[The Ol' College Try]

5 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said:

TLC doesn’t have any speed issues.

On the Concord?

[The Ol' College Try]

I've listened to the DCC of Raiders of the Lost Ark maybe 3 or 4 times but I've never really loved it. 

 

I've never bothered with TOD or TLC cuz I don't feel like dealing with the speed issues 

[The Phantom Menace vs. Attack of the Clones vs. Revenge of the Sith]

9 hours ago, crumbs said:

Wouldn't it be nice if an expanded version of The Phantom Menace just appeared out of nowhere alongside the theatrical re-release? Won't happen of course, seeing as Disney seem desperate to do nothing with these scores, while preventing anyone else from touching them either.

 

I wonder if Mondo would have more luck triggering expansions than Intrada? Disney seem happy to take their bucketloads of cash in exchange for limited edition vinyl pressings, which seems to be what happened with Rogue One. And Mondo hired Mike to assemble the Hook vinyl, so presumably he'd be hired for expanded SW vinyls...

 

WDR just seem totally uninterested in pursuing this themselves, but Mondo might have more luck?

Rogue One also happened due to the theatrical rerelease iirc, at least they both came out around the same time

[Star Wars Alternate Takes Thread]

Some more alternate takes I found today:

 

The entire film take of 3m1 The Princess Appears is completely unreleased; all 3 albums (the 1993/1997/2018) feature the same wrong take.

 

3m4-4m1 The Sandman Attacks has the wrong take for the opening on the 1997 set, specifically for the part that was previously unreleased and isn't on the other two albums. The parts that are released on all 3 are the same as the film take

[The Complete Star Wars Soundtrack OST to Cue List Spreadsheet]

looks like you used the 1997 Special Edition releases for the OT, not the actual OSTs; not sure if that was your intention

[NEW book by Frank Lehman - The Skywalker Symphonies: Musical Storytelling in Star Wars]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

I would assume Frank will be given all the recordings and sheet music, no?

Is it in collaboration with Lucasfilm?

[Star Wars Alternate Takes Thread]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

This probably counts as an alternate mix but there's all kinds of bizarre differences between OST and Demaster version of Augie's Great Municipal Band:

 

OST:

 

Demaster:

 

Wow yeah I'd never actually listened to the 2018 version of this. The OST mix is bad enough it's impressive how much worse they managed to make it

 

I'm very glad for the film mix 

[Star Wars Alternate Takes Thread]

23 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Do the 1993 / 2018 sets match the original 1977 LP?

I didn't include the 1977 set in my comparisons since the entire set is a completely different mix from the ground up, so it neither looks nor sounds like the film or any other set.

 

That said the 1977 and 2018 have identical programs. The 1993's program is loosely based on the 1977 set but with some microedits restored and with a more chronological order 

[Star Wars Alternate Takes Thread]

Decided to start a thread to list all of these since I've started documenting them. There are a surprising number of these available to the public.

 

From ANH, everyone knows about takes 16-20 of 1m2 Star Wars on the 1997 set, and the alternate takes throughout the 1993 album are pretty well known as well (though not necessarily documented). But I was surprised to find that the 1997 and 2018 albums actually have alternate takes too! Here's a few that I've found already:

 

1M3 The War has an alternate take on the 1993 set from 2:15-2:58, the 1997/2018 sets have the correct one.

 

2M3 The Little People has an alternate take in a couple spots. The 1993 and 1997 sets both have the wrong take from 3:12-3:16, where the 2018 has the right one. However, the 1993 and 2018 sets have the wrong take for the ending Imperial statement, where the 1997 set has the correct one.

 

2M5 More Little People has an alternate mix for 1:25-end on the 1993 and 1997 sets, where the 2018 has the correct mix. I thought this was a different take originally but @Manakin Skywalker noticed that the 1997 and 2018 versions do indeed phase, so it must be a different mix and not a different take.

I'll keep updating this thread as I find more. Feel free to include ones from other Star Wars scores, they don't have to just be ANH

[Star Wars is better than everything]

10 minutes ago, Brando said:

Which scene was this? I know of some of the other bad edits but this one I don’t remember 

When the Slave I takes off with Han Solo the music cuts out in the theatrical cut. The Special Edition undoes the edit so the cue's used as intended

[Star Wars is better than everything]

1 hour ago, Faleel said:

At least you wouldn't get tracked Imperial March and Leia's awkward silent anguish in ESB.

