-
Posts
1,123 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
3
Reputation Activity
-
WampaRat reacted to BrotherSound in The Custom Covers Thread
In case this is useful to anyone else, I wanted to remove the "Expanded Archival Collection" border from Jim Titus' stunning cover for La-La Land Record's Empire of the Sun release, so here's my best attempt:
-
WampaRat reacted to crocodile in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
Also this:
This was actually my first John Powell album.
Karol
-
WampaRat reacted to mxsch in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
I've heard it. Definitely one of his best.
-
WampaRat reacted to Tallguy in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
I can't think of a sequel where the composer seemed less interested in doing it again.
-
WampaRat reacted to MedigoScan in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
It was a good score for Skyfall. Dont know if it would have fit the earlier bond movies.
-
WampaRat reacted to bollemanneke in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
Listened to first half of disc 1. WOW. I either forgot how good Arnold's Bond was, or this one is just even better. The brass writing is exquisite, something Newman never managed to provide the franchise with. The theme for Paris is fantastic and I WANT A CONCERT SUITE. Oh God, I've bought so much already this month... This'll have to wait.
-
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Tydirium in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (James Mangold, June 30 2023)
And that was a terrific teaser
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Tydirium in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (James Mangold, June 30 2023)
Is a trailer shown to the films director for approval typically? I guess it depends on their clout. I assume Mangold completed the film and Disney’s marketing guys just went to town whilst he’s editing. And then they show it to him as a courtesy but perhaps the understanding is “this WILL be how we market your film” Just wondering how much input Mangold (or Spielberg for that matter)would have on a giant movies marketing/advertising.
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Jay in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
2:38 to 2:50 in “Boarding the Stealth”. A small but effectively badass moment in TND. I love how the lower strings attack the famous guitar riff. Arnold does this quite a bit throughout the score. Instead of a cool confidant rendition, things are tense and dire. Love it.
Also “Helicopter Ride” (now “Vietnam” on the LLL release) has been a standout highlight for me ever since I saw the film as a youngster. It’s got those cool Arnold strings he uses in Bjorks’ “Play Dead” song.
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Tydirium in James Newton Howard thread
This gem will finally be available again digitally on Friday:
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Tallguy in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
2:38 to 2:50 in “Boarding the Stealth”. A small but effectively badass moment in TND. I love how the lower strings attack the famous guitar riff. Arnold does this quite a bit throughout the score. Instead of a cool confidant rendition, things are tense and dire. Love it.
Also “Helicopter Ride” (now “Vietnam” on the LLL release) has been a standout highlight for me ever since I saw the film as a youngster. It’s got those cool Arnold strings he uses in Bjorks’ “Play Dead” song.
-
WampaRat got a reaction from crocodile in AMISTAD (1997) - NEW! 2-CD 25th Anniversary Expanded Edition produced by Mike Matessino (2022)
Made it home safe after a perilous snowy drive home. Now to dig in!
-
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Raiders of the SoundtrArk in AMISTAD (1997) - NEW! 2-CD 25th Anniversary Expanded Edition produced by Mike Matessino (2022)
Made it home safe after a perilous snowy drive home. Now to dig in!
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Jay in Amistad Expanded Release - MUSIC Discussion
Sweet. Thanks!
Here they be:
-
-
WampaRat reacted to Disco Stu in Amistad Expanded Release - MUSIC Discussion
I've listened to this wonderful set all the way through 2 times since I got it on Saturday, which is admittedly less than I would have if I wasn't listening to a lot of Christmas music at the moment (and hey, I'll have all year to absorb this release properly whereas the Xmas music goes back in the vault [i.e., off my phone] by January).
My initial takeaway is just how gratifying it is to have cues like "Steering East" and "African Violet", cues I fell in love with in the film, finally finally to listen to properly on their own.
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Jay in Amistad Expanded Release - MUSIC Discussion
No worries! I’m sure you explained it clearly. It was late when I finally was able to rip the CDs and skimmed the booklet. Then I did my listening at work the next day (didn’t have the booklet with me to refer to). Didn’t remember the specifics at the time.
How do you do that hyperlink text thing that takes you to a specific post on another thread? (I shared my thoughts on page 3 of the LLL TND thread. They’re about 3/4 of the way down lol)
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Michael George Pringle in Amistad Expanded Release - MUSIC Discussion
Finished my first full listen (and currently in the beginning of my second). I’ll need to revisit it more to have some comments of substance. Perhaps watch the film again as well.
Just a few things that jumped out at me this time:
Introduction and Retribution:
The increasing rhythmic scrapping that starts about 2:25 as the violence amps up. Really sets me on edge. I can see how it would pair perfectly with the captives finding the barrel of cane knives during their attempted escape. Hope we can get some “score restore” videos for these!
The Meeting of the Minds(Memories of Home) theme is so beautiful. I love it in all its iterations. So glad this release lets this theme shine more.
Which brings me to the heart rending
Prisoner’s Song. Jay you mentioned one of the best moments of this score is a “non-thematic” one. Was this the one you refer too? It’s brief. But it cuts me to the core. I don’t know what it is about it. There’s something in it that makes me feel like it’s an evolution of the Meeting of the Minds/Memories of home theme (Anyone want to try and transcribe the two?) Where “Meetings” evokes their old homeland, “Prisoner’s Song” seems to elude to their new home and the African culture that will develop in North America. Religious Spirituals having evolved from traditional songs of their homeland. Wish it became a reoccurring theme. Damn is it moving.
