Princeling1987

I think that the HTTYD Soundtrack Trilogy is the second best of all time right behind the LOTR Trilogy and before anything Star Wars. I think that Powell is the best composer of the 2010's thanks to the HTTYD Trilogy, MNM, Pan, Ferdinand, Solo. So you're damn right, this thread has been a great read for a Powell fan!!

You Sir REALLY need to get hold of the Extened FYC of Bolt. I promise you it's not far from other Powell's 4-4.5 stars such as Mars Needs Moms, KFP2, Pan etc. I agree with you regarding Migration. It is OK, but a tier lower than the ones I listed above and others such as Ice Age 2 & 3, Horton.

I know most aren't fans of him here but Christian Clemmensen made an indepth update to his lackluster original review. Great read. https://www.filmtracks.com/titles/how_dragon2.html I can't get enough of this scores, so many great variations of olds themes, wonderful new ones, constant thematical statements. Pure genius.

The "Valka theme" that you mention is actually the Lost and Found theme. The one that begins "Valka's Dragon Sactuary" with chorus is actually Valka's theme

I made a recap of HTTYD 2 themes a few months ago: New Themes Adventure Longing Theme · 02 Together We Map The World 0:03, 0:38, 0:48, 1:30, 2:08, 4:12 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 1:40, 2:17 · 04 Toothless Lost 0:06 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:48, 2:19 · 10 Flying with Mother 0:45, 1:45 · 14 Stoick Saves Hiccup 0:50 Lost and Found Theme · 04 Toothless Lost 1:30, 2:12 · 05 Should I Know You? 1:45 · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 0:37 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 1:15, 2:05 · 10 Flying with Mother 0:04, 0:25, 1:20, 2:11 · 14 Stoick Saves Hiccup 0:01 · 17 Toothless Found 0:40, 1:38, 2:36, 2:56 · 18 Two New Alphas 0:34, 0:56, 1:27, 1:43 Alpha · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 1:50, 2:21 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 0:04, 3:02, 5:34 · 18 Two New Alphas A Phrase 2:54, 3:23 Valka Theme · 04 Toothless Lost 1:04, 1:47, 2:45, 3:45 · 05 Should I Know You? 0:01 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:03 Drago Theme · 08 Meet Drago 0:08, 0:55, 1:51, 3:39 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 4:13 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 1:13, 2:12 · 18 Two New Alphas 0:03 Drago Threat Theme · 08 Meet Drago 1:41, 2:31, 3:30 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 1:09, 5:51 Stoïk and Valka Theme · 11 For the Dancing and the Dreaming 0:01, well pretty much the whole track · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:02 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 0:02, 0:17 · 15 Stoick's Ship 0:10, pretty much the whole track · 18 Two New Alphas 4:42 Hiccup Adult Responsibility Theme · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:02, 4:23 · 04 Toothless Lost 0:28 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty · 18 Two New Alphas 5:16 Returning Themes from HTTYD 1 Hiccup and Toothless / Flight / Main Theme A and B Phrase · 01 Dragon Racing A Phrase 0:05, B Phrase 0:42 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming A Phrase 1:44 · 05 Should I Know You? 0:45, 1:44 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary A Phrase 2 :30 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast A Phrase 2:23, B Phrase 2:49 ; B Phrase 3:42 · 15 Stoick's Ship B Phrase 3:15 · 16 Alpha Comes to Berk A Phrase 1:08, B Phrase 1:38 · 17 Toothless Found 3:27 · 18 Two New Alphas A Phrase 5:43 Viking Fun Theme · 01 Dragon Racing 0:26, 1:19, 1:53, 3:28, 4:19 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 3:12 · 16 Alpha Comes to Berk 1:30, 2:01 Viking Warrior Theme (Stoick Theme) · 01 Dragon Racing 3:45 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 3:45 · 05 Should I Know You? 1:05 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:48, 3:03 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 0:27 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:25, 5:54 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 1:57 · Viking Aspirational Tune / Enlightenment / Winds of Change · 01 Dragon Racing 2:03 · 08 Meet Drago 2:47 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 1:29 · 18 Two New Alphas 3:52, 4 :25 Love Theme (Astrid Theme) · 01 Dragon Racing 4:02 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:43 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 2:09 · 18 Two New Alphas 4:57 · Dragon Theme · 02 Together We Map The World 1:03 · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 0:08 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 0:33 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 2:34 · 18 Two New Alphas 2:01 Friendship Arpeggio · 01 Dragon Racing 2:15 · 02 Together We Map The World 1:18 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:22, 2:06, 2:45 · 11 For the Dancing and the Dreaming 0:35 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 2:37 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 3:34 · 15 Stoick's Ship 3:15 · 17 Toothless Found 2:13, 2:48 Fate Theme / Hope For The Future · 01 Dragon Racing 2:18 Viking Fighting Theme · 01 Dragon Racing 3:05 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:05 · 17 Toothless Found 3:11 · 18 Two New Alphas 1:39 I'll update it after listening to the expanded edition. Powell is a genius and I'm so disapointed that he is not as active as he used to be.

