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  1. https://gizmodo.com/star-wars-andor-rogue-one-re-release-1849410429 I'm guessing this is why the seemingly out-of-nowhere expansion was made? The re-release poster has similar art to the Mondo vinyl.
  2. Jurassic World (2015) would have insane union fees since it was recorded in LA right? Then again, maybe not if Rogue One got an expansion... There's also the session leaks for Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom that probably lower desirability for those scores a bit
  3. One of my favorite ever posts on this forum is the one in the Star Wars 2018 Remasters thread where someone posted that clip of Ben Burtt melting a sound effects reel and captioned it "whoops there goes the ESB tapes" That had me in tears laughing - although it really isn't funny Lucasfilm should be taking much better care of their library
  4. If they aren't bots why does it matter if they're en masse or not?
  5. I'm not sure how much they've done this actually, yes you probably should watch the animated shows if you want to watch some of their more recent content but they haven't really referenced the books or the comics or any of that other shit at all. In many ways it's very similar to the old EU except that the official canon policy is no longer honest about what really matters. In fact I can think of multiple times recently where Disney canon stuff has been explicitly retconned, for example the 2015 supposedly canon Kanan comic series showed what he was doing in Order 66 which was completely contradicted by The Bad Batch. The 2016 supposedly canon Ahsoka book had tons of information that was already retconned a bit by S7 of the Clone Wars and I've read is likely going to be completely invalidated by Tales of the Jedi whenever that comes out
  6. so there's a less common one that's more complete?
  7. I can't ever listen to the Daggerfall theme without hearing Across the Stars:
  8. There's a very interesting 2-part semi-documentary series on Youtube that I've seen recently called Star Wars Apocrypha that deep dives into the behind the scenes making of the Sequel Trilogy based on all the public primary source information that we have. There's a lot of information in it, but one of the main points of interest is that it seems like Disney was very hands free on the making of TFA and TLJ, they pretty much let JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson do whatever they wanted. I don't know for certain how any of the more recent projects have been run, I guess it is possible that the Disney+ series' have been more controlled. But it does seem like the Mandalorian, the Clone Wars S7 and the Bad Batch have had mostly hands free development cycles. The only two entries I can think of to have explicit interference from Disney were Solo and TROS where the directors were replaced
  9. Even if such a thing were to happen, is there any music of value for these two scores (such as vetoed source music) that wasn't already on the previous LLL releases?
  10. Any idea why these recent FYCs haven't differed from the albums? I thought the awards promos were supposed to match the music as it's heard in the series
  11. I'm referring to Williams' sketches, not the leaked conductor score. The jkms instagram shows both, to my knowledge only the conductor score has been leaked
  12. Not sure if people have seen this before but I figured I'd share it here since it reveals a couple new sync points This instagram post from jkms shows the first pages of some of Williams' sketches for AOTC, which to my knowledge haven't leaked and otherwise aren't available online: https://www.instagram.com/p/CY7i53zPRU9/ specifically it shows 1m4 The Meeting of Anakin and Padme 1m7a Zam Chase Pt. 1 2m3 Departure 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace 5m6 The Conveyor Belt 6m1 Love Pledge
  13. From what I've read they chose to record in London since principal photography was done there and it was cheaper than in the States, the LSO was chosen specifically because it's usual conductor was André Previn, a good friend of John Williams.
