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  1. You must admit musically they are at least similar? No?
  2. Before this thread gets locked, I would like to post a random musing I had about this track on twitter the other day: Is the military motif from Last Crusade when Indy has just jumped onto the tank (1:25 into "On The Tank") the SAME MOTIF that is played (much slower) during Raiders opening trek through Peruvian jungle? To clarify: the ominous, searching motif from 1m1 “The Jungle” in Raiders vs the military sounding snare-drum accented march right after Colonel Vogel’s dramatic rise in 10m3/11m1 “On The Tank” from Crusade.
  3. Fascinating and very throughly assembled list, Jay. Amazed I hadn't seen that before. Any chance you made similar grids for Star Wars and Empire?
  4. First of all, thank you for all your hard work on this. It's fascinating to watch these alternate versions. And secondly, do you have any way of sharing the Symphonic Forces videos? I'd love to watch them. I was able to find GoodMusician's forum post elsewhere on the internet - but all the links are dead. Thanks again for your videos!
  5. oooooh sounds interesting! Thanks datameister. This all sounds great!
  6. Wow - I'm not having a good day. Sorry. I can't read music too well, either. But it should be interesting to hear these two cues. Let's hope someone can do that! Thanks Jason By the way ~ the film ending to "death of Kazim" as Indy rides off ends earlier than the bootlegged cue ("The other jones"). Was that done editorially? Insert A is 14 bars, - much closer to the 12 bar film ending (Fix for bar 65) - but Mr. Takis seems to imply that it would replace an earlier insert which was only 6 bars. As I said, I can't read music well enough to answer this question myself. Could the 14 bar "Insert A" be the bootlegged cue ("the other jones") and the 12 bar "Fix for Bar 65" could be the slightly shorter film ending of the cue?
  7. Ah, I see. So we have no idea, musically, what they sound like... Perhaps more "Raiders March" stuff? Perhaps more "Nazi" stuff? Perhaps an unused segment of "birds of charlamagne" that was misplaced? Ok, I'm reaching with that last one....
  8. Do we know what those cues are? I thought they were just the "Raiders Fanfare 1 & 2" from the bootleg and the "Nazi Theme" Insert for when Vogel descends into the tank. But now, looking at your website, it seems those three inserts were already accounted for. What are these new inserts?
  9. "Why am I not going under water?......DEAR GOD WHY AM I NOT GOING UNDER WATER!!!?" - T (Tobias)
  10. Great work Data - as always! Can't wait to hear more of your stuff.
  11. MINE TOO! That was the greatest run of episodes I've ever seen! (Anyone else who chimes in on this, no spoilers please.)
  12. If anyone can listen to the DVD rip or the movie, it should be pretty easy to emulate - I'd imagine at least.
  13. Hey - Here's something I was wondering. Can anyone do a high quality mock-up of the Timpani overdub (8m2) from LC? I have the march arranged like it is in the film, but I don't like the rear channel rip. It wouldn't be too hard to make a version of the timpani overdub that I can lay over the snare drums, would it? Thanks in advance to anyone that has the time and talent.
  14. Awesome. Are you playing a game of dodgeball or are you watching the mildly-hilarious Ben Stiller / Vince Vaughn comedy? I'll take a look at "Alarm" on DVD to see if I can spot the insert(s).
  15. Interesting. I'll have to watch the film to see those. Datameister, do you have time's for where they appear on the DVD? And perhaps the missing "insert 1" is the Scherzo variant you're referring to? And thanks for organizing the fan-created cues on the main page Jason! Do we still have "exchange of glances" anywhere?
  16. Amazing work Jeremy! I also prefer this to the DVD rip. I'm very impressed by your skills and the results! Wonderful! Can't wait to hear you tackle more Temple of Doom or even some of the other Last Crusade tracks ( 9m2 and it's variations? ) Bravo! on another note, What's the story with the "floors on fire" inserts? Were they added to accommodate the extended segment when the curtains catch fire (which occurs differently in the film than the album)? Any idea what these cues sound like?
  17. We have it in sheet music form - but not on any actual bootleg or clean rip, right?
  18. Scrubs is one of my favorite shows. It started to wan in quality during recent seasons, but I think it's bouncing back. I truly love it. The Office (US) is a great one too. The first three seasons are absolutely flawless. Not a weak episode or character among them. The fourth and fifth have shown signs of aging, but they're still pretty good. Arrested Development is the greatest american television program ever produced. 53 episodes - and not a single moment that is spent not laughing. This show is absolutely perfect in every way. Am I over-selling it? 30 Rock. Great first season - funny and clever and well-made. Second and Third? Forget it. Absolute trash. I don;t care what the emmy-voters say. The new episodes seem unfunny, lazy and sloppily put together. I hope 30 Rock can somehow recover. How does it still win awards? I think critics are still feeling guilty about Arrested Development...