Powell for me. He is like a perfect mix of my other 2 faves composers: JW and Zimmer. Powell match the orchestral might of JW with the "modern' sound of Zimmer. Add excellent themes and you have in my opinion the best active film composer.

I dont mind inconsistency since most of the time it is due to director's meddling with the composer's vision. I only want the themes of a score to be numerous and used in a multitude of arrangements.

Thank you, I will give it a try especially since I loved the show. Any other score for a film as thematical as HTTYD/SW/LOTR?

Once There Were Dragons was the highlight of that year me. The way Powell uses old and new themes successively is nothing short of masterful. I think each of these scores build on the previous one in quality, complexity and maturity. Diving into such great scores from Powell, it is really hard to get back to other light thematic scores from much less talented composers.

Unfortunately I have tried many times to get into Gia music especially since his output is so numerous (Jupiter Ascending, Tomorrowland, John Carter). But I just dont like his themes, orchestrations and very dry sound mix.

New Themes Adventure Longing Theme · 02 Together We Map The World 0:03, 0:38, 0:48, 1:30, 2:08, 4:12 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 1:40, 2:17 · 04 Toothless Lost 0:06 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:48, 2:19 · 10 Flying with Mother 0:45, 1:45 · 14 Stoick Saves Hiccup 0:50 Lost and Found Theme · 04 Toothless Lost 1:30, 2:12 · 05 Should I Know You? 1:45 · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 0:37 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 1:15, 2:05 · 10 Flying with Mother 0:04, 0:25, 1:20, 2:11 · 14 Stoick Saves Hiccup 0:01 · 17 Toothless Found 0:40, 1:38, 2:36, 2:56 · 18 Two New Alphas 0:34, 0:56, 1:27, 1:43 Alpha · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 1:50, 2:21 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 0:04, 3:02, 5:34 · 18 Two New Alphas A Phrase 2:54, 3:23 Valka Theme 04 Toothless Lost 1:04, 1:47, 2:45, 3:45 05 Should I Know You? 0:01 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:03 Drago Theme · 08 Meet Drago 0:08, 0:55, 1:51, 3:39 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 4:13 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 1:13, 2:12 · 18 Two New Alphas 0:03 Drago Threat Theme · 08 Meet Drago 1:41, 2:31, 3:30 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 1:09, 5:51 Stoïk and Valka Theme · 11 For the Dancing and the Dreaming 0:01, well pretty much the whole track 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:02 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 0:02, 0:17 · 15 Stoick's Ship 0:11, pretty much the whole track · 18 Two New Alphas 4:42 Hiccup Adult Responsibility Theme · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:02, 4:23 · 04 Toothless Lost 0:28 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 0:01 · 18 Two New Alphas 5:16 Returning Themes from HTTYD 1 Hiccup and Toothless / Flight / Main Theme A and B Phrase · 01 Dragon Racing A Phrase 0:05, B Phrase 0:42 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming A Phrase 1:44 · 05 Should I Know You? 0:45, 1:44 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary A Phrase 2 :30 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast A Phrase 2:23, B Phrase 2:49 ; B Phrase 3:42 · 15 Stoick's Ship B Phrase 3:15 · 16 Alpha Comes to Berk A Phrase 1:08, B Phrase 1:38 · 17 Toothless Found 3:27 · 18 Two New Alphas A Phrase 5:43 Viking Fun Theme · 01 Dragon Racing 0:26, 1:19, 1:53, 3:28, 4:19 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 3:12 · 16 Alpha Comes to Berk 1:30, 2:01 Viking Warrior Theme (Stoick Theme) · 01 Dragon Racing 3:45 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 3:45 · 05 Should I Know You? 1:05 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:48, 3:03 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 0:27 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:25, 5:54 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 1:57 · Viking Aspirational Tune / Enlightenment / Winds of Change · 01 Dragon Racing 2:03 · 08 Meet Drago 2:47 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 1:29 · 18 Two New Alphas 3:52, 4 :25 Love Theme (Astrid Theme) · 01 Dragon Racing 4:02 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:43 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 2:09 · 18 Two New Alphas 4:57 · Dragon Theme · 02 Together We Map The World 1:03 · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 0:08 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 0:33 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 2:34 · 18 Two New Alphas 2:01 Friendship Arpeggio · 01 Dragon Racing 2:15 · 02 Together We Map The World 1:18 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:22, 2:06, 2:45 · 11 For the Dancing and the Dreaming 0:35 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 2:37 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 3:34 · 15 Stoick's Ship 3:15 · 17 Toothless Found 2:13, 2:48 Fate Theme / Hope For The Future · 01 Dragon Racing 2:18 Viking Fighting Theme · 01 Dragon Racing 3:05 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:05 · 17 Toothless Found 3:11 · 18 Two New Alphas 1:39 Well that was time consuming but so rewarding. This trilogy is Powell's masterpiece. I'll do the third one next.

HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2 THEMES New Themes Adventure Longing Theme · 02 Together We Map The World 0:03, 0:38, 0:48, 1:30, 2:08, 4:12 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 1:40, 2:17 · 04 Toothless Lost 0:06 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:48, 2:19 · 10 Flying with Mother 0:45, 1:45 · 14 Stoick Saves Hiccup 0:50 Lost and Found Theme · 04 Toothless Lost 1:30, 2:12 · 05 Should I Know You? 1:45 · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 0:37 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 1:15, 2:05 · 10 Flying with Mother 0:04, 0:25, 1:20, 2:11 · 14 Stoick Saves Hiccup 0:01 · 17 Toothless Found 0:40, 1:38, 2:36, 2:56 · 18 Two New Alphas 0:34, 0:56, 1:27, 1:43 Alpha Theme · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 1:50, 2:21 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 0:04, 3:02, 5:34 · 18 Two New Alphas 2:54, 3:23 Valka Theme 04 Toothless Lost 1:04, 1:47, 2:45, 3:45 05 Should I Know You? 0:01 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:03 Drago Theme · 08 Meet Drago 0:08, 0:55, 1:51, 3:39 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 4:13 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 1:13, 2:12 · 18 Two New Alphas 0:03 Drago Threat Theme · 08 Meet Drago 1:41, 2:31, 3:30 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 1:09, 5:51 Stoïk and Valka Theme · 11 For the Dancing and the Dreaming 0:01, well pretty much the whole track 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:02 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 0:02, 0:17 · 15 Stoick's Ship 0:11, pretty much the whole track · 18 Two New Alphas 4:42 Hiccup Adult Responsibility Theme · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:02, 4:23 · 04 Toothless Lost 0:28 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 0:01 · 18 Two New Alphas 5:16 Returning Themes from HTTYD 1 Hiccup and Toothless / Flight / Main Theme A and B Phrase · 01 Dragon Racing A Phrase 0:05, B Phrase 0:42 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming A Phrase 1:44 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary A Phrase 2 :30 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast A Phrase 2:23, B Phrase 2:49 ; B Phrase 3:42 · 15 Stoick's Ship B Phrase 3:15 · 16 Alpha Comes to Berk A Phrase 1:08, B Phrase 1:38 · 17 Toothless Found A Phrase3:27 · 18 Two New Alphas A Phrase 5:43 Viking Fun Theme · 01 Dragon Racing 0:26, 1:19, 1:53, 3:28, 4:19 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 3:12 · 05 Should I Know You? 0:45, 1:44 · 16 Alpha Comes to Berk 1:30, 2:01 Viking Warrior Theme (Stoick Theme) · 01 Dragon Racing 3:45 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 3:45 · 05 Should I Know You? 1:05 · 06 Valka's Dragon Sanctuary 0:48, 3:03 · 09 Stoick Finds Beauty 0:27 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:25, 5:54 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 1:57 · Viking Aspirational Tune / Enlightenment / Winds of Change · 01 Dragon Racing 2:03 · 08 Meet Drago 2:47 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 1:29 · 18 Two New Alphas 3:52, 4 :25 Love Theme (Astrid Theme) · 01 Dragon Racing 4:02 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:43 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 2:09 · 18 Two New Alphas 4:57 · Dragon Theme · 02 Together We Map The World 1:03 · 07 Losing Mom/Meet the Good Alpha 0:08 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 0:33 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 2:34 · 18 Two New Alphas 2:01 Friendship Arpeggio · 01 Dragon Racing 2:15 · 02 Together We Map The World 1:18 · 03 Hiccup The Chief/Drago's Coming 0:22, 2:06, 2:45 · 11 For the Dancing and the Dreaming 0:35 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 2:37 · 13 Hiccup Confronts Drago 3:34 · 15 Stoick's Ship 3:15 · 17 Toothless Found 2:13, 2:48 Fate Theme / Hope For The Future · 01 Dragon Racing 2:18 Viking Fighting Theme · 01 Dragon Racing 3:05 · 12 Battle of the Bewilderbeast 5:05 · 17 Toothless Found 3:11 · 18 Two New Alphas 1:39 One will rarely find a score that is so thematically dense and complex. Themes are stated constantly and in a multitude of different arrangements. Other than LOTR and Star Wars I cannot find other scores that can compete with what Powell have achieved. Can someone recommend me scores that are as complex thematically as this? Thanks in advance.