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    enderdrag64 reacted to Mr. Breathmask in Browncoats' Help Needed! - Creating a Firefly Editing Guide   
    Over the past few days, I've been working on an editing guide for the Firefly soundtrack release. As you may know, the Firefly soundtrack album features many tracks consisting of smaller cues that have been thrown together from different episodes and containing material related to different characters. This makes for a rather unhinged listening experience.
    Thankfully, I'm not the first person to attempt this, so I've been using this website for reference.
    Most of what's on there is accurate, but there were a few omissions and mistakes.
    So now that I've gone through every piece of music and checked all the corresponding scenes at the website linked above, I'm left with five pieces of music I can't place.
    Can you?
    It would be a great help! They are:
    4a. Whitefall (0:00 - 0:36)
    11a. Leaving (0:00 - 0:10)
    11c. Caper [part 2] (1:17 - 1:54)
    13a. In My Bunk [part 1] (0:00 - 0:24)
    19a. Boarding the Serenity (0:00 - 0:39)
    Everything else is accounted for. I hope you guys can help me out! Once all tracks are in place, I'll post the complete editing guide!
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Jay in The Force Awakens - Complete Score Breakdown & Chronological Order (Film Spoilers Allowed)   
    The Force Awakens by John Williams
    Complete Score Breakdown & Other Info by Jason LeBlanc
     
     
     
     
    I have no clue what any of Williams' original cue names are, so I made up my own names for all of them, usually just using a description of the scene or some dialogue from it rather than trying to imitate Williams' naming style.

    I'm sure I missed some things here and there so I welcome any at all questions and updates and corrections.

    Without further ado here we go!
     
    May 2020 update: We now know all of Williams' original cue titles.  I will continue to edit this post with corrected info as I have time, and will put old, outdated info in spoiler-blocks until I have time to replace it with updated info.
     
     
     
     
    CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF OST:
     
    01 Main Title And The Attack On The Jakku Village (6:25) 02 The Scavenger (3:39) 03 I Can Fly Anything (3:11) 08B "That Lady With The Stick" (0:35-1:05) 05 Follow Me (2:54) 07 The Falcon (3:32) 08A "What's Your Name?" (0:00-0:35) 08C "Kylo and His Sword" (1:11-end) 09 The Rathtars (4:05) 10B "Green Planet" (0:52-1:17) 10C "You Got A Name?" (1:17-end) 11A "Maz on the Table" (0:00-1:21) 10A "I Ran Into You" (0:00-0:52) 04B "I've Found The Droid" (1:10-end) 11B "I Have To Go Back" (1:21-end) 12 The Starkiller (1:51) 13 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (2:01) 14 The Abduction (2:25) 15 Han And Leia (4:41) 17 Snoke (2:03) 18 On The Inside (2:05) 19 Torn Apart (4:19) 20 The Ways Of The Force (3:14) 22A "Light In The Snow and Flying Home" (0:00-2:05) 04A "Finding The Map" (0:00-1:10) 22B "The Complete Map (2:05-end) 23 The Jedi Steps And Finale (8:51)
    Concert Arrangements 06 Rey's Theme (3:11) 16 March Of The Resistance (2:35) 21 Scherzo For X-Wings (2:32)  
     
    DETAILED OST BREAKDOWN:
     
