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    GerateWohl got a reaction from ThePenitentMan1 in JAWS - 2015 Intrada 2CD Release (Complete film tracks & original LP re-recording)   
    Soundtrack Corner just cancelled my order because they didn't get enough copies. 
    That's dis-ap-poin-ting. 

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    GerateWohl got a reaction from Andy in JAWS - 2015 Intrada 2CD Release (Complete film tracks & original LP re-recording)   
    Soundtrack Corner just cancelled my order because they didn't get enough copies. 
    That's dis-ap-poin-ting. 

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    GerateWohl got a reaction from JTN in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Why silly? I think, this is a topic worth discussing. For me your example we always an evidence, that Goldsmith wasn't super fornd of when directors asked him to write something like Williams did for a previous film. 
    Goldsmith best efforts were achieved, when he wasn't asked to "do the Williams". 
    Alien, The Omen, Poltergeist, Patton, Chinatown, Planet of the Apes, Basic Instict, Total Recall, Legend. For all of these there aren't any comparable Williams scores (at least none that existed beforehand). And these are all great.
     
    But in all of your examples not only Goldsmith's scores but also the respective movies are inferior to the Williams scored movies.
    So, it is not even in that regard Goldsmith fault.
    Why write something super original for a pale copy of a movie (even though Goldsmith did that often enough).
     
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    That reminds me, I never owned any Goldsmith LP apart from Legend.
    Later from a friend I made CD copies of Poltergeist, Total Recall and Mom and Dad Save the World.
    But my first original CD was this one.
     

     
    And that was the real game changer for me. Studs Lonigan became one of my favourite scores immediately. 
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from Tallguy in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    That reminds me, I never owned any Goldsmith LP apart from Legend.
    Later from a friend I made CD copies of Poltergeist, Total Recall and Mom and Dad Save the World.
    But my first original CD was this one.
     

     
    And that was the real game changer for me. Studs Lonigan became one of my favourite scores immediately. 
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    GerateWohl reacted to Bayesian in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    I imagine my first exposure to Goldsmith was Gremlins. The main theme was super catchy and stuck with me for years. However, I didn't pay any attention to who wrote it (just like I never cared at the time to learn about who wrote the BTTF music, which also stuck with me instantly). 
     
    Goldsmith is a tricky one for me. I know he was super talented and I very much respect that. But overall, his music leaves me weirdly indifferent, or even antagonized at times. It's like I can appreciate at arm's length his proficiency but with relatively few exceptions, his melodies and thematic development don't click with me and his scores don't linger in my mind. In some cases, like Air Force One, his music just gets really grating on the ear. And I've tried to like him, believe me, ever since joining this forum, where lots of folks are deeply fond of his oeuvre.
     
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    GerateWohl reacted to Jurassic Shark in Soundtracks, Compilations, or other recently purchased Music   
    Thanks for your sacrifice. 
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from pete in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Why am I asking this? Because for me this wasn't love at first sight.
    Since the age of 11 I was visiting record stores and scrolling through the soundtrack department.
    I was the greatest Star Wars fan on earth and a big science fiction fan, too.
    So I recognized the compoer name on records like Alien or Star Trek TMP, which probably was the first movie with a Goldsmith score, that I had ever seen.
    Later I saw Logran's Run (on TV) and Gremlins. But his scores more or less did their job.
    Different from John Williams, who's scores made me immediately want to listen to them outside the movie.
    Tbh, the first time I actually recognized the Goldsmith Star Trek theme was at the title credits of the Star Trek Next Generation TV Show, so little of an impression it made on me, when I watched the movie.
     
    I neither watched Alien nor The Omen or Poltergeist. I was too young at the time.
    The score that made me want to dig deeper into his work was "Legend".
    I bought the record more or less by the cover.
    I had iked The Last Unicorn, this was again a fantasy story with unicorns and a red bull, I like Ridley Scott's previous movie "Bladerunner", so I was hooked and really fell in love with the score. Luckily I didn't watch the movie at that time.
     
    For a long time Legend was the only Goldsmith score I owned. Finally a broader interest in Goldsmith was woken up by my first discussions with two other movie score conaisseurs, which I met in my 20s. Studs Lonigan, the two Poltergeists, The Omen, Mom and Dad Save the World, Total Recall, Planet of the Apes and a big deal was later L.A. Confidential. And the Alien expansion.
     
    Still I would say, that I admire much of his music, but I don't necessarily love it.
    Overall I would call his movie music brillantly operational.
     
    Or to say it differently:
     
    Is he one of my favourite composers? No.
    s he one of my favourite movie composer? Yes.
     
