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igger6 reacted to Falstaft in The Force Awakens - Complete Score Breakdown & Chronological Order (Film Spoilers Allowed)
Oh, no, they're all accounted for
They do have quite a lot in common with each other (and with generic Williams action & suspense music too). Assigning them motivic status is complicated by the fact that they interact with and may be derived from or sources for other more clearly articulated leitmotifs. But that's what the "Incidental Motif" category exists for!
The tension/resistance deployed/resistance in trouble motif in particular gets an incredible work out in TLJ: nearly 40 occurences, and almost double that if you include local repetitions.
I'm not sure the First Order theme gets much play after TFA, and even there is clearly a thematic afterthought whose biggest appearance didn't even make the final cut. The moments you cited in TLJ seem in the right ballpark but are inexact in terms of contour and pitch content compared to the First Order theme proper. That said, the little motif at 31:07 is quite similar to a brass figure in The Battle of Crait that I hadn't noticed until now, so you are on to something!
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igger6 got a reaction from Falstaft in The Force Awakens - Complete Score Breakdown & Chronological Order (Film Spoilers Allowed)
@TheAvengerButton I meant the former, actually, the one you called "Rising Power." To be honest, in my mind, the latter one never really rose above the formless masses of Williams "musical action figures," so to speak―those little four- and five-note motifs that he'll fixate on from time to time, especially in The Last Jedi.
I don't think @Falstaft has included any of those in his catalogue, since they all seem to signify nothing more or less than "wars are happening amid stars!" If I recall, though, folks around here classified one of them as the "Quidditch" melody back in 2017, based on its similarity to "Quidditch, Third Year."
But back to the First Order motif. It pops up here and there in TLJ, almost always in fragmented but recognizable form. If you have access to the iso score on Disney+, there's a moment at exactly 20:00 when Rey is filling Luke in on the current war, and when she says soon the First Order will control everything, we get the first half of the theme (a rise and a half, if you will). It shows up again right after Leia's "death," when Hux is discussing continuing the bombardment around 31:07 on the iso score. I don't know if either of these moments appears on any of the OST or FYC tracks. There are more, but those are the first two I noticed listening to it as I type this.
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igger6 got a reaction from Smeltington in John Williams & the Vienna Philharmonic: January 18/19 2020
...which will trigger the final encore, "Ewok Celebration."
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igger6 got a reaction from Disco Stu in John Williams interviewed by Conrad Pope (about Conrad Salinger)
"...I knew Fred [Astaire!!!] a little bit..."
Sheesh, think of the eras spanned by the people with whom he's on a first-name basis. What a career. What a life.
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igger6 reacted to Holko in Performance of Harry Potter Suite by Hungarian orchestra.
Whew. I gotta stop somewhere. The rest is coming tomorrow.
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igger6 reacted to Bellosh in Favourite JW Alternate Cues
While not John Williams, can we agree one of the greatest alternate tracks of ALL TIME is John Barry's 'The Buffalo Hunt' from Dances with Wolves.
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igger6 reacted to Jurassic Shark in Remasters of the First 6 Star Wars Soundtracks now available (Shawn Murphy / Disney Records 2018)
I bet it's the guitarist doing a prank!
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igger6 got a reaction from The Illustrious Jerry in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
100% confirmed. John Williams leaves his Christmas decorations up all year.
Also, congrats, @Will! I remember when you were just a youngling around here, back in the TFA days. Sorry your senior year had to end on Zoom, but at least you now have the choice of "The Rise of Skywalker" and "Reunion" to go along with "The Throne Room" and "Augie's Great Municipal Band" on your virtual graduation playlist!
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igger6 reacted to 1977 in Wampa and Circumstance: Your JW Graduation Playlist
Exsultate Justi
repeat.
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igger6 got a reaction from Jay in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
100% confirmed. John Williams leaves his Christmas decorations up all year.
Also, congrats, @Will! I remember when you were just a youngling around here, back in the TFA days. Sorry your senior year had to end on Zoom, but at least you now have the choice of "The Rise of Skywalker" and "Reunion" to go along with "The Throne Room" and "Augie's Great Municipal Band" on your virtual graduation playlist!
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igger6 got a reaction from Fabulin in Wampa and Circumstance: Your JW Graduation Playlist
In honor of all our Class of 2020 graduates forced to walk virtual stages for their diplomas, this year, let's curate a majestic processional playlist of JW tunes! I'm fortunate enough to teach at a high school that has finished every graduation for the last two decades with a live student performance of the march from 1941 or, in more recent years, Midway. (No, that's not why I teach there, but it helps! )
For starters...
The Throne Room
Raiders March (non-Marion arrangement)
March from 1941
Midway March
Men of the Yorktown March
Pops on the March
Celebrate Discovery
Jubilee 350
Parade of the Slave Children (ironic title in context)
Hogwarts Forever!