     
    1 Main Title And The Attack On The Jakku Village (6:25)
    0:00-1:26 = 1M1 Main Title 1:26-1:44 = 1M1Av3 Starry Night 1:44-2:16 = 1M2A Fix 2:16-2:29 = 1M1Av3 Starry Night {continued} 2:29-2:59 = 1M2B 2:59-3:07 = 1M1Av3 Starry Night {continued} 3:07-3:27 = 1M3C I've Seen Too Much 3:27-4:07 = 1M3D The Attack on the Village 4:07-4:52 = 1M3BR The Attack on the Village 4:52-6:03 = 1M4R The Arrival of Kylo Ren 6:03-end = 1M4B Landing 2 The Scavenger (3:39)
    0:00-0:54 = 1M5 Alt 2R The Scavenger 0:54-1:02 = 1M5 Alt 2 The Scavenger 1:02-2:21 = 1M5 Alt 2R The Scavenger {continued} 2:21-2:40 = 1M6 Alt R One Quarter Portion 2:40-end = 1M7 Lunchtime With Rey (Flute Version) 3 I Can Fly Anything (3:11)
    0.00-0.57 = 2M14R I Can Fly Anything 0.57-end = 2M15R The First Escape 4 Rey Meets BB-8 (1:31)
    0:00-1:10 = 8M72 Finding The Map 1:10-end = 4M37 I've Found The Droid 5 Follow Me (2:54)
    0.00-1:07 = 2M18B Who's Luke Skywalker? 1:07-2:24 = 2M18CR Follow Me 2:24-2:36 = 2M18C Insert II 2:36-end = 2M18CR Follow Me {Continued} 6 Rey's Theme (3:11)
    8M79 Rey's Theme 7 The Falcon (3:32)
    3M20R The Falcon Still Flies! 8 That Girl With The Staff (1:58)
    0:00-0:35 = 3M21R What's Your Name? 0:35-1:05 = 2M18A That Lady with the Stick 1:05-end = 3M22R Kylo And His Sword 9 The Rathtars (4:05)
    0:00-1:01 = 3M24R Hiding Under the Grate
    1:01-1:22 = 3M27 Rathtars Appear 1:22-2:47 = 3M28 The Rathtar Attack
    2:47-end = 3M28AR Old Falcon To The Rescue 10 Finn's Confession (2:08)
    0:00-0:52 = 4M36R I Ran Into You 0:52-1:17 = 4M32R Green Planet 1:17-end = 4M33R You Got A Name? 11 Maz's Counsel (3:07)
    0:00-1:21 = 4M35R Maz on the Table 1:21-end = 4M39R I Have To Get Back  12 The Starkiller (1:51)
    8M81 Sunbeam Strings 13 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (2:01)
    0:00-0:15 = 5M43R (Fix) Find Rey! 0:15-0:43 = 5M43A (Fix) Maz’s Treasure Chest 0:43-end = 5M44 Kylo Arrives at Battle 14 The Abduction (2:25)
    0:00-0:56 = 5M46R Kylo Stalks Rey 0:56-1:18 = 5M48 We’ve Got What We Need 1:20-end = 5M49R The Abduction of Rey 15 Han And Leia (4:41)
    0:00-1:12 = 6M50R Han & Leia Reunion 1:12-2:52 = 6M51R Finn and Poe, United 2:51-3:23 = 6M52 R2 In Hibernation 3:23-end = 6M53R Parental Discussion 16 March Of The Resistance (2:35)
    8M77 The Resistance Theme 17 Snoke (2:03)
    0:00-1:02 = 8M78 Snoke 1:02-end = 6M54AR Bring Her To Me 18 On The Inside (2:05)
    0:00-0:45 = 7M62A On The Inside 0:45-0:54 = 7M62A Insert 0:54-end = 7M62A On The Inside {Continued} 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
    0:00-2:26 = 7M65B Father and Son 2:26-2:32 = 7M65C Leia Fix 2.32-3.40 = 7M65 Father And Son 3.40-end = 7M66 The Control Room And Ren In The Forest 20 The Ways Of The Force (3:14)
    0:00-0:12 = 7M67R It Is You
    0:12-0:47 = 7M67BF Rey Catches Sword
    0:47-end = 7M67A Rey vs. Ren
    21 Scherzo For X-Wings (2:32)
    8M80 Scherzo For X-Wings 22 Farewell And The Trip (4:55)
    0:00-1:16 = 7M68A Light In The Snow and Flying Home 1:16-2:05 = 7M68 Flying Home 2:05-end = 8M73 The Complete Map 23 The Jedi Steps And Finale (8:51)
    0:00-2:12 = 8M74 Climbing the Mountain 2:12-end = 8M75 Finale (11/11/15)  
     
    QUICK FYC BREAKDOWN:
     
     
     
    Simple FYC/OST Combo Playlist, no Editing Required
     
     
    Longer Chronological Edit of OST + FYC, In-Track Editing Required:
     

    THE RAW NUMBERS:
     
     
    All comments welcome!
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Jay in Complete Cue List: Attack Of The Clones   
    OK I know there is already the Prequel Unreleased Music Resource thread containing some of this information, but I know a lot of people don't go in there as it mostly deals with cataloging and editing where unreleased music can be found in various video game releases. So I wanted to make an easy to find thread with all the information. Currently the video game information is not included here, but I might get around to adding it at some point.
     