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from A24 in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Why silly? I think, this is a topic worth discussing. For me your example we always an evidence, that Goldsmith wasn't super fornd of when directors asked him to write something like Williams did for a previous film. 
    Goldsmith best efforts were achieved, when he wasn't asked to "do the Williams". 
    Alien, The Omen, Poltergeist, Patton, Chinatown, Planet of the Apes, Basic Instict, Total Recall, Legend. For all of these there aren't any comparable Williams scores (at least none that existed beforehand). And these are all great.
     
    But in all of your examples not only Goldsmith's scores but also the respective movies are inferior to the Williams scored movies.
    So, it is not even in that regard Goldsmith fault.
    Why write something super original for a pale copy of a movie (even though Goldsmith did that often enough).
     
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    GerateWohl reacted to Badzeee in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    First viewing of ALIEN in Zürich, 1979, age 13. (It was Ab 16 Jahren; I shouldn't have got in but maybe I looked older than I was and anyway back then, no-one cared.) Part of the experience was that weird bubbly drone Goldsmith uses when the creature is lurking, and it scared the shit out of me. I mean, the whole filmic experience did, but afterwards I kept thinking about that weird noise, which was part of the music, and I couldn't equate it with any musical instrument that I knew. I was just beginning to buy soundtrack albums - only John Williams and John Barry at this point - so this guy was something new and initially, I didn't go for it, holding off buying the OST for some arcane teenage reason that I don't recall. Then I recognised his name on Star Trek: The Motion Picture when I first saw that in early 1980 and he began to be one of those composers I "knew." 
     
    I was a bit disappointed when I finally bought the ALIEN soundtrack album a few years later, because it sounded so different to what was in the film (and we all know how that story ended). 
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    GerateWohl reacted to Tom Guernsey in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Star Trek, Star Trek, Star Trek... and, as if by magic, he and his music appeared in my life. I remember being quite confused as to why Star Trek 2 didn't use his theme from TMP. I feel like he's slowly crept in to usurp JW as my favourite film composer, but let's call it a tie so everyone is equally happy/disappointed.
     
    I actually assumed the title of the thread meant encounter in person in which case it would be at the Museum of the Moving Image in, I guess 1997, around the time The Edge was released as he gave a talk about it alongside director Lee Tamahori (before he disappointed us all with Die Another Die... or The Another The as it is in Germany - sorry the Simpsons). They showed the opening titles with the Last of the Mohicans temp tracked, then with Jerry's (excellent) main titles music. I do remember Jerry expressing his dislike of temp tracking but otherwise talked generally about how he worked with the director and his composing process etc. Sadly too long ago to remember much of the details.
     
    However, I did get to shake his hand and he kindly signed Night Crossing for me. I have no idea why I chose that over TMP or something a bit more famous... but it's obviously a much treasured possession. Mr Southall went to the same event and I think he got Powder signed (as it had large white areas which seemed better suited to autographs from cranky, pony-tailed composers). However, we both agreed that he definitely signed it Jerry Dobson, which became something of a running joke during our time at uni.
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    GerateWohl reacted to Mephariel in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    It was probably King Solomon's Mine. And I am going to double down and say the main theme is one of his best (Some people make fun of it as a parody Indy score). 
     
     
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    GerateWohl reacted to Corellian2019 in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Without knowing who Jerry Goldsmith was, my first encounter with his work was probably Mulan or The Mummy (and the Universal logo of course!)
     
    Once I knew the name Goldsmith, my next encounter was Total Recall. And I've been a lifelong fan since
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    GerateWohl reacted to Corellian2019 in Which Soundtrack Albums Do You Regret not Having Purchased, when They were Available at a Reasonable Price?   
    This guy is selling it at a reasonable price from what seems like a stockpile of extra copies. That's where I got my copy
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    GerateWohl reacted to ThePenitentMan1 in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    That's an easy one for me.  The Secret of NIMH!
     
    Alright, technically, I did grow up with the Star Trek films in my childhood, and I liked TMP well enough, but I wasn't able to really appreciate it until much later, into my adulthood.
     
    NIMH was a film that I only remember seeing once in my childhood.  I was sick with something, and was watching the film in French for some reason.  (Mrs. Brisby saying "Merci...  boucoup" as Mr. Ages slammed the door in her face was the only thing I remember from that viewing.)
     
    Somewhere in my teenage years, I revisited the film, watching it pretty much for the first time.  The prologue was so haunting, and then the Main Title was so majestic!  But the horns at 0:48-0:57 here...  man, I could feel that in my heart!  Such beauty!  And that was only the first bit of the score that would make me feel that way!
     
