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Disney.

It was clearly just a joke.

He destroyed the Sith in ROTJ after he was redeemed and became Anakin Skywalker again... And THE CLONE WARS is just as canon as the films; not to mention George Lucas worked on the show in-depth with Dave Filoni. George wanted that Mortis arc to stand as concrete canon proof that Anakin is indeed the Chosen One, because a bunch of people kept questioning it even though he thought that it was pretty clear in ROTJ (Anakin's redemption) that Yoda had been wrong in ROTS—and that Anakin was the Chosen One. So, he clarified it in the show, and yet you and others are sitting here in 2019 still trying to act like Anakin can't be? I honestly don't get it. What is it that people have against this character, so much, that they can't handle for him to just... be the Chosen One after all? Lol
 
Never said you should devote your lives to children's films; just that you should watch the films and pay attention... If you watch I-VI, you see that the big payoff is that Anakin does wind up fulfilling the prophecy, in ROTJ. This is obvious from watching them in order; never said you had to devote your lives or explore the lore in-depth to come to this conclusion. But my point is, even if you didn't pick up on it, George has said as much on other occasions: Anakin is the Chosen One. The prophecy was not misread. But my gosh, why must everything be deconstructed nowadays? Why can't Anakin just stay the Chosen One...? It seems like there are people hellbent on undoing everything that people enjoy or value, from the past. Disney promised to respect George's characters, intentions for the story and the canon. If they aren't doing that after all, why shouldn't fans feel upset at that?
 
It's extremely weird to me that these days there are people openly advocating for Disney to just not adhere to the canon/lore... SW has a very extensive, rich canon and a Story Group to help see to it that the canon remains consistent. So how are people like you saying that they should just disregard it, and cheaply hand Anakin's victory to a new Disney character? I don't get it. I mean really, imagine if I just picked some random fandom, and started advocating that the franchise makers ought to start pandering to people like me, who don't give a crap about that fandom's past lore. Do you think the longtime fans who consume all the franchise media, would be happy with that?
 
There are people who do view SW as their #1 hobby and who read all the comics and books (heck, even I don't), and who spend countless hours editing Wookieepedia pages. They are the core fans, and the franchise would do well not to cast them aside like they don't matter. It is not difficult to live up to the promise of respecting George's vision for SW, and yet Disney appears to be actively trashing it. I frankly don't give a crap what people like you think about SW, when your thoughts primarily involve you wanting Disney to stop caring about fans like myself.

Could New Theme #2 be a theme for the trio? Sense it appears when the trio is together in the new clip. 

Couldn't agree more. I'm not usually one to encourage dwelling too heavily on what could have been, but in this case I really think it's worthwhile to entertain those "What If?" scenarios just so we can fully appreciate what (as other users have aptly called them) a gift these scores are, not just for having received them but for having received them in the way that we did. 

So first, there was the very unfortunate, grim, but ultimately quite possible reality that Williams either wasn't physically or mentally able to do these scores or, even worse, had passed away years before these films were even made. Abrams directs the first installment to the new trilogy and his longtime collaborator, Michael Giacchino, does the score instead. The films are made and we are left longing to hear what Williams could have done with these new films. Unfortunately, we'll never know. We sit listening to the new scores wondering what Williams could have done with a theme for Rey, or what sound Williams would have gone for for a character like Kylo. 
 
But that didn't happen! Williams remains as mentally and physically fit as ever. However, he decides he doesn't have any interest in scoring Episode VII or agrees only to write a couple themes to kickstart the new trilogy. "I don't want to steal the spotlight from this new generation of talents," Williams politely declines. "I'm too old for that scene. They need someone younger, more energetic, more talented than myself." 

Nope! Williams decides to score the whole film. But maybe he only scores Episode VII and then passes the baton to a new voice to finish the trilogy? Or, even worse, maybe something happens to Williams that makes him unable to finish the trilogy? 

Yeah, no. Williams, nearing the age of 88, persists, alive and healthy in both body and mind, and closes out yet another Star Wars trilogy.  But maybe the result is severely lacking? Williams scored all 3 films, sure, but nowhere did he manage to even once capture the spirit of the earlier entries, not once did he wow with vibrant new thematic statements or invoke that classic Star Wars-ian feel of old that he used to be able to pull off oh so well? The scores lack an energy, lack imagination. They stand as proof that Williams should have hung up the baton years ago; that the idea to hand-off the job of scoring these 200 million dollar films to a man soon to be pushing 90 was a mistake seriously lacking in judgement. Where is that Williams spark, that magic? 

But maybe that doesn't happen either? Maybe, just maybe, Williams does do all three scores? And maybe, while arguments can be made as to the overall quality of them compared to the other 6, the scores stand as proof that Williams, and only Williams, could have delivered on that trademark Star Wars sound for these films, while standing as a continued testament to his talented musical capabilities and cementing his status even further as a legendary figure in the pages of musical history. Maybe Williams actually was able to pull it off, in a way that only Williams could? Maybe we're left wondering how we could have gotten so lucky? 