No you'd just replace it with looping in the Wampa caves and obvious terrible tracking for Vader's return to the Executor

[Mark Graham just picked up a John Williams sketch and is "in a rush"! Any ideas?]

54 minutes ago, karelm said:

It had everything I thought to check.  With that said, I didn't think to check some of those!  I did see the soundtrack and also arranged cues meant for the soundtrack album but might not be in the film.  I do recall a cantina band or two but those weren't my main focus.  

 

Ah okay. Did you take any other pictures?

[Mark Graham just picked up a John Williams sketch and is "in a rush"! Any ideas?]

5 hours ago, karelm said:

 

My pictures while examining those sheets.  Was such a thrill to hold the original, hand written full scores!  

 

Three piles, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. 

 

Woah that's awesome! Did the piles include any source music? (e.g. Ewok Drums, Cantina Band, etc.)

[Star Wars Prequel Music Resource (part 2)]

4 hours ago, crumbs said:

They had a segment on John Williams and the Star Wars scores. Somewhat miraculously they included footage of the alternate BOTH intro being recorded with the LSO.

Yeah it's especially impressive given that their entire JW section was only 5 minutes long

[Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs]

I think everybody forgot about it, and rightfully so

[Mark Graham just picked up a John Williams sketch and is "in a rush"! Any ideas?]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Star Wars 1977

 

unfortunately this part lagged out for over a minute in the livestream, it seems the uploaded version is missing a large chunk here, it basically skips the entire Star Wars section minus a very brief part

[Star Wars Prequel Music Resource (part 2)]

1 hour ago, BrotherSound said:

Episode IX might even require 4 discs. There were 226 minutes recorded, which could theoretically fit on 3, but that doesn’t account for putting inserts or overlays into their intended context.

Or they could always pull a Rogue One EE and abruptly start and stop mid-music

[John Williams on Variety Cover (article & video)]

"People ask about a legacy, I don't think about [that] very much - I think I'm much too young to think about such things" - John Williams

[Danny Elfman's HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY (2008) - 2024 Varese Deluxe Edition]

4 hours ago, Holko said:

In which case fuck the composer, they've had the OST

Yeah I personally don't understand the point of seeking composer approval with these expansions. If the studios own the rights anyway there's absolutely no reason not release all of the music

[Remasters of the First 6 Star Wars Soundtracks now available (Shawn Murphy / Disney Records 2018)]

 

I just stumbled on this wonderful interview with Chris Malone about the Empire Strikes Back soundtrack. He goes over a lot of what he talks about in his old pdf document and also corrects some mistakes he made. I'm only like 40 minutes into it but I've learned a ton about the exact formats that the OT scores were recorded onto, I'd highly recommend giving this a listen

[2023 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION studio sites (featuring music)]

I'm happy to say I finished archive.org-ing all of the links in this thread; I did it with a script instead of by hand so please let me know if there are any that it missed

[Using AI to manipulate film score audio (dialogue removal, stem separation, etc)]

1 hour ago, SyncMan said:

I've done that and it gave me this error message.

This is the 'Show Log'

Looks like you didn't install the openvino-models correctly

[Using AI to manipulate film score audio (dialogue removal, stem separation, etc)]

Just now, SyncMan said:

I've installed the plugins into a 2023 build of Audactiy.

I'm using a 4-minute music file that is 16-bit/44.1khz stereo file, but when I select 'OpenVINO Music Separation' , 'the 'Preview' button is grayed-out. 

 

I tried-out another desktop where I have both CPU and GPU Inference devices and the 'Preview' button is still grayed-out.

 

Is there a step that I may have missed?

the preview button isn't really necessary since there are no real settings anyway. Just click okay and wait for it to finish

[Star Wars: John Williams Original Handwritten Music Manuscript for the Opening Auction]

4 hours ago, BrotherSound said:

@Falstaft So, it’s actually R1P2 Starwars!

 

I believe @CGCJactually discovered this a few months ago, The Galaxy That Britain Built documentary includes a handwritten cue sheet with this title

 

[Using AI to manipulate film score audio (dialogue removal, stem separation, etc)]

12 minutes ago, Faleel said:

Is that the sustained strings that was used in the theatrical for the "You Will Be... You Will Be" scene?

I don't think so no. I'm not certain what that is off the top of my head though.

 

Here's the cleaned up ending of the insert from the radio drama:

   

 

And actually here's the unreleased 14 seconds of the main cue as well, though like I said this has some artifacts and some sfx remaining, actually I'll include a before and after in case anyone wants to try a better one: