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Also, why does it say "arranged by Dominik Hauser"?
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The BSX/Hauser work is pretty hit-and-miss (mostly miss). Cheapens the music somewhat, and I'm not even sure if the harps in this case are acoustic or synthesized. I must admit that I have no particular interest in this, but in general, I like the idea of rearranging Williams themes for particular instruments.
Talk about a very board and unspecific slam.....
Dominik Hauser and our other artists IMHO have done a pretty damned good job at our recordings, this was a fun thing to release.
Form whatever opinions based on the finished product.
BTW, these are the published arrangements done by Mr. Williams himself that we recorded.
I didn't know that. I'll definitely consider getting Hedwig's Theme if JW arranged it. Is that also the case for the piano version of the Eiger Sanction released a few years ago? Regardless, I enjoy that one quite a bit.
Haven't heard enough of these releases to say if I agree with Thor or not
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I wouldn't perform it either for a Star Wars/Indiana Jones crowd. EOTS isn't exactly hit or Night Of The Proms material.
"Cadillac of the Sky" is about as accessible as JW compositions come. If he can perform material from Memoirs of a Geisha, he could do EotS more often.
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I dunno, does he ever perform it in concerts these days? He did Cadillac at the recent Boston concert, but that was probably just because the CD set reminded him of it.
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Very hard to decide, but I went with JP.
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The cello and bassoon concertos, Heartwood, TreeSong.
I agree with the above.
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In all fairness it is the central set piece and JW probably wanted to open with a bang. He set e.g. Mecha World to open A.I. OST in similar way, whether or not a good choice but I can understand the composer's "musical programme" logic at work.
It's my biggest criticism of albums like AOTC and the original TPM. The remastered Jaws, too. Putting the big highlight right after the main title (usually also a major highlight) so that all thematic development and musical narrative is screwed up and the full programme lacks a proper climax.
I generally view those as being entirely separate listens. I don't think I would listen to both DotF (concert version) AND the complete TPM score. But it depends on the score.
Anyways, this set looks great!
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Superman: The Movie
Superman Returns
Superman IV
Superman III
Superman II
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I wonder if they'll wind up pushing SW to summer of 2016. Aren't they releasing episodes 8 and 9 in the summer anyways?
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They include works in the future, but usually it takes awhile. I remember that by the time Lincoln was added, for instance, it was no surprise to us.
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It seems to me that "serious music" here refers to the formal sense indicated by Miguel, not as a dig at Williams' "popular music" output. Some folks do tend to draw unhelpfully rigid lines between these two spheres, using them as a club; others quibble about the definitions and their usefulness. Nevertheless, this is a well-established academic and critical term and the context matters a great deal. Slatkin has deep family roots in Hollywood, and has championed the works of John Williams in particular. They have been good friends for many decades. I don't see an insult here.
Yeah, I guess I'm not saying Slatkin intentionally condescended. I just wish he was a bit more careful with his word choice
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I just finished the first section, about the classic Hollywood style. I'm really enjoying the read so far--learning lots of interesting stuff about the history of film music. I can't wait to delve into the JW section!
Question for Emilio: could you give us any more info on that great picture of Leonard Bernstein with JW in the first photo interlude? I see it's from the BSO's "Harvard Night" in 1989...anything else you can tell us about it?
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Disappointing to hear Slatkin referring to JW's concert works as "serious" pieces. I thought he was more accepting of film music than his peers.
I really don't understand your point. "Serious" is just a word to describe music written for its own sake. You're just reading to much into it... and the opposite seems to also be the case, as many folks around here seem to have the same kind of attitude towards concert music (or serious or whatever one wants to call it)!
Words matter, and there's a pretty explicit suggestion that concert music is more artistically valid than film music
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JW is rocking that purple turtleneck recently
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Just so ya know FilmManiac, many of the suggested concert works are not as accessible as his film scores. Here's how I would divide the concert works, with the most accessible in group one (these are basically as easy to get into as JW's most flashy film scores) and the least accessible in group 5.
