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    Trope got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in Patriot Games & Clear and Present Danger coming from LLL, July 5 2022   
    I grabbed Clear and Present Danger last year, and I quite enjoy the orchestral sections of the score, especially the action writing - "The Ambush" is a highlight in that regard. The extended synth/shakuhachi portions do become a little dull after a while though, especially as their musical construction is so simplistic and repetitive. I've made an "orchestra-only" playlist which I honestly prefer to listen to. And while I don't have the older Intrada edition to compare it with, I think the LLL audio sounds good overall.
     
    On another note, I noticed that some of the takes used in the LLL release are different compared to the 1994 OST. What grabbed my attention was the trumpet flub at 3:28 in "Truth Needs a Soldier / End Title" on the LLL, which is not present at the same spot on the OST due to that section of the piece using another take. I haven't checked which take was used on the older Intrada release. I'm not intimately familiar with every track in this score, so there may be other different takes that I haven't picked up on, but the end titles is one of my favourite pieces and so it stood out to me. 
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    Trope reacted to Bespin in Alan Silvestri - Mouse Hunt (2023 Varese Deluxe Edition)   
    It appears that an official from Varèse has stated that the mixing on the new set was intentional (source: the FSM forum).
     
    Therefore, they do not acknowledge any defects in it. The matter is now considered closed.
     
    In my situation, it's likely an issue I would never have discovered on my own!
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    Trope reacted to fommes in Patriot Games & Clear and Present Danger coming from LLL, July 5 2022   
    The OST, Intrada and LLL use different takes for several cues, and it's a mess to figure out!
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    Trope reacted to ThePenitentMan1 in THE LOST WORLD (1997) - 2023 2-CD expanded reissue from La-La Land Records now available!   
    We already have a thread for discussing The Lost World:
     
     
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    Trope reacted to OneBuckFilms in Patriot Games & Clear and Present Danger coming from LLL, July 5 2022   
    The Main Title, The Ambush and Truth Needs a Soldier are certainly different to the OST, and I think the Intrada release had the wrong takes for some of the film versions.
     
    It's a loooong score, and the synth / sakuhachi cues are not my favorites, but Woodroom / Finale is an absolute highlight.
     
    This score can certainly get the adrenaline pumping.
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    Trope got a reaction from OneBuckFilms in Patriot Games & Clear and Present Danger coming from LLL, July 5 2022   
    I grabbed Clear and Present Danger last year, and I quite enjoy the orchestral sections of the score, especially the action writing - "The Ambush" is a highlight in that regard. The extended synth/shakuhachi portions do become a little dull after a while though, especially as their musical construction is so simplistic and repetitive. I've made an "orchestra-only" playlist which I honestly prefer to listen to. And while I don't have the older Intrada edition to compare it with, I think the LLL audio sounds good overall.
     
    On another note, I noticed that some of the takes used in the LLL release are different compared to the 1994 OST. What grabbed my attention was the trumpet flub at 3:28 in "Truth Needs a Soldier / End Title" on the LLL, which is not present at the same spot on the OST due to that section of the piece using another take. I haven't checked which take was used on the older Intrada release. I'm not intimately familiar with every track in this score, so there may be other different takes that I haven't picked up on, but the end titles is one of my favourite pieces and so it stood out to me. 
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    Trope reacted to JWisgreatestlivingcomposer in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    As a classical music enthusiast, here is my take: I prefer the entire score performed, recorded, and made available for me to hear on an album (preferably, a CD). I know Gliere's Third Symphony is between 72 and 95 minutes long (depending on tempo), but I'd like to hear the whole thing.
    Same goes for a score: John Williams' most recent (and probably last) symphony is his new Indiana Jones score--so I'd like to hear the entire score.
     
    As to the value of selecting arrangements, suites, and some complete cues for an album: I am not at all opposed to this: I personally have more fun listening to Charles Gerhardt's 45-minute Symphonic Suite from The Empire Strikes Back (a suite he arranged with JW) than to the 2-CD set of every second of music composed for the film, though it's great to have the complete set. (Just as Stokowski's truncated version of Gliere's Third is often more fun to hear than the complete symphony, but we can still listen to recordings of the whole symphony.)
     
    But this is precisely the point: In my view, soundtracks should be released in one, or both, of these specific formats: either a Symphonic Suite of sorts arranged for concert performances OR the complete score. With The Empire Strikes Back, we actually get both.
     
    By contrast, with the new Indiana Jones (at least for now), we got neither: this album is not a symphonic suite comprised entirely of concert arrangements. The last few tracks, for example (not including the last, the ASM violin one) are the cues as found in the film. And this is far from a complete score. Thus, including all major action cues (esp. a heavily hyped chase sequence) really should have been a starting point.
     