  14. So then that means the anthology/film version is faster because it was artificially sped up?
  15. Okay so to recap there's two versions of Finale The longer version used on the original OST (John Neal mix), the 1997 SE set (Brian Risner mix), and the 2018 remaster (Eric Tomlinson mix) The shorter version used on the Crimson Empire audiobook. The anthology set and the film seem to use the shorter version but segue to the longer version for the last statement of the love theme Did I get all that? As for the End Credits cue, this is where I'm really confused This seems to imply that the film version is an entirely separate recording, but the John Takis cue list (https://www.jwfan.com/?p=4092) refers to it as "End Credit Insert" Is it an insert that replaces just part of the cue with the rest of it just artificially sped up? Or was the entire cue rerecorded with the new insert
  16. Here's something from ESB I've never understood that I'd love to know. Can somebody explain all the variants of the Finale and End Credits cues? I'm aware of at least two different recordings of Finale and at least two different recordings of the End Credits but I'm not exactly sure why they exist and which is available where
  17. I was just listening to the ESB radio drama (episode 4 at 9:33) and I discovered that you can actually hear the clean opening (buried under sfx of course, but not overlapped with any other cue) of 1m2 Insert Bar 80! It turns out that the harp which I had always assumed to be the ending of 1m2 New Start is actually not. The real way that the track breaks down is like this: 1-04 The Imperial Probe / Aboard The Executor (4:24) 0:00-0:55 = 1M2 New Start 0:52-1:14 = 1M2 Insert Bar 80 1:14-end = 2M4 The Probe Scanner The woodwinds from 0:52-0:55 are the ending of 1m2 New Start, but the harp from 0:52-0:55 is from 1m2 Insert Bar 80. It would appear that the harp from 0:51-0:52 and the harp from 0:52-0:55 are completely separate performances from completely separate cues. I would never have guessed that just by listening to the SE album, but it seems to be the case based on the sheet music as well. Now I'm super impressed by that SE album edit, it has to be one of the most seamless transitions ever, especially for two cues that were not designed to overlap each other
  18. Yeah the reason blu-ray players operate like that is for DRM and control purposes. There's an excellent writeup on the makemkv forums that goes into detail about this process and how blu-ray drives evolved from cd drives: https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856
  19. Yeah I don't know how I didn't realize that, I guess I just didn't look too hard at it the first time I saw it
  20. I haven't finished the interview yet but damn I would've liked to have heard some of her earlier theme ideas. She says that she wrote a lot of Williams-esque themes and Deborah Chow didn't like any of them, the only early theme she approved was the RCP-like inquisitor theme
  21. Louis Forestieri according to discogs : https://www.discogs.com/release/10765127-Various-Universal-Studios-Islands-Of-Adventure-Official-Soundtrack-Album
  22. Okay I've determined the recording session footage in Empire of Dreams is actually fake. They just took some of the existing footage from the Empire sessions and digitally replaced what was on the projector with ANH footage. You can tell because all of the orchestra players are wearing the same clothes as the Empire sessions, the camera angle is the same, and you can sort of see a border on the projector where they made their digital alterations
