TheAvengerButton
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Love those! I should get around to organizing my Emperor's Tomb sound files sometime to actually make a cohesive soundtrack. If anyone has any tips on that, that would be great.
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I'm glad to hear Return is so good, that's my favorite movie score and I'm always clamboring to get the best version of that soundtrack I can get, having already owned the 2016 Ulimate Collection version and the RCA edition--which I still appreciate for the amount of music on there. But looking at the tracks for this release, complete with the extra music on the fourth disc, it seems all of the major highlights are there for the score, so I think I'll be pretty happy with this set.
But, of course, I'll have the Star Wars and Empire scores as well, which are phenomenal.
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On 19/01/2024 at 10:15 AM, Tydirium said:
Jedi: Survivor wasn’t the LSO; it was a contracted freelance orchestra.
I was not aware!
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8 hours ago, Tydirium said:
Are we sure it’s the LSO? At least from the horn section, looks like London studio players to me.
Given the majority of Haab's Star Wars work has been with the LSO (outside of The Old Republic and Squadrons) this one will most likely be no different.
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The thing I appreciate most about The Rise of Skywalker is that it affirms a big theme of the entire series that was established all the way back in The Phantom Menace--the idea that you can't and shouldn't always rely on a governing body to take care of all of your problems for you. Queen Amidala learns that the thing she was putting all of her hopes in--the Republic--was never going to be able to help her rescue her people. So what did she do? She did it herself. Her sin through the rest of the trilogy was that she didn't learn from that experience--instead of continuing that independence of thought, she bought into the Republic wholesale foolishly hoping to change it from within. This lesson is continued in a big way with the Rebellion--despite their mission being to restore the Republic, which is still an admirable position to take. The Rebellion was an alliance of different rebellions and when Jyn Erso learned that she couldn't rely on the Rebellion to help her take the Death Star plans she formed her own coilition to take them herself, and in doing so she inspired the rest of the Rebellion to shed their fear and make a move.
In The Force Awakens, it is Leia who forms her own breakaway organization--The Resistence--after she learns that she can't rely on the Republic to save itself from the threat of the First Order. And the Resistance struggles to inspire the free peoples of the Galaxy to stand up for themselves instead of living in fear--until the final moments of The Rise of Skywalker when the Resistance does what Leia did, what Jyn Erso did, what Padme did before them--they showed the Galaxy through their leadership that evil could be stood up to without having a crutch and relying on a power that is unwilling to help itself.
Whether this was intentional (and on some level, it is because it's baked into the story, but what I mean by this statement is 'whether this is a call back to the specific ideas brought up in the Prequels and the original films/Rogue One') remains to be seen, but it works so well as the conclusion to a thematic arc that starts all the way back in Episode I.
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The Rise of Skywalker is my second favorite Star Wars film behind Return of the Jedi if that tells anyone anything.
Love the score, though I don't know if I especially like it over the score for The Last Jedi--and by that I mean I think there's equal pros and cons to both.
The Force Awakens might STILL be my favorite of the sequel scores though. But I'm not a Star Wars hater. I love all the new Star Wars content that's coming out so I'll gladly contribute to Appreciation threads and enchantment threads.
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As someone who likes to think they are more fair on the non-Williams Star Wars scores than some others here (and that's not a criticism of other users here) I have to say that the Andor and Obi-Wan scores (outside of Williams' theme) are big nothing burgers. The Andor score especially is just not there and Obi-Wan's score sounds too much like a generic cop show soundtrack. So my ranking would be:
1. Ahsoka
2. The Mandalorian Season 1/3
3. Tales of the Jedi
4. The Mandalorian Season 2
5. The Book of Boba Fett
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3 hours ago, Tallguy said:There was a bit that was pretty clearly based on Vampire Hunters. IIRC it's somewhere in the Isla de Muerta bits. But yes, The Storm is in there as well.
Oh, I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I can see the similarity for sure.
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On 02/09/2022 at 6:34 PM, Tallguy said:
Dracula was one of the most disconcerting temps that I can think of.
Is the Dracula temp taken from the Storm que? That's the only similarity I can think of between the two scores off the top of my head.
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This is amazing.
I have still yet to give this score a full listen besides a few highlights. I've been B A L L S D E E P in Squadrons, taking notes on that.
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On 19/11/2023 at 3:06 PM, Drew said:
Orchestral Tools' Berlin Series is 50 percent off! First time in two years. I picked up Berlin Symphonic Strings, which I've wanted since it came out three years ago. This is the cheapest it's ever been (around $300 at the exchange rate) It may have some programming quirks, but tonally, it's the best-sounding strings I've ever heard. They sound a bit thin in some of the demos but that's because the demos are not mixed well. The mics provided can give a fabulous wide sound. I think layering this with something like Cinematic Studio Strings would be magic. I also may pick up Berlin Percussion and skip Musio this year. Since my brass sound is rooted in Berlin Brass, it makes sense to have as much as my orchestra as possible be based in the Teldex studio.
Anyway, I had projects where I was using wet Berlin Brass (a fabulous sound) and it just drowned out the dry strings like CSS and they were hard to hear. I will no longer have that problem.
Some people complain about the SINE Player, but I personally like it. The mic merge feature is amazing. It lets you download as many (or as little) mics as you want. Then when you mix them to your content, it lets you bounce a mix to use as one signal. As in, you can have a fully mixed instrument with the RAM usage of one mic! This is huge for me and it's a shame Spitfire didn't put any of that stuff into their player.