    In general, I think Indiana Jones scores get short thrift compared to Star Wars: the original 3 SW has Suites as well as 2-CD sets of ALL the music. IJ, by contrast, has the 2008 Concord set which, as good as they are, are NOT complete scores. And then this new IJ, which is 62 minutes (at most, as track 2 is not heard in the film) of score on a CD that can hold 80, and a violin suite of track 2. It's kind of indecisive: does this purport to be the original score or a symphonic suite? Because as presented, it's kinda neither.
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    Trope reacted to Edmilson in Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?   
    How the world will be when Disney release the box sets with the complete Star Wars and Indiana Jones scores:
     

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    Trope reacted to Luke Skywalker in Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?   
    So they have disney characters working extra hours now 😅
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    Trope reacted to JTN in Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?   
    My copy arrived today with this note in the empty case:

    ”Enjoy your M:I score, sucker.
     
    Love,
     
    Lorne”
     
    🤔
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    Trope reacted to Jay in Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?   
    The madness started here, though already the first few responses don't hit the same now as they did at the time becuase their avatars were subsequently changed even more ("I'll cut the tongue" was when he had one with only the tongue removed, then "I'll take it even further" was when he removed the entire head
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    Trope reacted to Martinland in Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?   
    ...and this just happened because my father - for the first time in his life, with 82! - wanted this soundtrack (he really enjoyed the music, I explained the themes to him during the end credits "concert") and so, after our visit to the cinema, I ordered a CD for him too; would never have done that so early otherwise:
     

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    Trope reacted to Jay in Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?   
    Oh I dunno, I think on my setup, with a FiiO DAC and quality Sony headphones, I can tell the difference between ACTUAL 24/48 content in its native file and a version downmixed to 16/44.1
     
    But of course, listening through the DAC built into my laptop, through bluetooth in my car, casually on small speakers or through earbuds, etc, of COURSE 16/44.1 is good enough and having 24/48 files stored on those devices would be a waste of space, indeed.
     
    But I do find it a bummer that our specialty label heroes working on these amazing master recordings of film scores get to master their new albums in 24/48 or higher, but then the labels can only sell their work to us in 16/44.1.  I wish there was a way to sell the 24/48 to those who want it
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    Trope reacted to BB-8 in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    YouTube, Spotify, Qobuz, MP3, FLAC,...vinyl
     
    CD
     
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    Trope reacted to ajc384 in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    If they printed and sold more CDs, they'd have a bigger budget to work from next time.  Just saying...  
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    Trope reacted to KittBash in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    The CD liner notes lists the players and they are the usual suspects of LA contract players that Sandy DeCrescent brings in.
    I've been working on a project to catalogue all of the players and map out who has played on each score and this has led me to digitize all of my copies of the my JW liner notes so here's the list from the Dial of Destiny notes
     
     
      
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    Trope reacted to Jurassic Shark in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    True. If I don't get any colors, I prefer it completely greyscaled:
     

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    Trope reacted to crocodile in Lorne Balfe's MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - DEAD RECKONING (2023/24)   
    By the way, anyone tried the 71-minute Mondo version?
     
    SIDE A
    The Sevastopol (2:07)
    The Phantom (3:05)
    Collision Alarm (1:31)
    A Ghost in the Machine (2:39)
    The Sum of Our Choices (1:24)
    Dead Reckoning Opening Titles (1:13)
    The Entity (3:23)

    SIDE B
    Your Mission... (2:35)
    This Is Not a Drill (2:13)
    You Are Dunn (5:55)
    Get Out Now (1:57)
    A Colourful Past(3:11)
    Roman Getaway (2:47)

    SIDE C
    Hit It (2:11)
    He Calls Himself Gabriel (6:23)
    You Are Done (3:28)
    Chasing Grace (2:51)
    I Was Hoping It'd Be You (1:42)
    Ponte Dei Conzafelzi (2:19)

    SIDE D
    Murder and The Orient Express (3:34)
    I Missed the Train (3:06)
    The Moment of Truth(2:18)
    Leap of Faith (1:37)
    You Stop the Train (3:48)
    Chaos on the Line (2:49)
    Curtain Call(1:01)
     
    Karol
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    Trope reacted to BB-8 in THE LOST WORLD (1997) - 2023 2-CD expanded reissue from La-La Land Records now available!   
    Yeah, but it's causing quite a bit of thread confusion (and has gone "viral"). Hope we don't end up with this...
     

     
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    Trope reacted to mstrox in John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023   
    I love how all of this discourse was moved from the TLW thread to the Powell/Solo thread where it belongs
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