Sound the Bells!
What did I miss?
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igger6 got a reaction from Bespin in Wampa and Circumstance: Your JW Graduation Playlist
In honor of all our Class of 2020 graduates forced to walk virtual stages for their diplomas, this year, let's curate a majestic processional playlist of JW tunes! I'm fortunate enough to teach at a high school that has finished every graduation for the last two decades with a live student performance of the march from 1941 or, in more recent years, Midway. (No, that's not why I teach there, but it helps! )
For starters...
The Throne Room
Raiders March (non-Marion arrangement)
March from 1941
Midway March
Men of the Yorktown March
Pops on the March
Celebrate Discovery
Jubilee 350
Parade of the Slave Children (ironic title in context)
Hogwarts Forever!
Sound the Bells!
What did I miss?
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igger6 got a reaction from Taikomochi in Wampa and Circumstance: Your JW Graduation Playlist
In honor of all our Class of 2020 graduates forced to walk virtual stages for their diplomas, this year, let's curate a majestic processional playlist of JW tunes! I'm fortunate enough to teach at a high school that has finished every graduation for the last two decades with a live student performance of the march from 1941 or, in more recent years, Midway. (No, that's not why I teach there, but it helps! )
For starters...
The Throne Room
Raiders March (non-Marion arrangement)
March from 1941
Midway March
Men of the Yorktown March
Pops on the March
Celebrate Discovery
Jubilee 350
Parade of the Slave Children (ironic title in context)
Hogwarts Forever!
Sound the Bells!
What did I miss?
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igger6 got a reaction from Will in Wampa and Circumstance: Your JW Graduation Playlist
In honor of all our Class of 2020 graduates forced to walk virtual stages for their diplomas, this year, let's curate a majestic processional playlist of JW tunes! I'm fortunate enough to teach at a high school that has finished every graduation for the last two decades with a live student performance of the march from 1941 or, in more recent years, Midway. (No, that's not why I teach there, but it helps! )
For starters...
The Throne Room
Raiders March (non-Marion arrangement)
March from 1941
Midway March
Men of the Yorktown March
Pops on the March
Celebrate Discovery
Jubilee 350
Parade of the Slave Children (ironic title in context)
Hogwarts Forever!
Sound the Bells!
What did I miss?
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igger6 got a reaction from Will in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
100% confirmed. John Williams leaves his Christmas decorations up all year.
Also, congrats, @Will! I remember when you were just a youngling around here, back in the TFA days. Sorry your senior year had to end on Zoom, but at least you now have the choice of "The Rise of Skywalker" and "Reunion" to go along with "The Throne Room" and "Augie's Great Municipal Band" on your virtual graduation playlist!
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igger6 reacted to Sandor in THE RIVER expanded and remastered by Mike Matessino now available from Intrada Records
It was the 80's!
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igger6 got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
100% confirmed. John Williams leaves his Christmas decorations up all year.
Also, congrats, @Will! I remember when you were just a youngling around here, back in the TFA days. Sorry your senior year had to end on Zoom, but at least you now have the choice of "The Rise of Skywalker" and "Reunion" to go along with "The Throne Room" and "Augie's Great Municipal Band" on your virtual graduation playlist!
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igger6 reacted to MikeH in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
“Hello JAWSFANS.COM. I’m John Williams...”
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igger6 reacted to JohnnyD in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
That was a really nice message from the Maestro. God bless him.
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igger6 reacted to Marian Schedenig in John Williams’ message to USC Thornton Graduates
We need a separate John Williams COVID-19 Home Videos thread.
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igger6 got a reaction from mahler3 in THE RIVER expanded and remastered by Mike Matessino now available from Intrada Records
Actually, Matessino's liner notes explain that it's an expansion of a motif in "Dialing the Hospital" created specifically for the album as a showcase for flute and guitar soloists.
Unrelatedly, I want to nominate "Leaving Home (Film Version)" as the closest the Maestro ever came to '80s hip-hop percussion. For all we know, those drums might actually be the sound of Johnny beatboxing...
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igger6 reacted to Marian Schedenig in John Williams and the Berlin Philharmonic...?
I'm fine with him taking a ship. I don't need him to fly.
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igger6 reacted to mstrox in THE RIVER expanded and remastered by Mike Matessino now available from Intrada Records
True - it’s important to support struggling businesses like Amazon, now more than ever!
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igger6 reacted to kelliwisethebrave in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!
I started watching the video but stopped when I realized it wasn't going to make me feel better about anything.
There are things I love in the movie, there are things I hate in the movie (and I've been complaining about them myself for the last four months). Still being able to love the things I do enjoy instead of throwing the whole thing away is important to me after being obsessed with the sequel trilogy for over 4 years. A big part of that is of course the soundtrack.
On that note, I'm curious, @BrotherSound what was the main theme he complained about?