  23. Finally got around to splitting the ESB breakdown into separate cues. Once again the breakdown itself is entirely the same as @Counterparts original, just with corrected timestamps for the original cues Main Title: 0:07 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:26 Luke's Theme (B Section) 0:49 Luke's Theme (A Section) The Imperial Probe: 0:08 Imperial March 0:22 Imperial March 1:19 Luke's Theme (A Section) 1:35 Luke's Theme (A Section) 1:46 Han Solo and the Princess 2:40 Luke's Theme (A Section) [Strings] 2:55 Luke's Theme (B Section) 3:12 Princess Leia's Theme 3:50 Princess Leia's Theme 4:17 Han Solo and the Princess 5:01 Droid Motif 5:29 Luke's Theme (A Section) 5:40 Luke's Theme (B Section) 5:55 Luke's Theme (A Section) 6:14 Han Solo and the Princess New Start: 0:07 Imperial March Insert Bar 80: Insert Bar 109: Luke's Escape: 1:07 The Force Theme 1:23 Luke's Theme (A Section) 1:48 Hoth Blizzard 1:53 Rebel Fanfare 2:03 Droid Motif 2:46 The Force Theme 2:59 Hoth Blizzard Ben's Instructions: 0:00 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:35 Luke's Theme (A Section) 1:18 The Force Theme 3:09 Snowspeeder Search Luke's Rescue: 0:00 Snowspeeder Search 1:15 Snowspeeder Search The Probe Scanner: 0:00 Imperial March Rhythm 0:26 Imperial March 0:43 Probe Droid 1:18 Imperial March Rhythm 1:36 Imperial March 2:31 Imperial March Rhythm 2:48 Imperial March Drawing the Battle Lines: 0:10 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:40 Imperial March Rhythm 0:54 Imperial March 1:20 Imperial March 1:42 Imperial March Leia's Instructions: 0:58 Imperial March 1:05 The Rolling Thunder 1:05 Rebel Fanfare 1:19 Luke's Theme (A Section) The Snow Battle: 0:00 Imperial Walkers 0:28 Snowspeeders 1:01 Snow Battle 1:38 Snow Battle 2:15 Snowspeeders 2:44 Imperial Walkers 3:22 Snowspeeders Luke's First Crash: 0:00 Hoth Evacuation 0:23 Droid Motif 0:53 Imperial March 0:58 Hoth Evacuation 1:34 Luke's Theme (A Section) 2:04 Luke's Theme (A Section) 2:31 Luke's Theme (A Section) 2:41 The Force Theme 3:05 Rebel Fanfare 3:36 Imperial March The Rebels Escape Again: 0:17 Han Solo and the Princess 0:33 Imperial March 1:08 Imperial March 1:30 Han Solo and the Princess 1:38 Imperial March 1:50 Han Solo and the Princess 2:24 Han Solo and the Princess The Asteroid Field: 0:05 Imperial March 0:33 Imperial March 1:19 The Asteroid Field 1:42 The Asteroid Field 1:59 Asteroid Chase 2:42 Asteroid Chase 3:26 Han Solo and the Princess Crash Landing: 1:00 Droid Motif 1:20 Droid Motif 1:42 Droid Motif 1:54 Droid Motif 2:15 Droid Motif 2:41 Imperial March 3:04 Imperial March Yoda Appears: 0:57 The Force Theme Yoda's Entrance: 0:00 Yoda Playful 0:12 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 0:31 Yoda's Theme (B Section) 1:18 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 1:32 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 1:48 Yoda Playful 1:56 Yoda's Theme (A Section) End Fix: Solo and the Princess: 0:16 Han Solo and the Princess 1:32 Imperial March 2:07 Imperial March Rhythm 2:12 Imperial March 3:07 The Dark Side Yoda's Teaching: 0:09 The Force Theme 0:27 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:46 Yoda's Theme (B Section) 0:59 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 1:27 The Force Theme 1:50 Luke's Theme (A Section) This is Not a Cave: 0:07 Imperial March 0:45 Mynock "Cave" 2:26 Mynock "Cave" Training a Jedi: 0:06 Yoda's Theme 0:38 Imperial March 1:07 The Force Theme The Magic Tree: 0:34 Luke's' Theme (A Section) 2:17 The Dark Side 2:59 Luke's Theme (A Section) 3:06 Yoda's Theme 3:18 Imperial March Attack Position: 0:00 Boba Fett Motif 1:58 Imperial March (Fragment) 2:13 Yoda's Theme Yoda Raises the Ship: 0:28 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:59 The Force Theme 2:18 Yoda's Theme 2:30 Yoda's Theme 3:01 The Power of the Force/The Dark Side 3:12 Yoda's Theme 3:41 Imperial March Vader's Command: 0:03 Imperial March 0:37 Imperial March City in the Clouds: 0:12 Han Solo and the Princess 0:36 Boba Fett Motif 0:48 Yoda's Theme 1:08 The Force Theme 1:31 Yoda's Theme 3:02 Cloud City 3:40 Cloud City 3:48 Cloud City 4:07 Imperial March (Hidden at Cloud City Variation)? 