     
     
    Attack Of The Clones by John Williams
     
    COMPLETE CUE LIST
     
    01 1m2 The Arrival At Coruscant - 1:27
    02 1m3 Thwarted Attempt - 3:45
    03 1m4 The Meeting Of Anakin and Padme - 1:29
    04 1m5 She Hardly Recognized Me - 0:56
    05 1m6 Zam's Dirty Trick - 3:42
    06 1m7A Zam Chase Pt. 1 - 3:32
    07 1m7B Zam In Pursuit - 3:09
    08 2m1 Zam Is Eliminated - 4:02
    09 2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - 4:32
    10 2m3 Departure - 1:44
    11 2m5 The Library Scene - 1:14
    12 2m6 Lunch and the Younglings - 3:55
    13 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace - 2:21
    14 3m1 Finding Kamino - 1:35
    15 3m1 Insert - 0:30
    16 3m2 Visiting The Prime Minister - 0:48
    17 3m3 The First Kiss - 1:57
    18 3m4 Interior Tipoca City - 1:55
    19 3m5 The Meadow Scene - 2:29
    20 3m5 Insert - 0:35
    21 3m6 The Meeting With Fett - 2:44
    22 3m7 The Dinner Scene - 3:56
    23 3m8 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare - 2:45
    24 4m1 The Jango Fett Fight - 3:52
    25 4m2 Wattoo Describes Mother's Fate - 0:57
    26 4m3 The Spare Canister Caper - 2:18
    27 4m4 The Arrival At Tatooine - 4:09
    28 4m5 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping - 2:47
    29 4m6 Rescuing Mother - 2:43
    30 4m7 Exacting Revenge - 1:17
    31 5m1A Carrying Mother Home - 1:54
    32 5m1B Anakin Changes - 2:22
    33 5m2 Smee's Funeral - 3:41
    34 5m3 The Commerce Guild Prepares For War - 1:01
    35 5m5 Finding The Conveyor Belt - 1:42
    36 5m6 The Conveyor Belt - 2:55
    37 5m6 Insert
    38 5m7 The Senate Scene - 1:46
    39 6m1 Love Pledge - 2:43
    40 6m2 Entrance Of The Monsters - 4:25
    41 6m2 Sweetener
    42 6m5 Padme Falls - 2:05
    43 6m5 Insert - 0:19
    44 7m1 Dooku Vs Obi-Wan - 2:59
    45 7m2 Yoda Strikes Back - 2:21
    46 7m3 Finale - 5:28
    47 7m3 Insert - 0:38
    48 End Credit - 5:31
    49 End Credit (CD Version)
    50 End Credit (Gelb Version) - 4:38
    51 End Credit (Updated Gelb Version) - 6:00
    52 Across The Stars - 5:38 - 02 Across The Stars
    TOTAL TIME: Approx 2 Hours.
     
     
     
    RELEASE INFORMATION
    01 1m2 The Arrival At Coruscant - 1:27 - 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:25-1:41] (0:16) / Unreleased (1:11)
    02 1m3 Thwarted Attempt - 3:45 - Unreleased
    03 1m4 The Meeting Of Anakin and Padme - 1:29 - Unreleased
    04 1m5 She Hardly Recognized Me - 0:56 - Unreleased
    05 1m6 Zam's Dirty Trick - 3:42 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [0:00-0:24] (0:24) / Unreleased (2:40) / [0:24-1:02] (0:38)
    06 1m7A Zam Chase Pt. 1 - 3:32 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [1:02-2:32] (1:30) / Unreleased (0:15) / [2:32-4:20] (1:48)
    07 1m7B Zam In Pursuit - 3:09 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [4:20-7:27]
    08 2m1 Zam Is Eliminated - 4:02 - 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [7:27- 10:17] (2:50) / Unreleased (0:23) / [10:17-end] (0:50)
    09 2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - 4:32 - Unreleased
    10 2m3 Departure - 1:44 - 05 Departing Coruscant
    11 2m5 The Library Scene - 1:14 - Unreleased
    12 2m6 Lunch and the Younglings - 3:55 - 04 Yoda and the Younglings
    13 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace - 2:21 - Unreleased
    14 3m1 Finding Kamino - 1:35 - 01 Main Title and Ambush on Coruscant [2:11-end]
    15 3m1 Insert - 0:30 - Unreleased
    16 3m2 Visiting The Prime Minister - 0:48 - Unreleased
    17 3m3 The First Kiss - 1:57 - Unreleased
    18 3m4 Interior Tipoca City - 1:55 - 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [1:27-end]
    19 3m5 The Meadow Scene - 2:29 - 08 The Meadow Picnic [0:00-1:37] / Unreleased/Never Recorded (0:35) / [2:12-2:29]
    20 3m5 Insert - 0:35 - 08 The Meadow Picnic [1:37-2:12]
    21 3m6 The Meeting With Fett - 2:44 - 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:39-2:11] (0:32) / Unreleased (2:10)
    22 3m7 The Dinner Scene - 3:56 - 06 Anakin and Padme
    23 3m8 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare - 2:45 - 08 The Meadow Picnic [2:29-2:40] (0:11) / Unreleased (0:55) / [2:40-3:52] (1:12) / Unreleased (0:03) / [3:52-end] (0:22)
    24 4m1 The Jango Fett Fight - 3:52 - 07 Jango's Escape [0:00-3:16] (0:36) / Unreleased (0:04) / [3:16-end]
    25 4m2 Wattoo Describes Mother's Fate - 0:57 - Unreleased
    26 4m3 The Spare Canister Caper - 2:18 - 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [0:00-1:17] (1:17) / Unreleased (0:10) / [1:17-1:27] (0:10) / Unreleased (0:40)
    27 4m4 The Arrival At Tatooine - 4:09 - 10 Return To Tatooine [0:00-4:09]
    28 4m5 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping - 2:47 - 10 Return To Tatooine [4:09-end]
    29 4m6 Rescuing Mother - 2:43 - 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [0:00-2:43]
    30 4m7 Exacting Revenge - 1:17 - 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [2:43-4:00]
    31 5m1A Carrying Mother Home - 1:54 - 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [4:00-end]
    32 5m1B Anakin Changes - 2:22 - Unreleased
    33 5m2 Smee's Funeral - 3:41 - Unreleased
    34 5m3 The Commerce Guild Prepares For War - 1:01 - Unreleased
    35 5m5 Finding The Conveyor Belt - 1:42 - 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:00-0:0:23] / Unreleased (0:06) / [0:23-0:35] (0:12) / Unreleased (0:06) / [0:35-0:44] (0:09) / Unreleased (:40) / [0:44-0:50] (0:06)
    36 5m6 The Conveyor Belt - 2:55 - 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:50-2:50ish] (2:00) / Unreleased (0:13) / [2:50ish-3:01] (0:11) / Unreleased (0:32)
    37 5m6 Insert
    38 5m7 The Senate Scene - 1:46 - Unreleased
    39 6m1 Love Pledge - 2:43 - 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [0:00-2:26] / Unreleased (0:02) / [2:26-2:42]
    40 6m2 Entrance Of The Monsters - 4:25 - 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [2:42-6:58] / Unreleased (0:09)
    41 6m2 Sweetener
    42 6m5 Padme Falls - 2:05 - Unreleased (0:20) / 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [6:58-7:10] (0:12) / Unreleased (0:27) / [7:10-7:40] (0:20) / [8:00-8:15] (0:15) / Unreleased (0:11)
    43 6m5 Insert - 0:19 - 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [7:40-8:00]
    44 7m1 Dooku Vs Obi-Wan - 2:59 - Unreleased
    45 7m2 Yoda Strikes Back - 2:21 - Unreleased
    46 7m3 Finale - 5:28 - 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [0:00-0:32] (0:32) / Unreleased (0:20) / [0:32-1:15] (0:43) / Unreleased (0:25) / [1:15-2:59] (1:44) / Unreleased (0:38) / [3:37-4:43] (1:06)