Nice! I just picked up Areia strings by Audio Imperia. I really dig Nucleus as an all-in-one orchestra and while it's not the most emotive out of the box, I can still make it sing. Plus, for writing John Williams type material Audio Imperia is actually pretty nice. But now that I have Areia strings, I feel like I can get even more out of Nucleus by expanding the strings. Now, if Audio Imperia can make dedicated woodwind and brass libs, I would be very happy.
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16 hours ago, InTheCity said:
The first CD i ever remember having was "The Very Best Of the Boston Pops" - tried to do some Golden age stuff mixed with the Williams Pops sound of that era
This was absolutely wonderful. Thanks for sharing it, I think you did a perfect job of capturing the feel of one of my favorite eras of movie music.
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The libraries from Cinesamples are only outdated in their UI and playability, but the sounds contained are still top-tier, IMO.
Meanwhile, over at 8dio they have some crazy deals right now. Just got their Liberis choir for 38 bucks. They were giving away their Hybrid drums and the 1928 Steinway for free, there are several other libraries that are discounted like hell right now. I really like their stuff and for the price you can't go wrong.
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If I were you, I'd check out an Ostinato Brass library. The ones from Sonokinetic sound decent. Audio Imperia brass is great, I'm pretty sure they have an ostinato brass library separate from Jaeger or Nucleus but when I use Nucleus I'm able to just use the staccatisimo patches to create the exact sound I want. Hasn't faltered for me thus far.
The Audio Imperia library I'm thinking of is Fluid Brass. I haven't actually tried either of these suggestions myself, just have them bookmarked for when I have enough spending money for them--but these are their own thing and you don't have to buy a whole new sample library just to get that sound you want.
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The 'verbs I have are ValhallaRoom and Waves, where I use my Todd AO IR. Otherwise I'm the same, using the built-ins.
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14 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:
"... reverb on a bus"?
What on earth are you talking about?
Please explain.
Dude I can't explain, that's my problem. I know that buses in a DAW are something that you can connect one effect to multiple instrument tracks and that apparently they are somehow different than a FX track that you can also connect to multiple instrument tracks, but apparently putting effects on a bus creates a different sound than just putting it on the instrument track and I don't know why that is.
But my point was, buses kinda suck and they don't give me the sound I want.
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Speaking of reverb...
...I only recently figured out that if I put my preferred reverb on a bus, it completely drowns my instruments, but if I put it on an actual instrument in my DAW (Studio One) the instrument sits nicely on top of the reverb and creates a much nicer sound.
I'm not great on the production side of things so I don't know why this is the case. I just wish that I could drop my reverb on my bus without having to tweak it for an endless amount of time instead of tweaking the reverb up front and sitting my instruments on top of it. Luckily, I am not actually putting reverb on my tracks a whole lot (I love the Todd-AO impulse and I actually use it whenever I need a reverb) because I like the prebuilt reverb on all of my orchestral libraries (my main is Nucleus, I know it's limited in articulations but with a little ingenuity I can actually get a lot of great sound out of it) so I only use reverb to match on a select small number of instruments, affording me the opportunity to just throw it on the instrument track itself and move on.
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On 26/09/2023 at 12:34 AM, JTW said:
May I ask how old you are?
I am 33--old enough to have watched the original Star Wars movies as they were originally released without changes, although the Special Edition theatrical releases would shortly follow. Being a young fan in the '90s was glorious. The Nintendo 64 would come out just shortly after that and I'd scoop up Star Wars Rogue Squadron and Shadows of the Empire, which remains one of my favorite games.*
*And I have a huge soft spot for McNeely's soundtrack. Still some of my absolute favorite Star Wars music outside of the films.
- JTN and Mr. Hooper
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I love everything Star Wars. It doens't take much for me to enjoy them, they've always been silly and fun films. Hell, the original film has a first third that is about two robots in a desert but people think that's a pinnacle of cinema over some of the other stuff in the Saga? Weird priorities. I'll take it all. I've heard every criticism across the board but these films are still enjoyable to me.
And The Rise of Skywalker is my favorite film in the Sage behind Return of the Jedi. Top three films for me are Return, Rise, and Revenge of the Sith. All thirds. Go figure.
Rebels is good, Clone Wars is good, I've had a great time with Mandolorian, Ahsoka is the absolute tits. Also, Kevin Kiner, Ludwig Goransson and Gordy Haab are successfully carrying on John Williams' spirit.
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Good chance that we are going to get some original Lando material then. I know that there is precedence with the Bespin music and I would love to hear that but the temptation is going to be too strong to have something new in place of what is traditionally associated with that character.
On the plus side, since this is a movie project I don't think we will get any of the subpar TV show soundscapes. The score will be cinematic. It may even be romantic, given the character and his charms.
I'm tempted to write my own Lando theme now, excuse me. I'll share it when I'm done.
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I want to hear the Bespin March somewhere in there.
Did Lando have thematic material in Solo? It's been a while since I listened to that soundtrack.
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Gordy Haab & Stephen Barton's STAR WARS JEDI: SURVIVOR (2023)
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I've been listening to this score off and on and where the orchestration is top notch for this sort of thing, the mix on this album is something else and it's added a bit of different energy to the proceedings. Makes everything 11.