     
    I remember thinking, during that first proper watch of the film, "Hmm, this music [the water mill shots during Allergic Reaction/Dragon Encounter] definitely stands out...  but I doubt I'm gonna get obsessed with it or anything."  I thought the same thing about the music for Kingdom Hearts, and yet here I am, loving both scores.
     
    I was actually afraid to look up NIMH's soundtrack for awhile (because of the tremendously powerful effect it has on me), but when I did finally look up the OST on YouTube, I had a few...  encounters I'm less than fond of with the uploader of the OST.  Mostly the younger, immature me complaining about the presentation of the music, which the uploader had no control over.  Blech.
     
    Of course, the uploader also claimed that every piece of music heard in the film was on the OST, which I knew for a fact wasn't true.  The "Rough Complete Score" videos I did for NIMH were pretty much me trying to show that guy that he was wrong about the OST containing all of the film's music.
     
    Later, I found Alien on Intrada's website, which advertised it as being a complete Jerry Goldsmith score.  Since my only other Goldsmith was NIMH, I really wanted to have something complete from Jerry.  And I watched the film around that time and liked it.  So I jumped on it, and I got myself a second Goldsmith score.
     
    I later properly got into TMP, first through downloading the 3-CD LLL (It was out of print by then), then through properly buying the 2-CD reissue when it finally came out.  And later after that, I got the Intrada TFF.  And that's...  pretty much it when it comes to my Goldsmith collection.
     
    Hmm...  NIMH's a score that I really only save for special occasions.  Now might be a good time for it.
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from ConorPower in John Williams on Variety Cover (article & video)   
    Sorry. I don't want anymore franchise blockbuster scores by Williams.
    The only franchise sequel, that I would love to be scored by him is Tintin 2.
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    GerateWohl reacted to Bespin in Which Soundtrack Albums Do You Regret not Having Purchased, when They were Available at a Reasonable Price?   
    Is this an additional thread where I can bore you with the greatest tragedy of my recent life as a collector of film music CDs?
     
    Here's a clue...
     
    Mr. Chippy...
     

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    GerateWohl reacted to Thor in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    I can't remember.
     
    I know for a fact I saw films like GREMLINS, POLTERGEIST and ALIEN in the 80s, long before I had any kind of film music interest, so I wouldn't really pay attention to the music.
     
    I think the first Goldsmith CD I got was CONGO in 1995, even if I had been well aware of him and heard his scores in movies, for years. Well, sorta. I bought it at the local record store for a gift card, then realized I should have gotten THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS instead, went back to the record store and exchanged it for the Elfman. An exchange I don't regret, as it helped cement my love of Elfman.
     
    But to the question - it must be sometime there around 1990-1993 or thereabouts, when my film music interest exploded. That's about as specific as I can get.
     
     
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    GerateWohl reacted to Edmilson in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Well, my first contact with him was probably as a kid, when I saw stuff like Looney Tunes: Back in Action or The Mummy...
     
    But as a film score fan, it went mostly like this: when I was 15/16, I began as a Zimmer/Horner fan, listening to their scores on the internet. Then I decided to explore more of this new wonderful world that was opening, and went looking for blogs and websites that talked about the subject. Back then there was this film music review website in Portuguese (I think the only one of its kind), and it was through them that I got to know who were the "great ones" (not just Williams, but also John Barry, Elmer Bernstein, etc).
     
    So I was like "huh, this Goldsmith fella is very well regarded among film music experts. I'll give him a shot!".
     
    Then, one of my best memories involving film music was in the final days of 2011 and first days of 2012, when teenage me listened to Star Trek: TMP and Total Recall. I was like "Wow! This guy is FUCKING AWESOME!". I had listened to parts of his Star Trek theme and really liked it, but when I heard the full score, it was a revelation. And Total Recall had what I thought was the best action music I ever heard. 
     
    To this day these two are not only some of my favorite Jerry scores but also two of my favorite film scores of all time. I think I'm gonna listen to them again any of these days...
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    GerateWohl reacted to Jay in What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?   
    Great question.  I wish I knew for sure what the first Goldsmith tune I actively heard was.
     
    For me, it MIGHT have been the Total Recall track on the Great Fantasy Adventure album
     
     
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from Marian Schedenig in Which Soundtrack Albums Do You Regret not Having Purchased, when They were Available at a Reasonable Price?   
    Sounds like a fair deal to me.
     
    Not in stock. But I could offer you Trope's kidney.
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    GerateWohl got a reaction from Naïve Old Fart in Which Soundtrack Albums Do You Regret not Having Purchased, when They were Available at a Reasonable Price?   
    Ok. I wasn't talking about a life crisis or something like that.
    This is nothing serious.
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