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    HunterTech reacted to Tallguy in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    As someone who reflexively hit the skip button on that track for years I have to say that once you get past the beepity boops that open the track and it smooths out it's not bad. No, I'm not taking it over Backseat Driver, but it serves the scene well. Better than Backseat Driver, actually, which isn't that great in the film. And it's a really good scene. So good that Mission: Impossible 2 would snatch it a few years later.
     
    I've said it before but I think 80% of the hate for this score is directed at the first 30 seconds of this one track.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from enderdrag64 in 2022 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION studio sites (featuring music)   
    In fairness: it's not like JWFan is this website with heavy amounts of traffic. If the listing got more bids, it'll be because it's FYC season and not because some dude posted it on some forum.
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    HunterTech reacted to Disco Stu in Moonraker, License to Kill, and Tomorrow Never Dies expanded releases almost happened but are now on hold   
    Boy I wish we had downvoting on this forum 
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    HunterTech reacted to Not Mr. Big in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    Oh wait there's a third one too.  And it's the best one
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Cindylover1969 in La-La Land Records Black Friday 2022   
    Which would suck, because the Debney cues remain the only missing pieces. And yet I do wonder if the whole experience was enough of a deterrent for Elfman that he figures he's better off not getting in the way of the expansion, if only because he knows how much fans do like the music in the film (even if it butchers his work).
     
    (Do note that the OST has no thank you section whatsoever, to give an idea of just how pissed off he was afterwards.)
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    HunterTech reacted to Groovygoth666 in Rian Johnson developing a fourth Star Wars trilogy... Oh my..   
    I don't subscribe to the whole roadmap for the whole saga theory, for either Lucas or Disney. While I do believe Lucas had written a very extensive saga and had to pick a specific part to tell for his first film, everything from after that when making the films was worked out on the fly, with much of it changing from what he had intended, due in part to people like Gary Kurtz, Lawrence Kasdan, Irvin Kershner, Richard Marquand and Marcia Lucas and others I'm probably forgetting. Thing's like
     
    - Obi Wan and Owen being brothers
    - Vader being a gun for hire and Darth being his first name which is why Obi Wan refer's to him as Darth
    - Han shooting first 
    - Jabba being human
    - the Splinter of the Mind's Eye novel being the original sequel to Star Wars, with it being a small story that if Star Wars had failed would be the cheaper option to adapt to film
    - the opening crawl being an homage to serials like Flash Gordon, filling the audience in on the story so far, with IV and ANH being added to suggest that the audience had missed something before turning into the middle part of an overall story with the idea of prequels coming in later 
    - Luke and Leia not being brother and sister, with a couple of romantic scenes filmed between them for ESB
    - Boba Fett's armour being a garrison of super stormtroopers instead of a bounty hunter 
    - Anakin originally making an planned appearance as a force ghost in ESB to help Luke while facing Vader
    - Han being put in carbonite because they didn't know if Harrison would come back for a third film
    - Yoda not being planned to appear in ROTJ till Lucas spoke to a friend who was a child psychologist that said a young audience needed to hear a good character confirm Vader was Luke's father, because they would think Vader was lying 
    - Boba Fett being the main villain of the original sequel trilogy
    - the whole original sequel trilogy being about Luke finding his sister Nellith
    - Lucas changing of the number of episodes in the saga, from 12 to 9 to only being 6 before going back to 9
    - the special editions
    - every change made to the special editions on home media 
    - Palpatine being Anakins father
    - the change of when the Empire took over of the Republic being from 30 year's to 20 year's before ANH
    - after the prequels Lucas considered Maul being the antagonist with Darth Talon being his apprentice for the sequels
    - Lucas saying that the sequel trilogy could have explored the microbiotic world, introducing the whills as microscopic organisms 
    - the agreement when selling Lucasfilm to Disney being that they would use Lucas's sequel trilogy ideas, and disregarding them
    - the wreakage of the second Death Star being planned to appear in episode VII only for the idea to be recycled in TROS 
    - Poe originally dying before Oscar Isaac asked for him to survive 
    - Rian Johnson asking JJ to change it so R2 went with Rey to Ahch-To at the end of TFA instead of BB-8
    - the changes made to Rogue Ones third act during post production 
    - Rian Johnson ignoring JJ's treatment for Ep VII and starting from scratch 
    - Snokes origins
    - Lando originally being the codebreaker in TLJ
    - Lord and Miller's Solo film
    - Colin Treverrows Ep IX
    - Rey being Obi Wans daughter in TFA, then being nobody in TLJ, going from being related to Palpatine back to Obi Wan before settling on Palpatine during the production of TROS
    - Finn being force sensitive before this subplot was dropped in TROS
    - the changes made to JJ's final edit for TROS by Disney 
    - Kenobi originally being a movie before being turned into a series, with the original focus being on him and Luke, before being changed to Leia 
    - Obi Wan being completely unaware of Leia's importance in ESB ("that boy was our last hope" " no there is another", originally refering to Nellith before being retconed in ROTJ to Leia) to him being there not only at her birth but having to save her due to Bails insistence that she will be just as important in saving the galaxy as Luke in Kenobi 
     
