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Seriously if it's true. I'm happy for him scoring Cap. But I think GL would've had an amazing theme by him. Some of the DC superheroes that's had live action movies/tv shows have had some of the best superhero themes. Williams' Superman, Goldsmith's Supergirl, and Elfman's Batman and The Flash theme come to mind. Giachinno could've added GL to the list. Oh well.

I've heard that it might be Giachinno. I would've prefered he scored GL, but happy anyways if it's true he's scoring Cap.

My head is fine. I prefer Elfman's score. What I mean is that people read too much into his music for Batman. Or at least me, I don't see al these subtleties Richard pinted out, the same way I can't see them in Zimmer's score at all either. To me Elfman's was always your typical heroic action fantasy score that's too much fun to forget. Anyway, I've always had this crazy idea that if old JNH scored one of these films alone, Elfman would shit himself. *cue The Orange Man* The thing is , now that I said that, JNH better return to his pre-Last Airbender approach for Green Lantern. Or you would poop yourself. Oh and Giachinno should've been hired to score GL instead of JNH. Oh well.

Stupid if they did.

Oh stop with the Singer and Routh bashing. Already. After a while gets very old. No. I've heard that it will be a high-spirited affair, with a script from the late Tom Mankiewicz, edited for maximum effect, by Stuart Baird, shot (in Panavision, of course!) all soft-focus-'n-all, by Dean Cundey, and exec-produced by Richard Donner. If only You know Superman existed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before 1978. And that Superman still continues to exist after 1978. So get over it already that Donner and co. aren't working on this reboot. He didn't direct SR or was involved in Lois & Clark: TNAOS, STAS,and Smallville. And he's not involved in the reboot either. So get over it already. The man and his team hasn't worked on Superman since the original film came out. They already moved on. You should too. No offense.

I share that same sentiment. A lot of these blockbuster action scores that come out these days lack the talent and class Broughton brings to his. Imagine what movies like Pirates movies, Iron Man movies, the later HP movies, Transformers movies, etc. would be like if Broughton scored them. He did wonders for Lost In Space. Besides Gary Oldman, Broughton was the best thing about that movie. Broughton really elevated that movie and added a lot of emotion that may have been lacking. Especially with the father and son moments. I never get tired of that Intrada album when I listen to it. It's gets better and beter everytime for me. That's my favorite Broughton score and got me into his music. In fact I listened to this and Goldsmith's great ST:V TFF two Sundays ago. I haven't listened to LIS for few months and after listening to it again it made me think of why I love that score and why I got into Brougton's music in the first. And eventhough I saw Monster Squad years before LIS but never knew Broughton composed it. LIS really made me more aware of his music. As well as made me interested in his other work. In addition to LIS and TMS, I also have Silverado and Tombstone. Which are also great, of course.

As funny as that video was I hated how lazy thay made Elfman seem at his job. This and that SW Family Guy ep. give Elfman a bad rep. That just fuels his haters and what some people think about him and his music. Elfman has a lot more range than that.

It is. Burton's on autopilot. It's just familiar territory for Elfman. It's music Elfman does best. He still tries to be different from his other Burton/ fantasy scores.

