate to revisit one of my favourite Bond scores. I never used to care for the song but it grew on me and these days it’s one of my favourites, even down to the batshit crazy lyrics, which somehow seem completely normal. And the way Barry turns the won’t melody into a luxurious love theme is a typical touch of genius. The guitar twangs in the main action motif dates it slightly but the action motif itself is terrific, showing that Barry still had new things to say for a Bond score after all those years (especially after Octopussy and The Man with the Golden Gun, which aren’t high points in his Bond career).
Yeah, the song’s great. -
Yes, please don’t post this absolute bollocks again.
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46 minutes ago, Tallguy said:
I'm really looking forward to this. I love the story and I love the cast.
Nice, I've been eagerly awaiting this for a while. Looking forward to Newman's score too.
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Not the most engaging of Howard's repertoire but it is a lovely half hour of inoffensive string and woodwind noodling that gets me through making dinner.
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"White Knight", for the superb building of tension before the action kicks in.
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5 hours ago, Mephariel said:
Does Nolan even have any connections with JNH? I read that James Newton Howard was brought on by Zimmer on The Dark Knight. I never read an interview where Nolan talks about JNH.
I wouldn't be behind a solo JNH collaboration with Nolan. Look at all the projects JNH has been doing lately... lots of big, melodic, old-fashioned loveliness. Save the dour Nolan projects for Zimmer and the rest.
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1 hour ago, MedigoScan said:
I still think Thomas Newman did an okay job with the action music for Skyfall, though he does reuse a lot of it in both movies.
I agree. For a composer who is generally uninterested in scoring action films I think Newman wrote some pretty engaging action music. The opening chase in Skyfall is brilliantly scored IMO.
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21 hours ago, Edmilson said:
Thomas Newman (American Beauty, The Shawshank Redemption, 1917, Finding Nemo, Skyfall, Wall-E) has recently been recording his score for the upcoming drama White Bird: A Wonder Story.
Very exciting project. He has a few upcoming now.




HGWs Kingdom of Heaven (A Reevaluation and Appreciation)
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Very good. I will also definitely try out that playlist you listed. I've always struggled between both presentations, so thanks again.