    47 7m3 Insert - 0:38 - 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [2:59-3:37] (0:38)
    48 End Credit - 5:31 - 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [5:36-end]
    49 End Credit (CD Version) - Unreleased, likely never completely recorded
    50 End Credit (Gelb Version) - 4:38 - Unreleased, likely never completely recorded
    51 End Credit (Updated Gelb Version) - 6:00 - Unreleased, likely never completely recorded
    52 Across The Stars - 5:38 - 02 Across The Stars
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    01 1m2 The Arrival At Coruscant - 1:27
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 27 bars
    Appears on OST: 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:25-1:39] (0:14) - only the beginning of the cue, as the OST segues to 3m6 instead
    Film Alterations: The second to last chord was dropped.
    Scene Description:
    Notes: The first 8 seconds (1:25-1:33 on the OST) are very similar to the same piece from the beginning of The Phantom Menace's score, but it was re-recorded along with the rest of this cue. The second-to-last chord, which would have played just before the explosion, was not used in the final cut of the film. This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    02 1m3 Thwarted Attempt - 3:45
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 64 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    03 1m4 The Meeting Of Anakin and Padme - 1:29
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 28 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    04 1m5 She Hardly Recognized Me - 0:56
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 18 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    05 1m6 Zam's Dirty Trick - 3:42
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 90 bars
    Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [0:00-0-1:02] (0:38) - only the beginning and end of the cue, as the middle 2:40 of the cue is edited out at 0:24
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    06 1m7A Zam Chase Pt. 1 - 3:32
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 158 bars
    Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [1:02-4:20] (3:18) - Mostly intact, but 23 seconds are microedited out at 2:23
    Film Alterations: Guitar solos dialed out
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    07 1m7B Zam In Pursuit - 3:09
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 158 bars
    Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [4:20-7:27] (3:07) - Complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    08 2m1 Zam Is Eliminated - 4:02
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 21 bars
    Appears on OST: 03 Zam the Assassin and The Chase Through Coruscant [7:27- end] (3:40) - mostly intact, missing only 23 seconds that were microedited out at 10:17
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    09 2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - 4:32
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 91 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations: A portion containing the force theme is replaced by a loop of the music just before, then no music, then tracked music from 4m5 and 4m4
    Scene Description:
    Notes: In the film when the 3 Jedi are conversing in the huge hall, a portion of music is looped and then faded out. Originally recorded music containing the force theme would have played here, but instead the scene plays with no music. Then tracked music from 4m5 and 4m4 plays until around Jar jar's line about "muy humility" - that's where the original cue comes back. This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    10 2m3 Departure - 1:44
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 44 bars
    Appears on OST: 05 Departing Coruscant - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    11 2m5 The Library Scene - 1:14
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 22 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    12 2m6 Lunch and the Younglings - 3:55
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 74 bars
    Appears on OST: 04 Yoda and the Younglings - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: In the film, the end of this cue overlaps with the start of the next cue
     
