BTR1701
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Article gives some of the details about Williams' score preparation and the part Joann Kane Music plays in it. http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/may-the-fourth-spotlight-on-joann-kane-music/?utm_source=responsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=junenewsletter
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Hey, everyone has brain farts now and then. And at the time, no one expected the movie to be a hit or to spawn six sequels, so continuity wasn't a concern. -
Well, Williams sure did a strange job of using a supposedly Rebel motif to emphasize the Imperial presence on screen. All throughout the film, it's used to accentuate the Empire, not the Rebels. Why is it playing triumphantly as the Falcon is captured by the Death Star? Who's winning there? Not the Falcon-- which isn't even a Rebel ship at that point, nor are its occupants part of the Rebellion. Even during the TIE fighter attack after the Falcon escapes the Death Star, the fanfare plays every time we see the TIEs strafing the Falcon, not when the Falcon fires back and destroys them. And why would Williams use a Rebel motif over a scene of Vader heading off into space in his TIE at the end? I'm not denying what Williams said in the liner notes. I'm just saying it doesn't track with how the theme was actually used in the film. No, it comes from my observation of the actual film and the music's placement in it.
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Yes, it's become the Rebel Fanfare, but it seems obvious that Williams originally intended it to be an Imperial theme in the first film. It's first appearance in the score isn't when the Tantive IV races across the screen, but rather when the Star Destroyer following it appears. Likewise, during the subsequent gun battle, it heralds the entrance of the stormtroopers onto the Rebel ship. When the Falcon gets caught in the Death Star's tractor beam, Williams has that fanfare playing triumphantly as they are drawn into the hangar bay, and even at the very end, after Luke destroys the Death Star and we see the remaining Rebel ships heading back to base, the film cuts to Vader stabilizing his TIE fighter and flying off into space accompanied by a light, dancing version of that fanfare in the flutes. It seems clear to me that when Williams wrote the score to ANH, that fanfare was an Imperial motif and it's strange how in later films it did a 180 and became the herald of the Rebellion.
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It was very much in the tradition of Williams's original trilogy scores. Jyn and Krennic had distinct thematic material. Not sure about the other characters-- like I said, I wasn't paying that close attention. Several instances of Vader's theme, the Star Wars main title theme, and that recurring swashbuckling theme that's been in all the films but which doesn't have a name as far as I know:
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I went to the premiere last night in Hollywood, but I was paying way too much attention to the movie to give a detailed review of the score. Will have to see it again or wait for the soundtrack release for that.
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Ah, okay. I'm surprised it's not on iTunes, either. Usually by the time a film premieres, the soundtrack goes up, even if it isn't playing for the general public yet.
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Excerpts from two cues in this video: http://lrmonline.com/news/star-wars-rogue-one-take-a-first-listen-to-michael-giacchinos-original-score-for-the-flick
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Nah, don't need a lawyer. I am one, and I even specialized in intellectual property law back in law school. <mind blown>
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No, it's not a crime. Downloading for personal use is only civil infringement. Criminal copyright infringement requires mass duplication and sale of unauthorized copies.
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Whether a character is primary or secondary doesn't really matter regarding the emotional authenticity of the scene. The decades-long history between Leia and Chewie would logically lead to them embracing and seeking solace together over a shared emotional trauma. Not for Leia to run up and hug someone she'd never even met instead.
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She dissed him during the medal ceremony in the first film, also. She gave everyone a medal for destroying the Death Star except Chewie. Leia is a Chewie-bigot! A Wookie-phobe!
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No, the definition of "troll" is not "anyone who challenges anything you say".
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Anything "can be argued". Taking that literally renders your comment meaningless. The implication is that you're suggesting the argument has some merit, otherwise why bring it up to begin with?
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Why is it not "real" Star Wars? Because it doesn't suck?
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There's a lesson in there somewhere for you.
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Newbie? LOL! Whatever, dude.
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Don't be ridiculous. The studio musicians in Hollywood are some of the best in the world. Not many professional symphony orchestra players could do what they do on a regular basis. Many cues/scores are sight-read and recorded on the first take with no rehearsal. On the other hand, even the vaunted London Symphony has had its screw-ups. There are so many split notes in the French horns in New Hope's "TIE Fighter Attack", I'm amazed to this day that Williams let that take stand without doing it again. And at 3:57 in Last Crusade's "Belly of the Steel Beast", the trumpets are so flat in makes me cringe every time I hear it. Every performance of every score has it's minor flubs, no matter the orchestra playing it. People aren't computers and don't deliver perfect performances. Thank god.
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That's what they want you to think.
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Or Palpatine killed him in such a way that he just assumed he dead when he wasn't. He got better!
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Sorry, didn't have time to wade through 30+ screens of comments.
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Maybe the fact that it's an almost note-for-note lift means something. After all, Snoke's true identity is one of big questions left unanswered, and the scene in SITH from which Snoke's theme comes was when Palpatine was relating the story of Darth Plagueis to Anakin. Could this be Williams' way of hinting at Snoke's real identity? This is why it's important to buy things (books, music, movies, etc.) on physical medium. Otherwise everything you think you "own" can be deleted at the whim of some corporation.
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Scenes of Williams scoring the soundtrack. http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/preview-the-new-force-behind-star-wars/
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Considering that was the whole point of my original comment, yeah. And if you don't want an orchestra to sound like an orchestra, why bother with using one? They're expensive and time-consuming. If you want a bunch of electronically-mixed down nonsense, just have the computer generate it in the first place.
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No, they don't. If you stand in the studio and listen to the orchestra playing it won't sound anything like that recording.
