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  1. I got mine and gave it a listen. I love the music, both scores are awesome! The phasing issues I can hear...I noticed something was weird on the affected tracks and then came here to see if anyone else noticed. And yes, I see some have. I'm surprised it was not caught. Disappointing for sure because I really like the music and the performances.
  2. I decided not to listen to samples, waiting until the set comes in the mail.
  3. Wow, what a nice looking tracklist. I didn't expect this release to have so much music to explore, what a welcome treat!
  4. I thank @Yavar Moradi very much for inspiring you to go through all of Checkmate! I look forward to it all. I listened to Episode 5 during the week and took some notes as I went along as usual. Thank you again, another great episode. This one had some real unknowns to me and I found it fascinating to learn about them. Convoy I didn't know anything about this one. Really interesting to me that the only episode that has surfaced is one of Williams' two scored episodes. Wow, I'd love to hear the at-least-one episode that Waxman did! Great Main Title by Bernard Herrmann, I really liked it! I'd love to find out more about this show and who else composed music for the other episodes. I do hope the whole series surfaces some day. As for John Williams' score to the Episode 5 from the series, I enjoyed hearing the dramatic string parts playing over the sustained chords in the horns and then the classic militaristic percussion with punchy brass on top. He does this kind of thing with the staccato brass punches and snares underneath in other scores, though I can't quite point out which ones...maybe in Midway, and with comical flavor in John Goldfarb. I hear some parallel moving chords in the horns in this clip. This is cool to hear here and in another clip I recall from Episode 4 of this podcast series. I used to think that Williams 'started' up a tendency for parallel chord movement in Star Wars, being inspired by Holst's The Planets which has a lot of that in Mars, but now I see that he was already doing that as part of his musical language. I had a similar thought during the clip of the 'love theme' as you called it; hearing the strings carry the love theme with some repeating/ pulsing brass chords underneath is cool because he composes in a similar manner on some quotes of Marion's theme in Raiders and in Across the Stars from ATOC. Anyway, it's cool to hear some of the Williams-isms in this earlier TV work, because it gives me a more whole understanding of his compositional tendencies which, though things evolved over time in different ways, certain ideas were in his compositional toolkit since very early on. And Baby Makes Three Wow this theme is really quite cute and I hear some really quirky comedy writing. I know some folks don't care for these kind of scores, but I love them. I'd really love for this one to be released someday. Who Goes There? I have never heard of this one. I see what you mean, another catchy tune here! Also, I was surprised to hear Williams quoting the song 'tiptoe through the tulips' in the woodwinds in these clips. I wonder what that is corresponding to onscreen and what meaning it has in the show itself. Nightwatch I remember listening to this from the FSM CD late one winter night. Always is exciting to listen to something from JW that is completely new to me, and that's what I recall about hearing it that night. I enjoy this moody, darker score. Wayne and Shuster... Wow, also never had heard of this before! How interesting. What an interesting concept for a show. I like the mystery around this...we don't know how many episodes Williams was involved with but at least two (?) It has quite a quirky theme. I'm going to have to re-listen to it tomorrow as it didn't stick with me very much. The Tammy Grimes Show Interesting failure story about what happened to this show. My goodness the Main Title is funny, though I like it as well, even the corny 'yeah yeah yeah' singing going on. It gives me 'Guide for the Married Man vibes' and I am actually a fan of that score, so I like this too. The Time Tunnel I knew...but had forgotten that the Williams episode was about the Titanic. Haha, funny how you mention that now we can compare Williams' Titanic efforts with Horner's and Barry's. I do very much enjoy the quirky ticking Main Title theme. I think it's a really creative Main Title...I would love to have heard his thought process in deciding what to compose when he constructed it. The harp/vibraphone + swirly flute stuff is always so evocative of the flashback/dream sequence/time travel feel. Land of the Giants I also find this Main Title to be really creative. This one gets stuck in my head at times and the French horn trills make me chuckle. I think I find the scores to Land of the Giants and Lost in Space less accessible to The Time Tunnel. I am going to go back and listen through all 3 of these soon and refresh my perspective. CBS Playhouse Wow, another fascinating mystery here. a 90 minute episode which is not able to be located currently. With the episode being 90 minutes, I wonder how much score there is. From the description of the episode, I imagine it is a drama and probably doesn't have any or much action music, but who knows what interesting music there could be here. I hope it can be located someday soon. Heidi I won't say much about Heidi except I've always loved this one. A lot of beautiful writing throughout and the main theme puts a smile on my face. I may have some additional thoughts on to post later on about this one as there is a lot here I found really interesting and fun to learn about. Thanks again @Thor for putting these together.