    13 2m7 Approaching Naboo Palace - 2:21
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 49 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations: None
    Scene Description:
    Notes: In the film the end of this cue overlaps with the start of the next cue
     
    14 3m1 Finding Kamino - 1:35
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 36 bars
    Appears on OST: 01 Main Title and Ambush on Coruscant [2:11-end] (1:35) - complete!
    Film Alterations: Only the first 1:10 is used; The ending is replaced by 3m1 Insert
    Scene Description:
     
    15 3m1 Insert - 0:30
    Orchestrator:
    Length: 12 bars (begins at bar 28 of original 3m1)
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations: None
    Scene Description:
     
    16 3m2 Visiting The Prime Minister - 0:48
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 18 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    17 3m3 The First Kiss - 1:57
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 45 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    18 3m4 Interior Tipoca City - 1:55
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 30 bars
    Appears on OST: 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [1:27-end] - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: In the film, this cue overlaps with the start of the next cue
     
    19 3m5 The Meadow Scene - 2:29
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 62 bars
    Appears on OST: 08 The Meadow Picnic [0:00-1:37] / [2:12-2:29] - nothing is truly missing, see below
    Film Alterations: Technically none - see below
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This version was never recorded - see notes on the next cue.
     
    20 3m5 Insert - 0:35
    Orchestrator:
    Length: 18 bars, replaces bars 42-55 of original 3m5
    Appears on OST: 08 The Meadow Picnic [1:37-2:12]
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: The original version of 3m5 was never recorded. Instead, the 3m5 Insert was integrated into the sheet music before recording began, and the revised cue was recorded as 3m5R. The Insert replaces a 10 bar section with 14 new bars, bringing the total amount of bars to 66. The un-recorded original version featured the pastoral theme from the cue (the one appears right after the section in question), while the Insert replaced that with a rousing rendition of the Love Theme instead.
     
    21 3m6 The Meeting With Fett - 2:44
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 49 bars
    Appears on OST: 01 Main Title and Ambush On Coruscant [1:39-2:11] (0:32) - only the beginning of the cue, as the OST track segues to 3m1 after 32 seconds
    Film Alterations: A short section at the end is dialed out
    Scene Description:
     
    22 3m7 The Dinner Scene - 3:56
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 76 bars
    Appears on OST: 06 Anakin and Padme - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    23 3m8 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare - 2:45
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length: 62 bars
    Appears on OST: 08 The Meadow Picnic [2:29-end], which is only 1:43 of the 2:45 cue, as it is microedited twice. A 0:55 chuck is edited out at 2:40, and a 0:03 chunk is edited out at 3:52
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    24 4m1 The Jango Fett Fight - 3:52
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 179 bars
    Appears on OST: 07 Jango's Escape, but with 4 seconds edited out at 3:16
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    25 4m2 Wattoo Describes Mother's Fate - 0:57
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length : 13 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    26 4m3 The Spare Canister Caper - 2:18
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length: 81 bars
    Appears on OST: 09 Bounty Hunter's Pursuit [0:00-1:27] - but with 10 seconds edited out at 1:17, and the entire 40-second ending of the cue missing
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue overlaps with the next cue in the film
     
    27 4m4 The Arrival At Tatooine - 4:09
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length (sheet music): 102 bars
    Appears on OST: 10 Return To Tatooine [0:00-4:09] - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue, like in the film and OST
     
    28 4m5 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping - 2:47
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 44 bars
    Appears on OST: 10 Return To Tatooine [4:09-end] - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to overlap with the start of the next cue - it's even indicated on the sheet music to do so. However, they are presented without an overlap on the OST.
     
    29 4m6 Rescuing Mother - 2:43
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 52 bars
    Appears on OST: 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [0:00-2:43] - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: On the OST, the next cue begins too early. There is more space between cues in the film.
     
    30 4m7 Exacting Revenge - 1:17
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 56 bars
    Appears on OST: 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [2:43-4:00] - complete!
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: On the OST, the next cue begins at the start of the final note of this cue. In the film, the final note plays for a bit before the next cue begins. It is unclear which is the intended segue.
     
    31 5m1A Carrying Mother Home - 1:54
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length (sheet music): 51 bars
    Appears on OST: 11 The Tusken Camp and The Homestead [4:00-end]
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    32 5m1B Anakin Changes - 2:22
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 95 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations: Two performances of the Emperor's Theme from 7m3 are tracked in. As written, the Emperor's Theme is not used at all.
    Scene Description:
    Notes: As written, there was a buildup of dissonant chords that gives way to the big statement of Vader's Theme - in the film, a section of 7m3 Finale containing The Emperor's Theme was tracked in. There is another instance of the Emperor's Theme being tracked in as well. The DVD version of the scene differs from the theatrical version as well, editing the cue further with more looping. This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue.
     
    33 5m2 Smee's Funeral - 3:41
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 78 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue was intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    34 5m3 The Commerce Guild Prepares For War - 1:01
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 18 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    35 5m5 Finding The Conveyor Belt - 1:42
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 66 bars
    Appears on OST: 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:00-0:0:50] (0:50) - Heavily edited, with microedits at 0:23 (6 seconds), 0:35 (6 seconds), and 0:44 (40 seconds)
    Film Alterations: After about 30 seconds, the rest of the cue is dropped and replaced by music tracked from a variety of different cues.
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue
     
    36 5m6 The Conveyor Belt - 2:55
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length (sheet music): 99 bars
    Appears on OST: 14 On The Conveyor Belt [0:0:50-end] - Edited. The rhythmic section from 2:36 to 3:01 is cut down from 38 seconds to 25 seconds, and then a faked ending is used instead of the final 32 seconds of the cue
    Film Alterations: Almost completely replaced by music track from other cues (mostly the Zam Chase cues)
    Scene Description:
    Notes: The end of this cue actually appears before the rest in the final cut of the film, because the Senate Scene was moved to before the Conveyor Belt scene. Therefor, after the Obi-Wan/Dooku scene, the establishing shot of the Senate Chamber is scored with the end of this cue, segueing directly into 5m7 The Senate Scene as intended. As for the rest of the cue
     
    37 5m6 Insert
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music):
    Appears on OST:
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: It is currently unknown exactly what this cue is.
     
    38 5m7 The Senate Scene - 1:46
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 42 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: In the final film, the opening notes of the next cue, Love Pledge, can actually be briefly heard at the end of the scene, despite the fact that the scene was moved to before the Conveyor Belt scene.
     
    39 6m1 Love Pledge - 2:43
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length (sheet music): 64 bars
    Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [0:00-2:41] - 2 seconds are edited out at 2:26
    Film Alterations: Very end is replaced by a timpani roll.
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This cue is intended to segue directly to the next cue, as heard on the OST. In the film, the very end is replaced by a timpani roll as almost all of 6m2 was not used.
     
    40 6m2 Entrance Of The Monsters - 4:25
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 114 bars
    Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and The Arena [2:42-6:58] (4:16), only the clean ending is missing
    Film Alterations: FIrst 3 minutes dropped completely; rest is mostly intact
    Scene Description:
     
    41 6m2 Sweetener - 0:06
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music): bars
    Appears on OST:
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: It is currently unknown exactly what this cue is.
     
    The reason there is no 6m3 and 6m4 is because they were never written; WIlliams had to leave to work on Minority Report, so tracked music from The Phantom Menace was used in its place. 
     
    42 6m5 Padme Falls - 2:05
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length (sheet music): 88 bars
    Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [6:58-8:15] - with 2 sections missing (the 20 second opening and a 0:27 section at 7:10), the 6m5 Insert properly inserted (from 7:40-8:00), and a faked ending (see Notes)
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: On the OST as well as in the film, the 6m5 Insert using the Force Theme replaces the Love Theme originally written. In the film, the cue plays out properly, segueing into 7m1 as intended. However, on the OST something interesting was done. The ending of 3m1 Finding Kamino was actually tacked on! I believe this was done as the true ending of 6m5 doesn't sound well on its own, its MEANT to segue to 7m1. So everything from 8:15 to the end of the OST track is actually the end of 3m1, which is already on the OST in track 1.
     
    43 6m5 Insert - 0:19
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music): 14 bars
    Appears on OST: 12 Love Pledge and the Arena [7:40-8:00] - Complete
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This version of The Force Theme replaces the original version, which featured the Love Theme.
     
    44 7m1 Dooku Vs Obi-Wan - 2:59
    Orchestrator: Eddie Karam
    Length (sheet music): 81 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    45 7m2 Yoda Strikes Back - 2:21
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 63 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    46 7m3 Finale - 5:28
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 129 bars
    Appears on OST:
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
     
    47 7m3 Insert - 0:38
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music): 16 bars
    Appears on OST: 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [2:59-3:37] (0:38) - Complete
    Film Alterations:
    Scene Description:
    Notes: This replacement cue featuring The Imperial March replaces a portion of the original 7m3.
     