    Not to mention the contradictions in the Marvel comics off the top of my head being
    - Yoda's lightsaber being incinerated but appearing in BOBF
    - Kanan during Order 66 being changed for the Bad Batch 
     
    Overall things changed, evolved or were dropped entirely throughout the production of not only the original film but everything after it, some small and surface level, others have big impact on the story, it was always an ongoing process, sometimes it worked out other time's it didn't. 
     
    This thread over on originaltrilogy.com has a wealth of information including articles, interviews and such from over the years regarding Lucas plans and changes over the years and is a very interesting read.
     
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    HunterTech reacted to WampaRat in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    I’d say with this score, Planet of the Apes, and probably Sleepy Hollow a couple years before that even, there was a big shift/maturation in Elfman’s Big Blockbuster Mode. So much more dense, and complex. His instant classics of the late eighties and early nineties were so punchy and thematically transparent. He even describes his earlier work as “quaint” in a few places in the the Burton Elfman box set.  
     
    Id say he’s gotten even more complex in his writing since Spider-Man. (See his JL or Dr Strange for reference). But for me it’s kinda become big complex orchestral mush that’s difficult to enjoy. Spider-Man in comparison to something like Dr Strange or JL seems quaint now lol.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from blondheim in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    If they really wanted to, they could've barely fit the full main score onto one disc. And yet because Elfman seems so insistent that they always include the OST to go first, they're better off not stressing the discs out if this is to be the arrangement.
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    HunterTech reacted to TownerFan in Mike Matessino: "At least 5" new Williams releases due this year   
    It's not greed. It's a mechanism that gives musicians the opportunity to give value to their work and get some safeguard for their pensions, especially because a lot of this music is constantly reused and repurposed in many forms. I know this seems unfair to soundtrack collectors, but it's a way that unions agreed upon to protect musicians, without whom those film scores we all so love wouldn't exist at all. These session musicians are normal people who work to pay mortgage, tuition for their kids and save some earnings for when they're retired, like all of us. Because film music, before being art that has to be made accessible to everyone, is work. Surely very beautiful and even a privileged one, but still work.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Edmilson in Avatar 2, 3 and 4 or how James Cameron stopped worrying and pulled The Hobbit on us   
    I know the context in this instance is mainly about visual effects, but given some of the shit digital artists/painters get in the current internet landscape (especially now that AI art is on the rise), I would refrain from making such an overly general statement.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Marian Schedenig in Michael Kamen & Henry Mancini - LIFEFORCE (1985) - NEW! 2022 Intrada albums   
    It absolutely is a leap in quality in terms of the sound. Plus having the choir version of the finale cue without the weird brief distortion is a definite plus (even if it makes the sole BSX holdover pretty confusing if there was no choirless version on the original master tapes). The extras don't really offer much in the way of any replay value, but they're a fun curiosity for one listen. Only real complaint is that I'm not fond of some of the track combos (Call Of The Wild should've stayed two separate cues).
     
    Since you say you don't listen to the score often, you probably should hear the samples on the website to decide if it'd be enough of an improvement to your ears to warrant a purchase.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from enderdrag64 in La-La Land Records Black Friday 2022   
    (Especially if that bootleg is only available in very outdated MP3 compression.)
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Bofur01 in Villeneuve's DUNE   
    .....who the fuck on Twitter complained about Dune having too many dudes?
     
    Hell, given this is under the new Discovery management now, I expect it to be canceled after how they treated Batgirl and heavily minimized staff in I'll just say specific ways.
     
    This is so fucking direct in its bitterness that I'm kind of impressed.
     
