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Yes, but I ripped it instead from the Battlefront II title videos, it offers a complete rendition including clean ending.
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Well, here's my edit list... it's a BIG list:
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I believe the 'two' takes of "Boys into Battle" are actually the same, just with a single fanfare removed, and taiko drums added. I am also wondering if the ending to the film version fo "Get em, R-2!" was a mix-mash of things, especially considering the ending was altered.
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Some of the stuff which I thought were altered (ending to "Theed Palace Arrival", for example) is not, you can clearly tell by the distortion of bits of the cues. Slowed down, the music sounds grating (goodness, why did Lucas cut so much of that cue? What was the point in it?), but I am certain the UE ending for "Theed Palace Arrival" is correct and unaltered (I'm talking about the trnasition bit that your edit list has replaced in favour for the clean ending from JPB). So here's a list of previously undetected loops and bits in the UE: UE d1 t1 - Fox Fanfare AS USED IN THE FILM UE d1 t5 - The beginning notes are cut down, they are actually a combo of what is used on the UE, followed by what is used in JPB and the TPM game. UE d1 t13 - the final few seconds of transitional music are, I believe, unaltered. UE d1 t17 - the track in the UE misses out a piece of the Jar-Jar theme (thanks to GoodMusician for pointing this out) UE d1 t30 - a small loop is heard as the outcome of the dice roll is shown. The ending is edited from "The Sith Spacecraft", "String Swell" and the sith whisper recording meant for use in "Qui-Gon's Noble End". UE d1 t31 - Not even the film version! The DVD has a loop where it seems Williams left out a reprisal in this take. This loop is heard in the OST album, and the actual reprisal, as well as the film version's ending, can be heard in BF2. UE d2 t1 - A loop of the first notes. UE d2 t2 - Missing a bit of the opening, can be found in BF2. UE d2 t14 - Ends with a combo of the "Forest Mist" and "Drum Insert" cues, followed by an alternate/altered? ending to "Queen Amidala". UE d2 t17 - The film version erases the final timp hit, instead using reverb. UE d2 t26 - percussionless version of "Anakin Defeats Sebulba". UE d2 t27 - I've explained this above. Opening measures are looped. Sith whispers over some of it where it shouldn't be, and possibly the piccolo/flutes where they were not meant to be. UE d2 t31 - I believe the Parade on the album is incomplete, but not as much as the film. The album version skips some of the choral used in the film, but the film omits the beginning major "Emperor's Theme" choral, possibly because it would connect Palpatine to Darth Sidious too early on. I thought those were different drums, perhaps synth timapni, or low timpani placeholders? I'm not sure the taikos were meant for that bit. The mix for the album version of "They're Coming Around" is also inconsistent - loud drums, then gets quieter. Henry, do you have Starfighter and RC rips?
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The TPM game has them over the beginning of the Crash Landing cue, that's what I thought. In the film, that overdub is altered so only the first second or two is used over Qui-Gon's Noble End. There is also an unnatural fade between that material and the theme used when Maul stabs Qui-Gon... the album has a timpani hit there, but it is missing from the film. I'm wondering if some of the BF2 tracks are dropped film mixes? Mainly for Revenge of the Sith...
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What ticked you off? I wasn't trying to come across in an offensive way. I was just trying to help. Thanks, good point. I knew that piece must have been recorded for The Phantom Menace, but it didn't occur to me this was the cue title. By the way, you can piece this all together from Republic Commando and Starfighter, which offer CD quality sound (actually, Starfighter offers greater than CD quality sound). I sadly don't have this Starfighter material, or Republic Commando. Somebody did rip Starfighter for me but left it incomplete, and at 2050hz. Not good. "Courtyard Crossfire" segues into "Laser Fight March." You can hear the ending of "Courtyard Crossfire" in JPB Music4a at 2:38. It's a sustained trumpet note. I believe this ending was supposed to be overlapped/crossfaded with - or just cut straight to - "Laser Fight March," which starts with the same note but does not sustain it. * Since Music4a immediately segues into different material, you'll have to do a quick fadeout and mix in "Laser Fight March" (Music5c) or just cut straight to it. In other words, do exactly what it says in my editing instructions. That bit isn't outdated. * If you're skeptical, there's an edit very similar to this in Temple of Doom - the segue between "Indy Negotiates" and "Nightclub Brawl." Sometimes Williams does write cues with overlapping music, so a simple mix of the two doesn't always do it. I'm not disputing that. I do think they go together in that order. Changing the subject a little, there is something that did pique my interest. I think "Big Army/Up The Wire/Whatever you call it" (for me it's "The Big Army" - it fits the scene I think it goes to, and is on the original cue list) goes before "Droid Battle". Then, we get the unused Duel of the Fates material after that. And also, there is a piccolo/flute dub missing on "Crash Landing". I don't know if this was recorded like DotF Choir/Sith whispers and dropped in at will (since it instead appears incorrectly on "Qui-Gon's Noble End" in the film), but I am sure it goes there. I also wonder if anybody will attempt to create a TFU resource.