    48 End Credit - 5:31
    Orchestrator: Conrad Pope
    Length (sheet music): 121 bars
    Appears on OST: 13 Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale [5:36-end] - Edited (See Notes)
    Film Alterations: Almost completely replaced by Across The Stars
    Scene Description: The End Credits.
    Notes: Coming soon.
     
    49 End Credit (CD Version)
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music):
    Appears on OST: No
    Notes: Coming soon.
     
    50 End Credit (Gelb Version) - 4:38
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music): 108 bars
    Appears on OST: No
    Notes: Coming soon.
     
    51 End Credit (Updated Gelb Version) - 6:00
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music): 138 bars
    Appears on OST:
    Notes: Coming soon.
     
    52 Across The Stars - 5:38
    Orchestrator:
    Length (sheet music): 128 bars
    Appears on OST: 02 Across The Stars
    Notes: Coming soon.
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Ricard in Old Threads Archive? (pre-2002)   
    Jay is right.
     
    There's a GD index page from Jan. 2002 at archive.org, but that's all.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20020127003855/http://www.jwfan.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c50798611c7ffff;act=SF;f=1
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    enderdrag64 reacted to MedigoScan in Henry Jackman's Falcon and the Winter Soldier   
    I agree about episode 4. Not a single track was left to play out in full, and while the Wakandan fight wasnt very long to begin with.
    I am surprised they didnt give us the music for Walker's big shield moment
     
    Also Get ready for this headache of a chronological order
    104
    You're Free (without the drums for some reason)
    Master Manipulator
    Live Accordingly
    Melee a Trois
    A Losing Battle

    105
    Passacaglia
    Once More Into the Fray
    Relieved of Duty
    Sokovian Memorial
    Isaiah Bradley
    An Unbalanced Mind
    Real Partners
    Home Truths 
    Lousiana Hero Reprise

    106
    Opening Gambit
    Leading the Charge (0:00-1:30)
    Flagsmasher Fight
    Leading the Charge (1:30-1:45)
    Fall from Grace (0:00-0:45)
    Leading the Charge (1:45-End)
    Into the Tunnels
    Fall from Grace (2:03-2:30)
    Elegy
    Captain America
    Making Amends
    Never Forget
    Epilogue

    I have no idea where Backstory plays. It may even be from episode 1!
    I cant place the rest of Fall From Grace either.
     
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Bilbo in New Forum Rules April 2021   
    Great job from the mods on this. I think this will make JWFan a better place all round and hopefully encourage participation from new members. 
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    enderdrag64 reacted to BrotherSound in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Oh, that figure would definitely not be all the raw takes. Very often cues are assembled from more than one take anyway. Sandy DeCrescent (orchestra personnel contractor) mentioned JW usually gets down something like 10-15 minutes of finished music per session, which is actually a lot considering the complexity of a lot of it and allowing for rehearsal time.
     
     
    So, Mike Mattesino mentioned in his recent Legacy of John Williams Podcast interview (shoutout to @TownerFan!) that they often just keep recording between takes at these sessions, capturing comments from the podium, false starts, etc. He mentioned he’d love to include some of that in expanded releases, but Williams is opposed, and there’s complications with the union contracts involved (which also comes up with session video footage and photos). Even those Beatles sets don’t include every last take, just ones that are different enough that they’re basically the equivalent of alternates.
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Unlucky Bastard in AOTC Cover Scans?   
    I heard this DVD will be transferred directly from the digital master, wow!
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Gruesome Son of a Bitch in AOTC Cover Scans?   
    We have clones and droids and flying termites, rockets taking off, flying gunships, ground troops, 200 Jedi. It's much, much more complex than anything we've ever attempted before.
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    enderdrag64 reacted to Gruesome Son of a Bitch in AOTC Cover Scans?   
    People gettin' jacked in this movie
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