4:23 Imperial March (Hidden at Cloud City Variation)? Lando's Palace: 0:06 Cloud City March (A Section) 0:29 Cloud City March (B Section) 0:43 Cloud City March (A Section) 1:22 Luke's Theme (A Section) 1:42 The Force Theme 1:56 Imperial March 2:05 Yoda's Theme 2:26 Yoda's Theme 3:00 Luke's Theme (A Section) 3:16 The Force Theme Luke to the Rescue: 0:03 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:30 Han Solo and the Princess 9m2 Vader Shows Up 0:06-0:27 Cloud City March (A Section) 0:14 Rebel Fanfare 0:24 Rebel Fanfare 0:27 Cloud City March (B Section) 0:42 Imperial March (Hidden at Cloud City Variation) 0:52 Boba Fett Motif 1:20 Luke's Theme (A Section) Putting Threepio Together: 0:30 Droid Motif 0:44 Imperial March Trouble in Prison: 0:00 Imperial March 0:08 Prison Motif? 0:14 Droid Motif 0:38 Prison Motif? 1:05 Han Solo and the Princess 2:10 Han Solo and the Princess Carbon Freeze: 0:04 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:24 Imperial March 0:57 Han Solo and the Princess 1:19 Imperial March 1:27 Luke's Theme (Fragment) 1:35 Han Solo and the Princess 1:59 Han In Carbonite 2:27 Imperial March 2:40 Han Solo and the Princess 3:02 Han Solo and the Princess 3:36 Unknown 1 3:53 Imperial March 4:01 Unknown 1 Insert Bar 57: Luke Pursues the Captives: 0:08 Cloud City Trap 0:46 Yoda's Theme 1:15 Yoda's Theme 1:43 Yoda's Theme 1:54 Yoda's Theme 2:23 Imperial March 2:42 Cloud City Trap Chewie Chokes Lando: 0:00 Unknown 1 0:17 Unknown 1 1:06 Cloud City Trap 1:20 Han Solo and the Princess 1:45 Han In Carbonite 1:50 Han Solo and the Princess 2:17 Imperial March 2:47 The Force Theme 2:59 Yoda's Theme 3:23 Yoda's Theme 3:30 Luke's Theme (A Section) Through the Window: 0:08 The Dark Side 0:41 Imperial March 1:41 Yoda's Theme 1:43 Yoda's Theme (Shadow) 2:00 Cloud City March (A Section) 2:16 Han Solo and the Princess 2:54 Han Solo and the Princess 3:23 Unknown 2 Losing a Hand: 0:54 Imperial March 2:08 Unknown 2 2:13 Cloud City 2:20 Cloud City 2:25 Cloud City Rescue? 3:22 The Force Theme 3:50 Imperial March 4:02 Cloud City Rescue? 4:14 Cloud City Rescue? To Hyper-space: 0:00 Escape from Bespin 0:11 Princess Leia's Theme 0:17 Escape from Bespin 1:02 Escape from Bespin 1:18 Imperial March 1:35 Escape from Bespin 1:38 Droid Motif 2:07 Imperial March 2:41 Imperial March 3:04 Escape from Bespin 3:23 The Force Theme 3:37 Imperial March Finale: 0:03 The Force Theme (A Section) 0:33 The Force Theme (B Section) 0:43 The Force Theme (A Section) 0:58 Han Solo and the Princess (A Section) 1:23 Han Solo and the Princess (B Section) 1:46 Han Solo and the Princess (A Section) End Credits: 0:00 Luke's Theme (A Section) 0:08 Rebel Fanfare 0:14 The Rolling Thunder 0:17 Rebel Fanfare 0:28 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 0:30 Rebel Fanfare 0:55 Yoda's Theme (B Section) 1:12 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 1:42 Imperial March Rhythm 1:52 Imperial March 2:46 Han Solo and the Princess (A Section) 3:05 Han Solo and the Princess (B Section) 3:25 Han Solo and the Princess (A Section) 3:53 Throne Room Fanfare 3:57 Rebel Fanfare 4:02 Rebel Fanfare 4:03 Imperial March Darth Vader's Theme: 0:00 Imperial March Rhythm 0:10 Imperial March (A Section) 0:38 Imperial March Rhythm 0:48 Imperial March (B Section) 1:06 Imperial March (A Section) 1:39 Imperial March Rhythm 1:48 Imperial March (A Section) 2:16 Imperial March (A Section) 2:34 Imperial March Rhythm 2:39 Imperial March (A Section) 2:44 Imperial March Rhythm Yoda's Theme: 0:07 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 0:58 Yoda's Theme (B Section) 1:19 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 2:06 Yoda's Theme (A Section) 2:33 Yoda's Theme (A Section)
  24. Update: I think they silently cancelled plans for the sale. Honestly I think that's a good thing. I do hope the music is made available to listen to eventually but this wasn't the way to do it. Technical details for those who care: In other news, I managed to glean the names of four of the five cues that were going to be released this way: Flight to LA The Rain Voxton 4 Marketplace K’s Horse
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