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It’s coming today instead!! Oh, it’s going to be a loooooong day at work.

No Yuppie Sounds?! For shame!!! but in all honesty it’s truly one of my favorites.

I’ve thought about that a lot. I’m probably going to listen to all three discs in order. It’s very tempting to go straight to the third disc but hearing the glistening that opens the prologue at the right speed is too alluring.

My boss gave me Wednesday and Thursday off this week and that’s never happened. Hook is due to arrive on Wednesday.

This is very hard to find for a decent price now. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to grab it when it was. Hopefully it will get a reprint one of these days. It should always be available to score fans. Some scores are just like that. I guess I’ll add Cutthroat to my list of most wanted re-issues, right next to 1941 and The Shadow.

It’s always dangerous when I have to wait a while for something to arrive in the mail, for example Hook. I always end up getting a little trigger happy and spendy. This time it was Star Trek. As of yesterday I only own Nemesis OST. I keep meaning to fix this and it keeps getting put off. Well I found an EBay deal for three OSTs for 18. Khan, Undiscovered Country and First Contact. Well, then it occurred to me that I have to get Insurrection so I at least have 8,9,10. So I bought that one for another 9. And I really should have Frontier as well. Now I’m just 1,3,4 and 7 away from owning all the original soundtrack releases. Well but then I couldn’t stop thinking about the newest remasterings of TMP and WOK we just got… so I bought those too from SAE. I am going to try to keep myself from buying more but one of these days Intrada is going to get a biiiig order from me with the complete 3,4,5 and 6 hitting the cart. I’m just hoping that day isn’t later today. Pray for me, JWFam

Two part question: do we know when Star Trek II is going to be back in stock on the LLL website? and if it is showing as available on Screen Archive, can I just grab it there? EDIT: I did not mean to post this in the JW Black Friday thread, my apologies. UPDATE: I bought it anyway. I had a hankering. We will see what happens.

Everytime this album ends I am just going to want to put it right back on again, I’m predicting it now.

Mine says Wednesday. I hope it gets bumped back again, originally it said Friday! I feel like my whole life is just waiting for Hook to arrive. Also, trying not to listen to Hook shouldn’t be this hard. I have a million things to listen to. And it’s been years since I’ve given it a good listen* and this is the perfect way to experience it again after all this time so I’m not ruining it. But it shouldn’t be this hard. It’s definitely given me even more love for Home Alone 2 (which has some Hook moments, mostly the Plaza Hotel and Toy Store cues.) *ooh, except for John Williams in Viennna. That has a Hook track and I spin that a LOT**. I guess I’m a liar **equals sooo much. I’m definitely a liar.

I would hope not. That’s the point: I’m not sure I’m in favor of pitch manipulation 😉 I found the wording a little confusing was all. I looked through the thread again and on FSM and it seems I wasn’t the only one who thought that might be the case. I’m glad it’s not. I’d still appreciate a podcast or interview to know more about this release. I’m a big James Horner fan, always interested in hearing more about the preservation of his work. I think it was just the specificity of language in the blurb mentioning the errant notes and high trumpet parts they needed to replace made it sound like they were replacing those specifically. (I would have saved that information for the liner notes and just said the bit about alternate takes personally. But I’m not “reading” the paragraph because I had a hard time reading the paragraph. Just stating why I think I was confused. Glad it’s not pitch manipulation.) Broadway albums have stated using auto-tune and we’ve seen it in movie soundtracks for a long time now. The last thing I need is for my orchestral performances to be getting pitch-shifted too.

Thanks. Yeah I was just re-reading it to see if I missed anything because a lot of people seem to have the other impression. like I said I don’t mind if another performance was spliced in, because even if they only take a few seconds, those seconds were performed as part of an organic take. I was just concerned that they were fixing specifically one wrong note or two through pitch manipulation. It wasn’t a deal breaker by any means but it just stuck out to me as something to ask about.