Comparing the two versions of Tales of Horror, it’s interesting to see the two approaches. The film version seems to score the first half of the cue with a more paranoid vibe. It helps you feel Cinque’s perspective a bit more as he sits uncomfortably on the stand. Then it explodes into the “Dry Your Tears” theme backed by the choir as he summons the courage to speak. The alternate is flipped in it’s choral usage. The first half has the momentous choral building of Cinque’s theme. Heavy with sorrow. But then a more subdued version of the “Dry Your Tears” theme plays sans-choir as Cinque stands and declares “Give Us Free!” Id be very curious to see a score restore with this version.
The brutal Spanish Guitar strums that clash with the African instruments about 3:08 into The Crossing is just a master stroke of genius!
That’s all I got so far. I’m sure more will pop out as I revisit it again. Now. Back to Tomorrow Never Dies! 😃
-
WampaRat reacted to mxsch in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
There is so much leitmotifs it's bonkers.
Main theme, From Russia With Love, Surrender, love theme for Paris, Kaufman, Goldeneye-like motif in the White Knight which reappears in the Grenade, NATO, Vietnam, all ship things have it's own motif including sinking (The Sinking of the Devonshire is heavily connected with the all final stuff), villain motif which reappears in the TWINE, Harpoon missile almost exploding/ship self-destructing ostinato in the White Knight/Carver Gets It, three-note "Danger" ostinato which featured in all Arnold-scored movies except Quantum, damn
-
WampaRat reacted to mstrox in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
I suspect it’s not the artists themselves but their record companies and their multi-million dollar contracts. Adele was a Columbia artist during Skyfall and the OST was released by Sony Classical. The two labels probably couldn’t come to terms with each other regarding profit share from the album, and as a result the album was only Sony Classical and the single was released by XL/Columbia.
Similarly, “You Know My Name” was released by Interscope as was “No Time To Die” with not a penny to Sony. Ditto Sam Smith on Capitol Records.
On the other side, Jack White was releasing music on his own label at the time and Alicia Keys was already a Sony artist on J Records, so I’m sure the negotiations were fairly easy for Quantum of Solace.
-
WampaRat reacted to blondheim in David Arnold's TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997) - NEW! 2-CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records (2022)
Bond sounded more authentic with Barry, surely, but he never sounded cooler than when he was with David Arnold.
-
WampaRat got a reaction from Jay in Amistad Expanded Release - MUSIC Discussion
Finished my first full listen (and currently in the beginning of my second). I’ll need to revisit it more to have some comments of substance. Perhaps watch the film again as well.
Just a few things that jumped out at me this time:
Introduction and Retribution:
The increasing rhythmic scrapping that starts about 2:25 as the violence amps up. Really sets me on edge. I can see how it would pair perfectly with the captives finding the barrel of cane knives during their attempted escape. Hope we can get some “score restore” videos for these!
The Meeting of the Minds(Memories of Home) theme is so beautiful. I love it in all its iterations. So glad this release lets this theme shine more.
Which brings me to the heart rending
Prisoner’s Song. Jay you mentioned one of the best moments of this score is a “non-thematic” one. Was this the one you refer too? It’s brief. But it cuts me to the core. I don’t know what it is about it. There’s something in it that makes me feel like it’s an evolution of the Meeting of the Minds/Memories of home theme (Anyone want to try and transcribe the two?) Where “Meetings” evokes their old homeland, “Prisoner’s Song” seems to elude to their new home and the African culture that will develop in North America. Religious Spirituals having evolved from traditional songs of their homeland. Wish it became a reoccurring theme. Damn is it moving.
Comparing the two versions of Tales of Horror, it’s interesting to see the two approaches. The film version seems to score the first half of the cue with a more paranoid vibe. It helps you feel Cinque’s perspective a bit more as he sits uncomfortably on the stand. Then it explodes into the “Dry Your Tears” theme backed by the choir as he summons the courage to speak. The alternate is flipped in it’s choral usage. The first half has the momentous choral building of Cinque’s theme. Heavy with sorrow. But then a more subdued version of the “Dry Your Tears” theme plays sans-choir as Cinque stands and declares “Give Us Free!” Id be very curious to see a score restore with this version.
The brutal Spanish Guitar strums that clash with the African instruments about 3:08 into The Crossing is just a master stroke of genius!
That’s all I got so far. I’m sure more will pop out as I revisit it again. Now. Back to Tomorrow Never Dies! 😃
-
WampaRat reacted to Jay in Amistad Expanded Release - MUSIC Discussion
I hope @Holko wants to do one!
I just love this theme. It's somehow calming while also a little mischievous or something. It's hard to put into words!
I didn't say "best", I said "one of my favorite cues", which, yes, was referring to "Prisoner's Song". I love it! And I'm so glad it's in the main program, and not the bonus tracks (since it's technically source music).
Wow, an astute analysis, well said!
Oh, man, that's not how it worked at all, and now I feel that I failed to explain it properly in the liner notes (unless you didn't read them)
The first 6 minutes of the track is the original version of the cue, where the "Give Us, Us Free!" scene was scored with an orchestral version of Cinque's theme. After that in the track is a revised ending that replaced all the music for the "Give Us, Us Free! " scene with a choral rendition of the Dry Your Tears Africa theme. This replacement happened in both the film and original OST album; the original instrumental Cinque's theme ending had never been heard before now.
The bonus track contains two other options that were recorded for the "Give Us, Us Free" scene - first a powerful choral version of Cinque's theme, then an awesome instrumental rendition of the Dry Your Tears Africa theme. Neither was used anywhere and have never been heard until now.
There is no alternate for the majority of the Tales of Horror cue, only the ending was revised.
Yea! That part is so neat!
Do share your thoughts on that release, too!