In all the possible scenarios of what could have happened, the one that seems most unlikely to me is that last one. And, holy fuck, that's the one we got. 

"I know you just finished composing YOUR LAST STAR WARS score, you must be SOOOO SAD it is over now!!!"
 

 

I've said before that the odds of an 87 year old scoring one of the biggest movies of the year are really very low. There are just so many mental and physical ailments that would prevent an 87 year old from continuing to work, including the fact that he is about 10 years older than the average life expectancy.  John Barry and Jerry Goldsmith both died in their 70s. We really are very lucky John is still with us and available to conclude the Skywalker saga that he helped start over 40 years ago.

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That's a good point I hadn't even thought about, that he's not just in great physical shape for his age, but astonishing mental shape

Doubt it. This obviously takes place in the first 15 minutes of the film and is shown to us to just get fans interested and have people talk about it. 

Oh definitely. I like the way JJ directs these movies. He has a good sense of pacing and gets good performances from his actors. The bad aspects of most of his recent works is almost entire the scripts. 

Disney should de-canonize their atrocious trilogy. 

Fleeing from Kimiji

Operation Break Into Broxton's House is under way.

In TESB, he does actually refer to Anakin as such: "The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi."
 
 
Wow. It's blowing my mind just how many people seem to be ignorant on this subject. Never came to pass either way??? Anakin destroyed the Sith in ROTJ; that was the fulfillment of the prophecy... George meant it so that if you watch I-VI, you would think: "Hm, the Jedi seem to sense darkness in Anakin. Seems like they wonder if maybe he won't be the one to fulfill the prophecy after all?" *Fast-forward to ROTJ* "Whoa! Vader just turned back to the light side and destroyed the Sith! I guess the prophecy was right all along!"
 
You were supposed to be able to understand this on your own just from viewing the saga... But for the incessant doubters, George used his involvement in THE CLONE WARS show to further clarify that Anakin is in fact the Chosen One, with the Mortis arc: in which the living embodiment of the Force straight-up says that Anakin is the Chosen One.
 
The fact that we are now getting articles written by corporate shills wondering if Kylo or Rey is the actual Chosen One, is ridiculous. When will people accept that Anakin is the Chosen One, and stop trying to shoehorn others into that role? At this point, it seems like Disney is trying to steal it from Anakin and hand that title to one of their new characters. It shows a complete lack of respect for Lucas' intentions.

He wasn't!

I don't even miss that place anymore. The amount of unstoppable pop-ups was just insane.

Wow, why would you think that I was implying that?

Abrams also claimed Cumberbatch would absolutely not be playing Khan.

I like the idea people like Mattris have, that they believe Disney's marketing strategy for the conclusion to the whole Skywalker saga is "Let's make the whole world believe that the movie is in fact utter trash, and you shouldn't see it". 
 
By the way, this is the stupidest shit I've read: >Rey then shoots a torrent of lightning into the sky and disables the rest of the Sith Armada. The remaining Resistance ships finish them off. Victory ensues, and everyone cheers for Rey.
 

The way Powell's involvement with Williams was spun PR-wise indicates that he was happy and probably had more trust in Powell's musical abilities (to lt him do stuff like the long suite of old themes). It would be interesting to know if after RO Williams demanded a list of suitable candidates and actually listened to their stuff.
 
Because i think it unlikely that he ever would listen to film composers' work for musical enjoyment.
 
Probably for you, but rest assured that Giacchino's limited abilities - he's only well-versed in FILM music vocabulary - doesn't sit well with a musician like JW.

What are you so angry about? I'm telling you what I heard in LA seeing as I also work in the industry (lord it upsets some people when I say that but oh well)
I said Allegedly because I did not hear it obviously from the horses mouth (Williams) I'm just relaying what was said from reliable sources who have no interest in either party in any other way. Is it too unfathomable that Williams did not like the score. It's not exactly that musical in many ways. The guy can hardly modulate..... Please, lol..... Plus Williams is notorious to be very difficult about his own music to the point of being overly precious, he's not as "nice" as people make him out to be when it comes to his own stuff. Many have said that in the past which is why in most sequels you hear his music as is when it is possible, It is hardly every re-orchestrated. If it is, he would prefer to be involved and make sure it puts his in the best light. The Vader part of RO in the end was dreadful musically, I would not be surprised if that is what some of the complaint was about, but that is completely my own thought. I did not hear what parts he did not like, just that he had gone to Kennedy about it.

It's not that Williams has any opinion or cares about Gia's own work, he hated what he did to HIS themes. Does not want him anywhere near his themes again, is what I heard from a few people in LA, and allegedly he said that to Kennedy. 
 
As for Solo. Love the score!