Relax Prometheus you act like I said Goldsmith's POTA sucked. All I meant was that I enjoy Elfman's POTA as much as I do Goldsmith's. Is that a crime. I gotta laugh at how misleading your comments are about Elfman's score. Video game score and libraryesque horns etc. Really proves how underrated Elfman's POTA score really is if you think that way. It really shows how biased you are of Goldsmith's score. And how much dislike you have for Elfman. Does it really bother you that someone thinks a remake score by a well known composer can stack up to the original composed by one of the masters of film music ? Even if it's their opinion ? BTW, Elfman's score doesn't feel or sound like a video game score even compared to Goldsmith's score. That's good that you've done your homework on Goldsmith's score. Unlike you I'm not a film music expert or student. With that said I am a fan of film music. What you said still doesn't change the fact that I enjoy both equally. About Elfman's score being textural. It is. In fact I think this is the score where a lot of detractors like yourself say bologna like, "score had no themes". The reason people can't tell where the theme is is b/c the theme is buried in a lot of layers and heavy texture. Therefore it makes it hard for some to comprehend the long line themes. This type of textural style followed in Spider-man, Red Dragon, Hulk, The Kingdom, S.O.P., Wanted, etc. He actually started writing textural scores since Dolores Claiborne. Elfman's POTA is definitely textural and dense. Elfman even explains it in the commentary in the isolated score track for the POTA 2001 dvd. Which you should checkout if you haven't. He kept bringing up how dense he writes. And how Steve Bartek (Elfman's orchestrator/friend) told him that he needed to rewrite the sketches. The orchestra couldn't perform some his sketches b/c of the denseness of his writing was too difficult to perform. And while we're on the isolated score commentary. Elfman also stated that 75% of the POTA score was him(on drums, synthesisers, and percussion) and the other 25% orchestra. A lot of the percussive instruments he made himself, in fact. He really did his homework on Goldsmith's score and was up to the task. He knew he had a lot to live up to and was excited to add his own voice in the POTA scores. He even came on board before Burton was confirmed to direct and before he even asked Elfman for scoring duties. Elfman was also a fan of Goldsmith's score. He knew Goldsmith's approach to the original was too bold for the remake and for any movie around the time of the remake and even today. So writing the way Goldsmith wrote for the Burton film would've fell flat. I also liked that he didn't try to ape or top Goldsmith. He wrote what the remake required and was going for, but failed to succeed at. Burton wanted Elfman to approach the score as two tribes doing battle with each other or something to that extent. I think Elfman succeeded. He wrote a dark, tribal, dense, militaristic, and bombastic score. I don't think the movie called for a score that was going to be groundbreaking and change the filmmusic industry. If anyone came in thinking that then you're bound to be disappointed. I still think he wrote a great score that I believe to be just as dense and enjoyable as Goldsmith's. That's just my opinion. Sorry to get off topic. Eventhough I didn't pick this re-reissue up. I'm happy that everyone's pleased with this unnecessary re-reissue.

Well I know you wouldn't after all you only listen to albums 3-4 times and that's it. Anyways I was only suggesting something that's actually bonus material and not stuff that's in the box and on the original album releases. Besides I was partly joking. I know Elfman wouldn't want anybody hearing that recording. I'm just saying there could've been alot more thought put into this. It was only an excuse to get Elfman's autograph, which I'm fine with. But they could've had him sign the book, or dvd, or the certificate. If they wanted Elfman's autograph added to this. Save a thousand discs for something else unless it's more unreleased Elfman music from Burton's movies. Like the original Elfman POTA war cue I mentioned earlier.

Disappointing. That's stuff that's already In the Box not to mention we got that on their original albums. (The Main titles aand end credits at least.) I've done that b4 where I listen to Elfman's main titles for the Burton films for fun. This ain't nothing special except for the autograph. IMO,there should've been music that they couldn't fit on some of the albums. Like POTA, for example. I remember Elfman said he wrote music for the war scene and Burton liked the " Ape suite #2 " (which was originally written for the album, b/c the music wasn't finished yet for the movie) better and played that with the scene instead. I'd ve liked to hear his original version of that scene and other stuff they couldn't fit on some of the albums. I guess we're never going to hear Elfman hum the Batman theme on tape recorder in the bathroom of an airplane. Oh well. At least the autograph will be worth it. Oh yeah I also notice they're using the original album edits of Sleepy Hollow and Big Fish main title. Instead of using the complete Main Title. That doesn't make sense. When I hear main titles I'd like to hear it in it's entirety. Not an edited version. (that really ticked me off about the Spider-man score album b/c the song album had the complete main title, but the scvore album didn't) They could've at least got that right. That's proof that this was really released for the autograph which was fine but if the autograph was the only thing special about the bonus disc . Then they could've had Elfman signed the certifcates or the book or the dvd. Sorry about this rant and whining. I'm still excited for Elfman's autograph and the box ,dvd, and book itself.

I always thought Elfman's POTA score rivalled Goldsmith's POTA. Elfman's POTA made me a bigger fan of Elfman's. Plus that was one of Elfman's best scores from that decade. The density and texture of Elfman's POTA is just as complex and clever as Goldsmith's, imo. He didn't let the pressure of Goldsmith's score shake him . He was up to the task. And he delivered the goods, imo.