    Now, if you'd actually bothered to use Google at all, you could see that this particular group is quite prominent in the universe. Zimmer even made a whole track for them that actually kicks a lot of ass! Just saying that perhaps it isn't so weird to make a spin off related to them.
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    HunterTech reacted to Chen G. in Rian Johnson developing a fourth Star Wars trilogy... Oh my..   
    I've said it a million times, but there had never been a Star Wars trilogy that had a plan, as such. Ever.
     
    The classic trilogy sure as hell didn't have a plan: Vader having not been Luke's father before March or April 1978 and Leia having not been his sister until February 1981. Not only that, but the style of the films and the very concept of the series had markedly changed: it was originally going to be closer to what Indiana Jones ended-up being: standalone adventures, made in a "quick and dirty" style with a self-consciously B-movie style. Then in 1980 it turned into a big-budgeted saga and its B-movie character downplayed. Lucas, Kershner and Marquand all have markedly different feel to their mise en scene.
     
    The prequel trilogy didn't really have a plan beyond the most rudimentary "Anakin has to go evil, Palpatine rise to power and Yoda and Obi Wan must survive." That's something, but its not a lot: many essential plot points like the death of Anakin's mother leading him to perform a massacre, and even Padme's death at the end were concieved of "on the fly", not from the outset.
     
    And, certainly, if the point of "having a plan" is to have all three entries feel of-a-piece, the prequel trilogy certainly fails: the ten-year time jump between its first and second entry makes it feel incredibly lopsided, like a prelude and a separate duology rather than a trilogy; plotlines and characters are dropped entirely (Jar Jar, Boba Fett, the whole "Sifo Dyas" malarky), the look changed radically from 35mm anamorphic to 1080p anamorphic to 1080p spherical. The mise-en-scene is mostly consistent (discounting the proclivity to use "flyovers" in Episode III), I'll give it that.
     
    In generals, planned movie series are the exception to the norm: by not having a plan and rather building one entry upon the one that came before, you leave yourself a lot more leeway to adjust for audience reception. Whereas if you truly have a well honed-in plan, you're kind of locked into a situation where if audiences didn't like the first entry...
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Brando in La-La Land Records Black Friday 2022   
    Which would suck, because the Debney cues remain the only missing pieces. And yet I do wonder if the whole experience was enough of a deterrent for Elfman that he figures he's better off not getting in the way of the expansion, if only because he knows how much fans do like the music in the film (even if it butchers his work).
     
    (Do note that the OST has no thank you section whatsoever, to give an idea of just how pissed off he was afterwards.)
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Holko in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    Holy. Shit.
     
    THREE DISCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    This is simply a dream come true! To actually hear the full score in not-ancient MP3 form! I am enough of a nitpicker to see that it looks like it's missing the film insert for Costume Montage, but that means very little to me ultimately! Am curious about the alts for New Powers and Backyard Connection, as the film does use bits that aren't on the leak, so it could be from those.
     
    And I'm near absolutely certain that the alt for Costume Montage is the same one that Elfman used to have on his website (only without the crappy 2000s internet compression hopefully):
     
    Definitely want to hear the other alts as well!
     
    With this, Spidey 2 and 3 would have to be 4 discs each! Well, maybe less so 2, as I can't imagine Elfman composed much (if any) alts if he walked off the production. But 3 absolutely has the material to receive such a lengthy set. Let's just hope we get lucky!
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Groovygoth666 in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    Holy. Shit.
     
    THREE DISCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    This is simply a dream come true! To actually hear the full score in not-ancient MP3 form! I am enough of a nitpicker to see that it looks like it's missing the film insert for Costume Montage, but that means very little to me ultimately! Am curious about the alts for New Powers and Backyard Connection, as the film does use bits that aren't on the leak, so it could be from those.
     
    And I'm near absolutely certain that the alt for Costume Montage is the same one that Elfman used to have on his website (only without the crappy 2000s internet compression hopefully):
     
    Definitely want to hear the other alts as well!
     
    With this, Spidey 2 and 3 would have to be 4 discs each! Well, maybe less so 2, as I can't imagine Elfman composed much (if any) alts if he walked off the production. But 3 absolutely has the material to receive such a lengthy set. Let's just hope we get lucky!
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    HunterTech got a reaction from enderdrag64 in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    Holy. Shit.
     