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I know, but it's difficult to tell where "Laser Fight March" you have is supposed to start, or is it "Courtyard Crossfire" and "Laser Fight March" that are one cue? I find "Laser Fight March" to be the 'second' part of "Take to Your Ships", basically the part which scores the gungan fight after "Armies Face Off" etc... Sadly I can't release my set. It's not finished, but I can show you the way it was meant to be by LQ files...
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The cues "Yoda Strikes Back" and "Confrontation with Count Dooku" are actualy altered in the film. It also appears Going After Dooku is extended, possibly through a loop? For instance, Yoda Strike Back's opening measures are altered to loop, and there is synth that was not meant to be in there. Part of the unaltered opening is inside "On the Conveyor Belt" ("Oh, my Goodness, shut me down!") and also in the Bounty Hunter promo release. @ Trent - The cue list you based your edit on was incorrect, here is the actual version: 7m End Title Part II is, I believe, a re-recording of the ANH credits. It can be heard partially in KOTOR2, GoodMusician also edited it into his A New Hope set.
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Well, I combine Album, BF2, DVD and TFU and it sounds absolutely perfect to me. I find "I Am the Senate" from TFU all right for editing, although I reduce the bass a little, then it seems to fit better. I also combine the material of Ambush on Coruscant - TFU clean opening, album, Galaxies ending, DVD< TFU. Adding to the list of distorted cues from TFU: - They're Coming Around (film mix, same as BF2) - They're Coming Around/Get Em, R-2! (film mix, new for TFU) - Elevator Scene/Get 'Em, R-2! - The Conveyor Belt (Film mix) There's a few more.
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I have a laptop.
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Sadly I don't know how to record from the XBox360 version.
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It does if you go to options/audio/Music volume.
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Yeah, but I tried suspect pieces from both TPM and AotC and nothing seems to fit at all.
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Hey, there was a small bridge piece between the "Yoda Strikes Back" and "Chase Through Coruscant" music in the Conveyor belt - a small fanfare played as Padme falls into the vat. Where does this go?
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I still think there was more of a pause, or perhaps we are still missing a piece, but the music as is on the album does not fit with the film. Or perhaps the scene was shorter, but I can't find a way to make the scene shorter so it fits.
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The 'percussion' version of the second part (found in Battlefront II) lacks the low bass note, and to be honest, I barely notice the bass note. I don't even bother with reverb (not exactly - I take a small sample sometimes and flip it backwards and fade it out)
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I am not a member, so I wouldn't know. In my edit, I always split the track.
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Perhaps. But the cue lists... are they complete? The original one posted in the first post on this thread for TPM was wrong (not by far, but it was wrong)
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mxTIE_jwPanelFabHall_lp.wav It's listed as "Elevator Scene" but is a separate cue "General Grievous".
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Yeah, TFU has a clean opening for "They're Coming Around" as well, and a full version of "General Grievous", cleaned openings and endings for various cues in all three prequels etc... Have you heard the Bounty Hunter OST? There's some John Williams material, including cut-down version of the unaltered opening of "Yoda Strikes Back".
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It does not say. I guess so.
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Yeah, it seems the XBox 360 discs have two partitions - one which is recognized by the PC as a normal DVD and one which contains the game... nobody has figured out how to emulate the console yet either, so there is no way to access partition...
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Yeah, I have the XBox 360 version, but nobody has figured out how to rip that yet. Henry, TPM Gas Leak and ROTS Enter Lord Vader is slightly too fast.
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Thankfully. Most of the stuff in TFU that is badly distorted is mixes that are available in Battlefront II anyway. I hope Battlefront III has some good stuff when it comes out.
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Why else? They don't want bootlegs.
