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Trope reacted to QuartalHarmony in John Williams and Aaron Copland
The tracks from Superman which cover the Kansas part of the story, which Donner filmed in a very Norman Rockwell style was matched perfectly by JW channeling Copland wonderfully.
Leaving Home would be my top recommendation, but Death of Jonathan Kent and Growing Up are pretty good examples too.
Mark
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Trope got a reaction from Bespin in A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) - 2021 20th Anniversary Edition (reissue of 2015 3CD set) from La-La Land Records
So I watched the film for the first time yesterday, and while I felt that the first half was a little bit uneven and I didn't fully "get" the tone it was going for, the last half completely redeemed it. And my goodness, while he stays in the shadows for most of the film, Johnny comes out in peak form for that emotional finale: beautifully subtle and restrained, but deeply moving. The scene where David speaks to the Blue Fairy and "What Is Your Wish?" plays with those beautiful low register chords and choir, definitely caused me to well up a bit. Undoubtedly the highlight for me.
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Trope got a reaction from crumbs in A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) - 2021 20th Anniversary Edition (reissue of 2015 3CD set) from La-La Land Records
So I watched the film for the first time yesterday, and while I felt that the first half was a little bit uneven and I didn't fully "get" the tone it was going for, the last half completely redeemed it. And my goodness, while he stays in the shadows for most of the film, Johnny comes out in peak form for that emotional finale: beautifully subtle and restrained, but deeply moving. The scene where David speaks to the Blue Fairy and "What Is Your Wish?" plays with those beautiful low register chords and choir, definitely caused me to well up a bit. Undoubtedly the highlight for me.
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Trope reacted to Jay in A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) - 2021 20th Anniversary Edition (reissue of 2015 3CD set) from La-La Land Records
Actually, that's not true! Adding the songs caused 2 tracks of Williams score to be cut!!
We actually know exactly what the OST album was originally like before the songs came to be, thanks to early press release / articles, such as this one that still exists on the internet.
From that article:
01. The Mecha World
02. Cybertronics
03. Hide and Seek
04. Stored Memories/Monica's Theme
05. Abandoned in the Woods/The Journey to Rouge City
06. Under the Ice
07. The Search for the Blue Fairy
08. Almost Human
09. The Replicas
10. The Moon Rising
11. The Reunion
12. End Credit
13. Vocalise (Monica's Theme)
I've bolded the two tracks that got cut when the songs got added. The addition of the songs also caused all the tracks to end up in a different order than they did here, and by the final OST most tracks had been edited down further, too
We know the full lengths of the original OST album as well as the contents, because when the 2CD Oscar Promo leaked, all of CD1 and the first two tracks of CD2 actually ARE this original OST album (the remainder of CD2 was all the cues that didn't appear on the original OST in chrono order). So with that in mind the OST would have looked like this:
01 The Mecha World (7:05)
02 Cybertronics (3:29)
03 Hide And Seek (3:26)
04 Stored Memories / Monica's Theme (11:44)
05 Abandoned In The Woods / The Journey To Rouge City (5:33)
06 Under The Ice (5:03)
07 The Search For The Blue Fairy (6:15)
08 Almost Human (4:12)
09 The Replicas (5:59)
10 The Moon Rising (5:54)
11 The Reunion (7:09)
12 End Credit (3:05)
13 Vocalise (Monica's Theme) (4:22)
As for what each track contained, here you go
01 The Mecha World (7:05)
Same as the final OST track of the same name - except it wasn't edited down! 02 Cybertronics (3:29)
Same as the final OST track of the same name - except it wasn't edited down! 03 Hide And Seek (3:26)
Same as the final OST track of the same name - except it wasn't edited down! 04 Stored Memories / Monica's Theme (11:44)
Same as the final OST track of the same name - except it wasn't edited down! 05 Abandoned In The Woods / The Journey To Rouge City (5:33)
Same as the final OST track "Rouge City", except the Strauss quote wasn't edited out and awkwardly replaced with a tracked section of "The Mecha World" 06 Under The Ice (5:03)
7M3 Journey Through The Ice, which isn't on the final OST at all 07 The Search For The Blue Fairy (6:15)
Same as the final OST track of the same name 08 Almost Human (4:12)
2M3 Wearing Perfume, which isn't on the final OST at all 09 The Replicas (5:59)
Same as the final OST track of the same name 10 The Moon Rising (5:54)
Same as the final OST track of the same name, except the music wasn't edited and swapped around, it's in the right order here 11 The Reunion (7:09)
Same as the final OST track of the same name, except the final OST version is actually longer 12 End Credit (3:05)
Same as the final OST track 2 "Abandoned In The Woods" 13 Vocalise (Monica's Theme) (4:22)
Same as the final OST track 9 "Where Dreams Are Born (Monica's Theme)"
In short, the original OST album JW originally conceived is lightyears better than the final OST album we got.
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Trope reacted to bruce marshall in The Official Varese Sarabande Thread
I just received this email from Craft.
Note the expiration date of the discount coupon😒
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Trope reacted to Tom in John Williams and Aaron Copland
And this one, which is brilliant. The focus this part of the film, Unfinished Journey, is American entertainment. Obviously, Williams is scoring it, so it is going to be his music, but he does the whole thing as an homage to Hoe Down--two for one.
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Trope reacted to LSH in The temp track or similarities thread
Two Thomas Newman cues from different films with not just similar names but an almost identical compositional idea!
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Trope got a reaction from crumbs in PRESUMED INNOCENT (1990) - 2022 Varese Sarabande Deluxe Edition
Thanks Jay, I actually just ordered this now thanks to your post. I was disappointed I missed out on both Dracula and Jaws when they came back in stock, so I pounced on the chance to grab this.
Based on the samples, it sounds like it could be a very unique Williams score! I'm vibing his more low-key, minimalistic thriller-esque scores at the moment (A.I. and Minority Report have been on high rotation).
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Trope got a reaction from Jay in PRESUMED INNOCENT (1990) - 2022 Varese Sarabande Deluxe Edition
Thanks Jay, I actually just ordered this now thanks to your post. I was disappointed I missed out on both Dracula and Jaws when they came back in stock, so I pounced on the chance to grab this.
Based on the samples, it sounds like it could be a very unique Williams score! I'm vibing his more low-key, minimalistic thriller-esque scores at the moment (A.I. and Minority Report have been on high rotation).
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Trope reacted to Jay in 'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' wins Score of the Year and Best Adventure Score at the IFMCA Awards
It makes no different in the slightest how this score compares to his other own works.
it's only about how it compares to other scores from this calendar year.
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Trope got a reaction from Brando in New 20 minute audio interview: John Williams At The Movies
So awesome to hear Williams around 18:30 to praising Thomas Newman for his combination of orchestra with electronics and other elements when discussing the future of the orchestra in film music.
And my goodness, is Johnny still so sharp. And hearing all those musical excerpts throughout the interview got me hyped to listen to the score again. It's just such great music.
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Trope reacted to Jay in PRESUMED INNOCENT (1990) - 2022 Varese Sarabande Deluxe Edition
Back in stock on Varese's international site
https://intl.varesesarabande.com/products/john-williams-presumed-innocent-the-deluxe-edition-cd/
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Trope reacted to Dave in John Powell's HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD (2019) - 2024 Varese Deluxe Edition
how, why and what?