    THREE DISCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    This is simply a dream come true! To actually hear the full score in not-ancient MP3 form! I am enough of a nitpicker to see that it looks like it's missing the film insert for Costume Montage, but that means very little to me ultimately! Am curious about the alts for New Powers and Backyard Connection, as the film does use bits that aren't on the leak, so it could be from those.
     
    And I'm near absolutely certain that the alt for Costume Montage is the same one that Elfman used to have on his website (only without the crappy 2000s internet compression hopefully):
     
    Definitely want to hear the other alts as well!
     
    With this, Spidey 2 and 3 would have to be 4 discs each! Well, maybe less so 2, as I can't imagine Elfman composed much (if any) alts if he walked off the production. But 3 absolutely has the material to receive such a lengthy set. Let's just hope we get lucky!
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Brando in Danny Elfman's SPIDER-MAN (2002) - NEW! 3-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)   
    Holy. Shit.
     
    THREE DISCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    This is simply a dream come true! To actually hear the full score in not-ancient MP3 form! I am enough of a nitpicker to see that it looks like it's missing the film insert for Costume Montage, but that means very little to me ultimately! Am curious about the alts for New Powers and Backyard Connection, as the film does use bits that aren't on the leak, so it could be from those.
     
    And I'm near absolutely certain that the alt for Costume Montage is the same one that Elfman used to have on his website (only without the crappy 2000s internet compression hopefully):
     
    Definitely want to hear the other alts as well!
     
    With this, Spidey 2 and 3 would have to be 4 discs each! Well, maybe less so 2, as I can't imagine Elfman composed much (if any) alts if he walked off the production. But 3 absolutely has the material to receive such a lengthy set. Let's just hope we get lucky!
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Once in Indiana Jones 5 (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    That's not a refutation of the fact that one screenwriter was only hired to punch up a largely already thought up narrative. I'm likely being too dense by taking the hyperbole seriously, but mostly because I find the foundation of the argument a bit lacking/questionable.
     
    Really need to find new hobbies.....
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Once in Indiana Jones 5 (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    And you know that how? Last I checked: she was brought on from a personal recommendation by Craig, and would've been partly responsible for the scenes in Cuba (you know, the ones people think are the best in the film) as a result of most of the story already being written.
     
    People are allowed to dislike things, yet it's easy to feel like someone shat on their cereal with some of these opinions. Get a new bowl, I guess?
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Once in Indiana Jones 5 (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    Okay, is there anything PWB has done that one would consider bad? Or is it purely just the "woman lead in a modern Disney production" thing?
     
    Huh, she was the Droid lady in Solo. I did remember that character not sitting well with some.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Mattris in Rian Johnson developing a fourth Star Wars trilogy... Oh my..   
    Very flawed comparison, as I would think there's a great difference between the way interpersonal relationships between the elite and the small can pan out, versus the literal rise of fascism per a dictator manipulating multiple parties for his own gain. I guess one could be perceived as a specific brand of ideology that would ruffle the feathers of some groups, but there's more of a human element present that makes it only really a part of the narrative than the main takeaway (especially when much of the cast do have their distinct motivations despite what ties them all together).
     
    Of course, because of the way SW is presented, it's definitely something you pick up on more later on, rather than it being the thing it immediately hits you with. I guess in that respect, it's a more universal product, and yet KO is still primarily about the whodunit than whatever details it gives to some of the characters.
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    HunterTech reacted to Richard Penna in Bear McCreary's The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings of Power (2022)   
    Legal reasons were stated for why Shore's themes couldn't appear, not why Shore couldn't/didnt score the show.
     
    The sooner you accept the situation and just ignore McCreary's score the better. We all have scoring assignments that were disappointing to us but we don't repeatedly post offensive sentiments towards the composer.
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    HunterTech got a reaction from Gabriel Bezerra in Indiana Jones 5 (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    If they're gonna go as far as to say only Harrison Ford can be Indy, then I'm pretty sure they would want to avoid anything that might rob the final installment of any gravitas. After all, they did specifically end KotCS by ensuring audiences Ford will still be the lead after that tease with Shia.
     
    Granted, since this is the director of Logan, I could maybe see this being a legitimate concern based on knowing Mangold's filmography, but I sincerely doubt that's what is happening here. At most, she'll get a Disney+ spin off at some point in the future if the character is liked enough.
     
    (Also, fairly certain Bridge's contributions to the NTTD script were the most liked parts of that movie, if she's also part of the concern.)
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