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  1. Why did their working relationship stop or end? I see that JW still uses Ross as an orchestrator. It seems odd if he did so many in the 90's and then he stopped working for Williams.
  2. Why does he continue to use William Ross then as an orchestrator? If he was used to how Pope worked wouldn't it be easier to just stay with him. I see that Ross has been with him ever since Pope departed. On another thread, it would be interesting to know how orchestrators are being paid. According to the AFM, it is by the page (four bars of music) which for a major motion picture wouldn't account for much in compensation. I wonder if they have a price or package payment set up as I don't think that many of them would just work for the standard union scale. Living in Hollywood, or
  3. Why did Pope stop working with Williams? I know that he did one arrangement for the new album with Mutter but beyond that I don't think that he has had any involvement with his scores.
  4. Has anyone ever seen one of William's sketches from his film scores? It would be interesting to have a comparison to what the initial version looks like and one after it has been orchestrated? How many films has Pope been listed as an orchestrator for Williams as either credited or uncredited? How long did he also use the services of Angela Morley?
  5. https://myscena.org/norman-lebrecht/lebrechts-album-of-the-week-john-williams-in-vienna-dg/ https://slippedisc.com/2020/09/we-review-john-williamss-one-star-wars/ I have posted the links to a classical music blogger's review of Williams and the Vienna Philharmonic. Have at it...
  6. Does anyone know about the Westlake College of Music that existed in California until the early 1960's. I heard that is was centered around popular music and also taught the Schillinger method of composition. Dick Grove taught there for a time and Henry Mancini was also a student there after getting out of the service.
  7. In 1948, the Williams family moved to Los Angeles where John attended North Hollywood High School, graduating in 1950. He later attended the University of California, Los Angeles, and studied composition privately with the Italian composer Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco.[11] Williams also attended Los Angeles City College for one semester, as the school had a Studio Jazz Band.[12] In 1951, Williams was drafted into the U.S. Air Force, where he played the piano, brass and conducted and arranged music for The U.S. Air Force Band as part of his assignments.[13] In a 2016 interview with the US Air
  8. The son of a CBS radio orchestra percussionist, Mr. Williams was born in Flushing in 1932 and started studying piano at the age of 6. His family moved to Los Angeles when he was in high school, and he subsequently attended UCLA and Los Angeles City College, concentrating on the study of orchestration. He also studied composition privately with Italian composer Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco. Serving in the U.S. Air Force during the Korean War, he played, conducted, and arranged music for military bands. In 1954, after having completed two years of military duty, he began his piano studies with long
  9. Here is Previn talking about Tedesco. Link to Youtube:
  10. No one really replied to the original question that I asked and most went off into tangents that were unrelated to the original posting. I read what was written and some of it is just plain silly. Tedesco taught numerous people and none of them are imitators of him of sound like one another. I don't Previn, Mancini, Riddle, or Goldsmith sounding like each other. He wasn't that type of individual or teacher. The other comments about how you can hear his self-study in his scores? Utter nonsense and the other comments about Beethoven, Mozart, and Haydn are ridiculous as well. William
  11. No, Williams does not posses a bachelor's degree in music or anything beyond ceremonial doctoral degrees. The Air Force didn't do correspondence courses in those days and neither did UCLA to earn a degree. You can even check this with statements made by Conrad Pope who said John has no formal degree. He was in their program for a short time and Julliard for only a year. They claim alumni due to his stature.
  12. I don't think that was while he was at UCLA which was no more than a year or so. Tedesco did teach at a college for an extended period of time until his death but not in the most traditional way. Honestly, I don't think Williams is being honest in his response. Previn studied with him for nearly five years and the movie about him isn't really that accurate. Mancini wasn't truthful about his time with him either in his biography. All the credit he was given was no more than a sentence or so. They want to appear to be self-made men or they learned on the fly which is nonsense.
  13. Does anyone know how long Williams studied with Tedesco? Were the lessons just composition or were they orchestration also? Anyone have real answers?
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