GROUP 1:
- all the Olympic stuff
- the fanfares (Fanfare for Fenway, For the President's Own, Celebration Fanfare, Fanafre for Michael Dukakis, Liberty Fanfare, etc)
- American Journey (the whole album)
- Air and Simple Gifts
- Elegy for Cello and Orchestra
- Soundings
- America, the Dream Goes On
GROUP 2:
- Tuba Concerto
- Trumpet Concerto
- Bassoon Concerto
- Horn Concerto
- Rounds for Solo Guitar
- Prelude and Fugue
- Sinfonietta for Wind Ensemble
GROUP 3:
- Cello Concerto
- Oboe Concerto
- Harp Concerto
- Essay for Strings
- Heartwood
- 3 Pieces for Solo Cello
- Quartet La Jolla
GROUP 4:
- violin concerto (both)
- clarinet concerto
GROUP 5:
- flute concerto
- viola/violin duo concertante
I may be forgetting a few!
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Mine arrived today! Can't wait to start reading!
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Okay, here are my thoughts!
I REALLY enjoyed the composition. The piece, as I mentioned before, is titled "Music for Brass" (although it also requires some percussion). If I had to categorize it, I'd definitely say it fits in the "Fanfare for Fenway"/"For the President's Own" realm. It's more focused than the latter, but offers more variety than the former. I'm not great at judging these types of things, but I'd say it's maybe 4-5 minutes in length.
The opening begins with a rhythmic idea that bears some resemblance to the opening of "For the President's Own." The first section is variations on this idea. It's almost minimalistic in its repetition. I do remember thinking that JW may have gone on a bit too long with this idea.
There are a couple of REALLY powerful, adrenaline-pumping climaxes, as in "For the President's Own," and a few false endings. There's also a bit of the fast trumpet tonguing that is so prevalent in JW's action film music--it was very cool to hear JW's concert and film personas mix so directly. There's also a weird but awesome tuba solo, which quickly becomes a tuba trio (that's right, the piece calls for 3 tubas).
Here are the program notes (written by JW):
Throughout my musical life, I've been instructed and inspired by the great brass players that I've been privileged to work with and to write for.
Because of the breadth of their exposure to so many musical genres...classical, jazz, big band ensemble, military and brass band tradition, pop, rock 'n roll, and on and on...our American brass players are the most versatile and finest in the world.
The invitation to write a piece for the National Brass Ensemble gave me an opportunity to salute the members of this preeminent ensemble, and "Music for Brass" is offered a a humble tribute to their wizardy.
The piece attempts to spotlight, separately and together, the diverse groups forming the ensemble...trumpets, horns, trombones, and tubas...and I hope in some small way it might capture some of the brilliant spirit of 'my friends pictured within.'"
The piece calls for:
- 9 trumpets
- 5 horns
- 5 trombones
- 2 bass trombones
- 3 tubas
- timpani
- "percussion" (from what I remember, this included chimes and xylophone)
It's so surreal to think I got to witness the world premiere of a JW concert work. Absolutely stunning! Cannot wait for the recording!
- Smeltington, Mari, Sergeant and 2 others
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I'm here right now. Second half is about to start, which opens with JWs "Music for Brass"
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thanks! I'll check it out
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Disappointing to hear Slatkin referring to JW's concert works as "serious" pieces. I thought he was more accepting of film music than his peers.
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I just searched "Gloria 2015" and "Gloria spring" and "Gloria year" in my email inbox and I didn't get anything...I don't remember her ever mentioning a date for release
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When was that announced?

New Williams Harry Potter music at Universal Studios?
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This doesn't sound particularly like Williams to me. And I can't see JW taking the time to score this, given his priorities recently. He's willing to score SW7 while delegating the music for Star Tours to Michael Giacchino, but he won't write new HP music unless it's for a theme park? Although it is a bit odd that they only used JW themes, and not anybody else's.
The ride looks cool, though