Good news now Snyder needs to GTHO.

Oh yeah. I've been waiting for this reissue since FSM announced that they were rereissuing it. I missed out on the Rhino reissue. Plus my Poltergeist II TDE feels incomplete without it. Can't wait. Plus out of the recent Goldsmith reissues we've been getting lately. This and ST:V were more necessary for one moreso than First Blood since Poltergeist and ST:V were both OOP. While FB is still in print by Varese if I'm not mistaken. But I'm happy for those that want it, b/c of the sound quality and bonus music.

Yeah i agree with some that say this year was lackluster for film scores and that reissues and premiere releases of old filmscores is the main thing that's giving me my money's worth.

Now this is the Goldsmith album (which I do not own) that's been long OOP that needed to be expanded. Not First Blood, which is still in print by Varese.

Yeah too bad for Koray. And I know it's not my business. I just find that rather pathetic. Please stop talking like you know who I am or know my listening habits based off one post. You're right and I apologize. Happy Thanksgiving to you and everyone on the JWFAN forum and network.

I love First Blood in all, but I purchased the Varese album two years ago. And am happy with it. I believe that album is still in print at SAE. Plus I've doubled-dipped enough this year. So I'll have to pass. Oh and Happy 25th to Intrada.

Yeah too bad for Koray. And I know it's not my business. I just find that rather pathetic. BTW, why do you care since you posted 50 billion times that you're not purchasing the Burton/Elfman Box ?

Well looking at your avatar. I'm assuming that you ordered the Burton/Elfman box I hope you enjoy the the 3-4 listens of that $500+ box before you let it collect dust. Anyways this was my reaction when I found out the Burton/Elfman box release date(which I pre-ordered back in October) was delayed to February. But now I'm excited about the bonus disc with Elfman's autograph.

Then I guess that sucks to be you. You haven't tried listening to cds while exercising, ironing, cleaning, driving, etc. You must get bored real easy. I'm sorry to be this way, but I just think its a waste to buy cds (especially if you like the score) and let it sit and collect dust.

And that's hard to believe, why ? I don't have the money for this, but I'm still purchasing it b/c this looks like to be a once in a lifetime oppotunity. And I definitely do not want to miss out. I'll regret it if I did. Bet if they released a Spielberg/Williams box for the same price . You guys wouldn't even hesistate to buy it. So believe it that people are seriously considering buying this. Sorry, I wouldn't buy a Spielberg Williams box. A: I couldn't afford it, B: I wouldn't want to spend that much. But it's not just the money - it's the principle. The fact that the producers went to the film score community, or at least FSM, asked for a lot of input, but then turned around and put a ridiculous price on the box after filling it with junk. And by purchasing, people are saying it's fine for these kind of prices to be charged, which could lead to further issues in the future (hell, people are outraged at the HP7.1 box, also a WB product). I just think the whole thing is overpriced by a lot, and that people should be wary of paying out this much without thinking of how it could affect future releases or the already expensive market as a whole. Fair enough.

And that's hard to believe, why ? I don't have the money for this, but I'm still purchasing it b/c this looks like to be a once in a lifetime oppotunity. And I definitely do not want to miss out. I'll regret it if I did. Bet if they released a Spielberg/Williams box for the same price . You guys wouldn't even hesistate to buy it. So believe it that people are seriously considering buying this.

I'd guess that those cues are included under different titles. Nope. They are not retitled b/c the cd had an unused track called "Joker flies to Gotham" which is also mentioned in the book. So why LLL put that cue but not the other five cues on the expanded album.

There are five tracks that were dialed out of the movie that "Danny Elfman's Batman A Film Score Guide" confirmed. That is now also missing on the LLL cd. Cues are titled "Morning After", "Board Meeting", "Vicki Hides", "The Truth",and "...or their Sons". Anyone know the reason for this b/c I was really looking forward to hearing those cues after I read the paperback a few months ago. And hoped that some label(LLL Records) some day would release those cues when they reissue the album. Disappointing. Hopefully the Burton/Elfman box will include these missing cues.