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Trope reacted to Jay in Always (1989) - 2021 Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records
Well, to go along with the theme list I made for the OST album:
Here's a list for the LLL album
Pete and Dorinda
01 Intimate Conversation @ 0:32 03 Saying Goodbye @ 1:07, 2:17 05 The Return @ 1:26, 1:57 06 The Old Timer's Shack @ 1:12 08 Seeing Dorinda @ 0:37, 1:54 09 Ted's Heroics And Pete's Aura @ 2:50 10 Pete and Dorinda @ 0:00, 2:04, 3:20 12 The Rescue Operation @ 3:34, 4:37 13 Among The Clouds @ 2:58, 6:27 15 End Credits @ 0:09, 2:03
17 The Old Timer's Shack (Alternate) @ 1:12 19 The Rescue Operation (Alternate) @ 3:35 20 Among The Clouds (Alternate) @ 2:16 21 End Credits (Alternate) @ 0:08, 2:24
Spielberg/Williams track @ 0:09, 2:03, 3:28 Pete
02 Premonitions @ 0:00 05 The Return @ 1:18 09 Ted's Heroics And Pete's Aura @ 1:39 12 The Rescue Operation @ 3:23, 4:23, 4:51 13 Among The Clouds @ 1:58, 4:38, 7:43 14 Dorinda's Solo Flight @ 2:52 15 End Credits @ 3:10
19 The Rescue Operation (Alternate) @ 2:14, 4:22 20 Among The Clouds (Alternate) @ 0:14, 1:17, 3:18 21 End Credits (Alternate) @ 2:53
Spielberg/Williams track @ 4:33 Dorinda
12 The Rescue Operation @ 3:04, 4:06 14 Dorinda's Solo Flight @ 0:38, 2:23
Spielberg/Williams track @ 0:58 Epic Jim Thatcher Horn Solo (resolution to Pete and Dorinda's theme)
13 Among The Clouds @ 3:10 14 Dorinda's Solo Flight @ 1:46 21 End Credits (Alternate) @ 5:00
Spielberg/Williams track @ 2:19 Garryowen (Traditional)
15 End Credits @ 3:46 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (Jerome Kern)
19 The Rescue Operation (Alternate) @ 2:26, 2:37, 3:06, 3:21, 3:41 21 End Credits (Alternate) @ 1:14, 1:47, 3:42 -
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Trope got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in New 20 minute audio interview: John Williams At The Movies
So awesome to hear Williams around 18:30 to praising Thomas Newman for his combination of orchestra with electronics and other elements when discussing the future of the orchestra in film music.
And my goodness, is Johnny still so sharp. And hearing all those musical excerpts throughout the interview got me hyped to listen to the score again. It's just such great music.
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Trope reacted to artguy360 in New 20 minute audio interview: John Williams At The Movies
Funny how JW calls Thomas Newman Tommy Newman.
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Trope got a reaction from Once in New 20 minute audio interview: John Williams At The Movies
So awesome to hear Williams around 18:30 to praising Thomas Newman for his combination of orchestra with electronics and other elements when discussing the future of the orchestra in film music.
And my goodness, is Johnny still so sharp. And hearing all those musical excerpts throughout the interview got me hyped to listen to the score again. It's just such great music.
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Trope got a reaction from Falstaft in New 20 minute audio interview: John Williams At The Movies
So awesome to hear Williams around 18:30 to praising Thomas Newman for his combination of orchestra with electronics and other elements when discussing the future of the orchestra in film music.
And my goodness, is Johnny still so sharp. And hearing all those musical excerpts throughout the interview got me hyped to listen to the score again. It's just such great music.
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Trope reacted to Datameister in Star Wars Disenchantment
No, he's saying it was the Force's plan. It wanted Vader to catch Luke. In the fourth trilogy, the Force itself will be revealed as the true villain behind everything bad that's ever happened in SW. The peoples of the galaxy will have to rise up and go to war with their own midi-chlorians. (That end battle was sure tricky to shoot, back in 2018.)
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Trope reacted to Yavar Moradi in Sony's Marvel Universe (Venom, Morbius, etc)
I had to walk out of Madame Web after only half an hour it was so bad. Clarkson did a lot of very good directing work on TV before this (multiple very cinematic shows like TURN, Jessica Jones, and Succession) so yeah I totally believe she was largely fucked over by meddling incompetent Sony executives on this.
Yavar
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Trope reacted to Holko in Empire Of The Sun - La-La Land 2CD
Just listened to the Matessino-Burden podcast on this and Mike said something interesting: the melody JW weaves into the Mazurka comes back later cleverly.
Running through it in my head... did I get it right?
While the rest of New Life seems related to Exultate Justi - Liberation suddenly makes even more sense now!
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Trope reacted to Schilkeman in Star Wars Disenchantment
L aecmgue GsarIo
"I am George Lucas"
My God!
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Trope reacted to Datameister in Star Wars Disenchantment
@Mattris Copy that. Looking forward to that midi-chlorian trilogy bringing us to your plane of enlightenment, God whilling.
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Trope got a reaction from Davis in Star Wars Disenchantment
Sorry, are any/all of those from Lucasfilm's Star Wars films? I can't be sure unless you provide a specific character and film title. You could be making these up to distract us from the true essence and meaning of Star Wars.