I would word it exactly how it was done. This wording sounds like specifically bad notes are being fixed and not bad takes. I’d have used the word take certainly and not “notes” I would have said “Due to many errant notes in a lot of the takes, modern technology allowed us to splice in better takes where necessary to create a more seamless performance without jarring mistakes” or something like that

The line “used to fix errant notes especially in the high trumpet parts” makes it seem like they are specifically fixing the note or trumpet part and not splicing in a whole section of a different take to fix it.

Yeah I was under the understanding it was pitch correction. If not, I would feel differently. I would like a definitive answer. Hopefully there’s a podcast or something I don’t mind splicing in other takes because at least they came from a performance. Just dialing a note up is what I don’t want happening

I’m not sure how I feel about fixing wrong notes with new technology. Does that mean a true expansion of what was actually recorded will never be released? I understand why someone would want to do this but it’s essentially auto-tune for instruments. Fixing pitch that had been warped due to years of damage? Sure. Lots of old historical recordings that would otherwise have been lost to time have been restored this way. Fixing pitch because the players were a little off on the day? Ehhhhhh. I know I personally would rather have the original performance, warts and all, ALL of the time. So while my personal jury is still out debating this issue, anyone have any thoughts about fixing errant notes with technology?

I’ve shipped!

I still say it all the time

I’m not listening until I see the film.

That’s what I am hoping. Hook is one of the scores that got me into collecting. I used to watch the movie just for the score. I was a child, mind you. Sometimes I’d just skip to keys scenes like The Face of Pan or the Never Feast or The Ultimate War. I finally got the OST as a gift right around 2001 or maybe a little earlier. I loved it but immediately noticed how much was missing. (At that time “The Stories are True” was one of my most wanted cues! Early Grail.) Then the hunt for its bootlegs in the early days of the internet was a quest I shared with multiple friends. I can still remember the excitement of reading track lists of bootlegs I hadn’t yet been able to find and wringing my little hands in frustrated glee. One of my friends and I met over him telling me he could get me a 4-disc complete Hook. I can remember the disappointment of finding out how many sound effects there still were… and that the extra tracks on the 4-disc bootleg were mostly the tracks from the Williams on Williams album. I can also remember spending hours editing together a version of the Ultimate War that was all one track… just to find a better one right after. These new memories will slot right in and I can’t wait. I really love this score. I’ve been craving some Yuppie Sounds.

If only this could be my first listen of Hook… instead it’s my 28547068745636786579th. But I am not listening to it again until it gets here. No Hook unless it’s Ultimate! I am only allowed its neighbors: John Fitzgerald Kennedy, one of the two Home Alones or Far and Away.

Mine is awaiting shipment but hasn’t shipped yet. Hopefully tomorrow morning, fingers crossed.

Im crossing my fingers and hoping the first shipment is able to be sent out early. Either way, I ordered around 7 am on Black Friday, it shouldn’t be long now before I see an email saying it’s been shipped.

So is that Toodles Theme? 😉

I believe it also appears near their final confrontation. I’ve always loosely thought of it as Hook vs Pan (or Pan vs Hook, if you prefer) Very excited to see the sanctioned theme names and descriptions in the booklet. I could be wrong!

There are so many things to be excited for, certainly. The more I look at the presentation, the more I like it. Originally I was a little weirded out by the additional music section but I think those tracks will play well after the main program. The End Credits has Tink and the Lost Boys Chase already so the additional music sort of adds on to be an extension of the end credits sampler. I also think the way each disc ends is very strong. That final Childhood theme statement of the Ultimate War will end disc 2 and then that great big vocal ending of Presenting the Hook ends disc 3! Two great and exciting thematic statements. I suspect it will always have me wanting to put disc one right back in again. I mentioned how the additional music section looks like it will play as a little extended credits sampler but the little bonus section at the end of disc 3 looks to be a little alternate arrival in Pirate Town. So we have the film version on Disc 1, the vocal version on Disc 2 with the song Low Below incorporated and then the Bonus section of Disc 3, instrumental but for the cries of “Hook” for a rousing finish. Have I mentioned how much time I’ve spent just reading the track list?