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What about Jurassic Park and Lion King??Lantern 1993: Schindler's List, In the Name of the father, The Remains of the Day, The Fugitive, In the Line of Fire, Dave, Age of Innocence, Groundhog Day, Nightmare Before Christmas 1994: Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Quiz Show, Ed Wood, Bullets Over Broadway, Maverick, Speed, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Clerks
Yeah..has anybody actually heard that score? did it deserve the Razzie nomination?Ah yes...but let us not forget our beloved maestro's Razzie-nominated flop "MONSIGNOR" (1982). Turn down that "Gloria" track!!!! -
i hope!!
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The score is wonderful to listen to by itself, and it complements the grinning faces of the scene. I admit, the book picture it much different, but for trying to fit ONLY the movie, Hooper was excellent.
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And on topic, there's no question that if it's going to be made, Jackson and Shore should do The Hobbit before anyone else tackles Tolkien on film.
Jackson was already fired...that was a post a long time ago.
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Love the new sig.
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I love WOK, but ET is a much much much much much much much much better score.
Agreed.
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I'm sure I've heard the seperatist theme before, but I don't know it by name. Which tracks does it appear in?
All over, mostly the Kamino cues (which are on track 1 on the OST I think, it's been so long since I've listened to it unedited) and the second half of Return to Tatooine.
There are many different motifs in the second half of Return to Tatooine. Does it start at 5:52?
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the Ministry seemed more of a maze in the book.Wasn't the hall of prophecies more difficult to find?
Yeah, it's been a while, but wasn't there several doors to choose from, only one leading to the Departement of Mysteries?
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Wrath of Khan is James Horner's greatest score ever... for me right now he owns '82. Williams is just perfect and once and awhile you have to give another composer some credit.
E.T. was better than Wrath of Kahn, though WoK is still very good.
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Nobody's going to get that famous off of film scoring any time soon. Howard Shore had a crack at it and he's not going to be as famous as Williams. The LOTR scores may be more popular but his body of work is not very well known. Williams has the pops, lucas and spielberg making him a high profile composer. Oh, that and his music is also very memorable. It will be a long time before the stars align again.
I agree that HS won't become the next JW, but he does have Martin Scorsese, which is like, the third or fourth most popular living director.
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I'm sure I've heard the seperatist theme before, but I don't know it by name. Which tracks does it appear in?
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True.
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I don't think any musician actively sits down and goes "Hmmm how can I rip myself off today?"
When I was a technical director or texture arist, I would get CGI scenes to light or textures to create and I would often catch myself setting up lighting rigs that I had used previously on other commercials, with only small differences. Or I would go about creating a texture much in the same way I had made another one. I had to actively make an effort to try different things in order not to end up repeating the same ideas. Even so it happened.
It just happens. It doesn't mean you're a hack.
Oh...okay, thanks.
And I never said he was a hack

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I never knew....
Do you know of any other scores he does it in?
I thought the director or production company has full rights over the music in a movie.
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I noticed several years ago (before I was a part of this forum) as I was watching HP and the Chamber of Secrets, I noticed something. In the part where Malfoy and Harry are flying around during the Quidditch match, and they go sort of under the stands, JW reuses some music from Attack of the Clones. The music is from "Zam The Assasain and the Chase Through Couroscant," and begins at 2:33, but is heard several more times throughout the cue.
Of course, JW can hardly be blamed, since this was in 2002, and he was trying to juggle Chamber of Secrets, Attack of the Clones, Minority Report, and Catch Me If You Can, but still, just a small note.
This may have been discussed before, and if it has, feel free to lock it. I did a search in this forum, and I didn't see any good results, so as far as I know, this has never been discussed here.
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Does anybody else think that the cue written for the Thestral flight was so woefully inadequate that it borders on being ridiculous?
I never fully realised that in my first viewing, but after seeing the film a second time, this was spectaculary out of place.
I mean, sometimes writing against the imagery is most effective, but this is just wrong.
No wonder it doesn't work because all of Hooper's pieces dramatically lack flexibility. Changing the tone of a piece, required for the Thestral flight, just isn't your strength, is it?
A thundestorm at night over London, with flying skeletons in the air, terrible dread, maybe death ahead, and I'm hearing highly enthusiastic, non-descriptive string pads and a jolly horn melody ...
The Thestral's are supposed to be ugly looking creatures, but sweet and innocent in personality, sort of like a hippogrif, only more extreme for both cases.
The flight is supposed to feel light-hearted elevating, and it does. Hooper's piece is so beautiful and magnificent, and is clearly shows this. It shows togetherness, the togetherness of Harry, Hermione, Ron, Neville, and Luna. It also shows the beauty of independence.
Normally, the director tells the composer what type of mood they want for a certain scene. Yates must have told Hooper than this light-hearted, beautiful type of music was needed.
I'm afraid I disagree w/ you 100%. The music is beautiful. It fits the scene. And if it doesn't, take it up w/ Yates, not Hooper.
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It was a great year for both film and score--just not the best.
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E.T. - The Extra-Terrestrial
Conan the Barbarian
Blade Runner
First Blood
Night Crossing
Wrath of Khan
The Dark Crystal
Inchon
Poltergeist
The Thing
What are you on about Morlock? Which "any years" would you take over 1982?
I can't think of but a couple.
1993.
1989.
2004.
1978.
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Another good year was 1993. Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, Nightmare Before Christmas...
Also, 2004. PoA, Spider-man 2, Polar Express, The Terminal...
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What an overrated year. Yeah, so Conan, E.T. Poltergeist and Wrath of Khan kick ass. That's about it. And only two of these are actually good movies.
I agree...it was a great year, but not the best.
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The only scores I have from 1982 are E.T. and Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn. IMO, they are both magnificent scores.
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What are the EE end credits, anyways? For the OST end credits, I have "Into the West", and then a short, peaceful melody by Shore, but it is defenitley not any scene w/ the oliphants.
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So which 3 of you voted for Williams...?
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This was a really, really, really really, really hard decision for me. Probably the only score in the world were JW wasn't my first choice. Howard Shore was amazing w/ the LOTR, but overall, he is not nearly as good of a composer as John Williams.
In the end, I'll have to go with Howard Shore, because of what he did on the LOTR trilogy, keeping in mind that any other score, I'd pick JW as number 1. But I'd still love to hear JW.

A small, older BBC report on rejected scores.
in General Discussion
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A bit about the rejected score from King Kong. Most is about the aucostics of the recording stage, but there is a bit about the score. Sounded pretty good, from what Iheard. I wish Shore did it so badly!!!!!