  19. "Just a gigolo" is one of the piano source cues (I'm guessing Donovan's party). Elsa's victrola plays "sweet little headache". I think if the other piano cues were written by someone else, they would be listed in the end credits, like the others. Do we know if Williams wrote 5m2?
  20. And this was verified by a cue sheet - or your own guess? I know "just a gigolo" is listed in the credits, but I'm not sure if this was Donovan's party, or one of the Zepplin cues. How would we figure out which ones Williams composed? This also makes me curious about the "Venice Plaza" music, right before the boat chase.
  21. This tracklist doesn't so much represent my current playlist, as much as it represents my dream-come-true 6 CD set. I can only hope that in the coming years, whenever someone puts together the inevitable COMPLETE Indiana Jones collection, they follow this: RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK DISC I 1. Raiders March (Includes Coda) 2. Main Title: South America, 1936 (1m1) 3. In The Idol’s Temple (1m2) 4. Escape from the Temple** (1m3 Insert, 1m3) 5. Flight From Peru (2m2) 6. Government Agents (3m1) 7. A Thought For Marion / Journey to Nepal (3m2, 3m3) 8. The Medallion (3m4 / 4m1) 9. To Cairo (4m2) 10. The Basket Game (4m4/5m1) 11. The Poisoning / Bad Dates (5m3 , 5m5 / 6m1) 12. The Map Room: Dawn (6m2) 13. Reunion and The Dig Begins (6m3) 14. The Well of The Souls (7m1) DISC II 1. Uncovering The Ark / Marion Into The Pit* (7m2 / 8m1 , 8m2) 2. Indy Rides The Statue (8m3 Fix) 3. Through The Wall* / The Mummy Cave* (8m3) 4. Flying Wing Fight (8m5) 5. Desert Chase (9m1a,9m1b, 9m1c - The Complete Version) 6. Marion’s Theme / The Crate (10m4) 7. The German Sub (10m5) 8. To The Nazi Hideout (10m6) 9. Ark Trek (11m1) 10. Miracle of The Ark (11m2 / 12m1) 11. The Warehouse 12. End Credits INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM DISC I 1. Anything Goes / Shanghai, 1935* (1m1, 1m2, 1m2a, 1m3) 2. Club Obi-Wan (Tribute To Vernon)* (1m4) 3. Indy Negotiates (1m5) 4. Nightclub Brawl (1m6 - Does Not Includes “Dance Orchestra” Insert) 5. Fast Streets of Shanghai** (1m7/2m1) 6. Over The Himalayas** (2m2, 2m2 Map Extension, 2m2a, 2m2b) 7. Slalom on Mt. Humol / The Starving Village* (2m3a, 2m3, 2m3b, 2m4) 8. Indy and The Villagers (3m1 Revised) 9. Fortune and Glory* (3m2, 3m2a insert at beginning - replacing original intro) 10. Short Round’s Theme (3m3 / 4m1) 11. The Scroll / Trek to Pankot Palace** (4m2, 4m3, 4m3 Insert) 12. The Emperor’s Entrance* / The Feast* (5m1x, 5m2, 5m2a) 13. Nocturnal Activities (5m3, 5m4 / 6m1) 14. Secret Passage (6m2) 15. Bug Tunnel and Death Trap (6m3) 16. The Temple of Doom** (7m1, 7m2) 17. Stealing The Stones (7m3) 18. Children In Chains (7m4 / 8m1) 19. A True Believer* / Blood of Khali* (begins with 7m4 / 8m1 Insert, 8m2, 8m3) DISC II 1. The Ceremony* ( 7m1a, 7m1d, 7m2d, 7m3d, 9m1x) 2. Short Round Escapes (9m1) 3. Saving Willie** (9m2, 9m3) 4. Slave Children’s Crusade (9m7 / 10m1) 5. Underground Heroics (10m2, 10m3) 6. The Mine Car Chase (10m4 / 11m1) 7. Water!** (11m1, 11m1 Insert ) 8. The Sword Trick (11m2) 9. The Rope Bridge* (11m3) 10. Broken Bridge / British Relief (11m4, 11m5 / 12m1) 11. Return To The Village (12m2) 12. End Credits** (12m5) 13. Bonus: Anything Goes (Instrumental)* (Omits Vocals and Tap Dancing from 1m1, 1m2, 1m3) 14. Bonus: Anything Goes (Nightclub Brawl Insert)* (1m6a) 15. Bonus: Over The Himalayas (Alternate) (2m2 without any inserts) 16. Bonus: Indy and The Villagers (Alternate)* (3m1, 3m2’s original intro) 17. Bonus: Entrance of The Boy King* / Exchanged Glances* (5m1, 5m2b) 18. Bonus: Pankot Palace Source (4m4) 19. Bonus: Parade of The Slave Children (Concert Version)
 INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE DISC I 1. Indy’s Very First Adventure / The Circus Train (1m2, 1m3, 1m3 Sweetner) 2. Escape from the Circus Train** (I1m4 / 2m1x sweetner, 1m4 / 2m1) 3. Portuguese Coast, 1938 (2m2) 4. Packet from Dad* (2m3 / 3m1) 5. Inscription on The Rock* (3m2a) 6. Father’s Study (3m3) 7. Flight To Venice (3m4) 8. X Marks The Spot** (4m1, 4m1 Insert added) 9. The Catacombs* (4m2) 10. Ah, Rats! (4m3, 5m1) 11. Boat Chase* (5m2 “Venice Plaza” , 5m3 Intro, 5m3, 5m3 Mandolin Sweetners 1, 2, and 3) 12. Journey To Austria (5m6) 13. Looking for Henry (5m6 / 6m1) 14. Father and Son Reunited* (6m2) 15. “Don’t Call Me Junior!”* / Elsa’s Betrayal* (6m2x New Ending, 6m3, 6m3 Alternate Start) 16. Marcus Captured (6m5) 17. The Kiss (7m1) 18. Alarm!** (7m2, 7m2 Inserts 1 and 2) DISC II 1. Scherzo for Motorcyle and Orchestra (7m3) 2. Blasphemy and The Road to Berlin (7m4 / 8m1) 3. Der Koniggratzer* (8m2, Includes 8m2 Timapni Overdub) 4. Berlin Air Terminal (8m3) 5. No Ticket (8m5) 6. The Zeppelin* (8m4, 8m6) 7. Biplane Escape (8m7 / m1) 8. Birds of Charlamagne* / Palace of Hatay* (9m2 New Ending, 9m2 Final Ending, 9m3) 9. Brotherhood of The Cruciform Sword (9m4) 10. Death of Kazim (10m1) 11. On The Tank (10m3 / 11m1) 12. Belly of The Steel Beast (10m2, 11m2) 13. Canyon of The Crescent Moon** (11m4 / 12m1, Includes 11m4 / 12m1 Overlap) 14. The Penitent Man Will Pass* (12m2) 15. The Path of God (13m1) 16. Keeper of The Grail (13m2) 17. Wrong Chalice / Power of The Grail (13m3) 18. Illumination / End Titles and Raiders March (13m4 / 14m1, 14m2) 19. Bonus: Keeping Up With The Joneses (9m2) 10. Bonus: Donovan’s Party* (3m2) 21. Bonus: Escape From Venice (Album Version) (5m3) 22. Bonus: Iskendurun* (6m4) 23. Bonus: Death of Kazim (Alternate)* / The Other Jones!* (10m1, 10m1 Inserts 1,2, 3, A and Bar 65 Fix) 24.Bonus: On The Tank (Alternate)* (10m3/11m1, 10m3/11m1 Inserts 1 and 2, No Raiders March Intro) 25. Bonus: Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra (Concert Version) 26. Bonus: Raiders March (Alternate)* (Edited version of 14m2 - adding “coda” from Raiders of The Lost Ark) * = Previously Unreleased ** = Contains Previously Unreleased Music If I ever got the chance to produce this set, I'd be sure to hire Jason LeBlanc and Datameister to double-check the tracklists. I'd hire Lukas Kendall to write liner notes. And most importantly, I'd hire Neil to make sure the pitch is correct
  22. Of course. Thank you. Do we have the sheet music for that source music? If not, is it indicated on any cue sheets, or are you making an educated (and obviously correct) guess?
  23. Here's a quick question: Why is "The Holy Grail" labeled 3m2a? Does the "a" mean that there was an alternate version?
  24. Are we sure of this? And were the piano cues composed by Williams?
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