  5. That's awesome! Nice playing! Seth should start posting on JWFan, I bet he'd be super fun.
  6. Sabrina has always been a pleasant OST to listen through. I'm excited to see what Mike does with it!
  7. I listened to Part 4 @Thor. I'm going to be sad when these are done, it's been great fun to explore and discover this music! Bob Hope Presents the Chrysler Theatre That's a beautiful main theme. Really nice and varied. I hadn't heard this before and I'd love to hear this in better quality someday I hope. The parallel moving chords in S01E06 One Day in the Life of..., remind me of Star Wars a little bit. Strange that the Ryker theme shows up in this series too. It's like the John Williams TV Cinematic Universe Theme. S01E20 White Snow, Red Ice has such a super fun opening cue. I really enjoy the humorous brass underneath the soaring strings line. I enjoyed the timpani and brass bits in clip no. 2, and I think I hear that the similar flourish motif from the 1st clip returns for the 3rd clip. Interesting that the remaining seasons are a bit mysterious still, that we don't know for sure how many episodes Williams wrote music for nor have they been identified. Still more interesting things to unearth someday! Gilligan's Island Huh, wow so it never clicked in my mind that Williams only wrote the pilot episode and then his music was tracked into other episodes. I mentioned previously that when I was a kid, we had some Gilligan's Island episodes (including the pilot) on VHS tapes that I would watch over and over, and so after Star Wars, it was the next thing from John Williams that I became familiar with, though not knowing as a child that it was the same composer. I didn't become fascinated with movie scores until my teens. The clips of Gilligan's Island really make me smile. I really love the silly, quirky, chromatically moving theme that has jazz/ swing qualities to it. I'd definitely enjoy a release of all Williams' music from the pilot to appear perhaps on some TV compilation in the future. Inside the Movie Kingdom Whoa...crazy to learn about and hear music from something that is basically a new discovery. Some interesting 'bouncing' brass parts and woodwind runs...then a cool march which reminds me very much of the Ferris Wheel March from Not With My Wife You Don't! Clip 3 has some nice romantic strings...crazy to think how this music has been heard by very few people and the story of how you acquired it is really interesting too. What a cool find! I don't have too much to say about The Ghostbreaker and Lost in Space. I enjoy them both and have the CD/ sets. I like The Ghostbreaker, it's a fun score. I prefer the Season 3 theme over Season 1 for Lost in Space, and my favorite episode score is the same as yours, The Hungry Sea. Thanks again for sharing this great information and nice clips through this podcast!
  8. That's cool, there's a certain excitement I have associated with the opening crawl and the Main Title. I hope they'll have it re-recorded for each movie, rather than just select one from one of the films to stick in. Just because I like hearing the subtle differences on new recordings. Though, probably makes more logistical sense to just grab an existing recording.
  9. I can't wait for the follow up video on what Williams actually wrote for the suspended cymbal part. Truly a revelation!
  10. That's half-way me: I have watched all of the Clone Wars series, but only the first season of Rebels. I appreciate that fans love the animated shows but it's not my thing...I enjoyed some stuff in the Clone Wars series, but I didn't get into it like some of my buddies did. They would tell me things like "just wait until the later seasons, that is when it's extra super good", but it still didn't click with me on the level it does for others. And I do fondly remember those Timothy Zahn novels, yeah!! Since I didn't watch the rest of Rebel's I don't know what all involved Thrawn and how they handled him. I am excited to watch this show though.
  11. I'm intrigued by this movie. I like Daisy and I didn't not like Rey. I will be excited to see what else we learn about this movie.
  12. Yeah interesting fashion choice with the jeans, maybe I'll try that this weekend. I missed the clip of this show but it sounds super cool!
  13. John Williams' "list of people who are many thing but who you can't say no to" Daisy Ridley Anne-Sophie Steven JJ Baby Cookies
  14. I was hoping Mando would have caught up to him later and blow him out of the sky...oh well.
  15. I bet John Williams finds out about this in a letter from pen-pal Daisy. "Dear Johnny, I've just signed on to be Rey again and well... it just won't be the same without your score supporting me this time" "Tell Kathleen...I'm coming back."
  16. Great idea for a thread, fun to read through these hypothetical releases. Here's one for The Secret Ways (will this ever happen I wonder?). This is just based on me watching the movie, taking notes from a BD rip I made. The timings could be wrong, for example if some cues are dialed out early (can't remember right now if any sounded like they were), and the source music is surely longer than the bits that appear in the film....plus no idea if there's unused music/ alternates. Anyway....track titles are made up by me. The Secret Ways (1961) 01 Universal International Logo 0:18 02 Main Title 4:02 03 Vienna / Restaurant 4:37 04 Watching from the Window 0:45 05 Running from the Car 1:22 06 Julia’s Place 1:31 07 Where is it? 0:37 08 A Change of Mind 3:43 09 Tell Me How to Find Your Father 1:34 10 Train to the Hungarian Border 2:35 11 Mrs. Heinrich Translates 5:08 12 A Late Stayer 0:46 13 Through the Theater 0:59 14 Through the Theater (Part II) 0:16 15 Michael is Taken 1:15 16 Through the Tunnels 0:49 17 Return to the Hotel 0:52 18 Acting Drunk and the Kiss 0:41 19 Sakanov’s Late Visit 4:46 20 Escaping the Hotel 2:24 21 Running and Hiding 1:30 22 Escape 0:41 23 Drugged Coffee 0:52 24 Imprisoned 1:42 25 Taking the Commandant 1:33 26 Rescue and Running from the Guards 4:48 27 Flight to Vienna and End Title 1:02 Total Score: 51:20 Source Music 28 Movie Source 1 0:13 29 Movie Source 2 0:14 30 Toccata and Fugue in D Minor - Excerpt (JS Bach) 0:36 Total Source: 1:04 P.S. I don't know if the 'movie source' is Williams or someone else.
  17. Fun trailer! I wonder if the flashback scenes will be integrated through the movie or if we'll get it in mostly one chunk somewhere....or maybe at the beginning a la Last Crusade.
  18. So...I am wayyyyyy late to the party here. I just started watching the show, and wow the music is awesome. Going to order the LLL sets and then the 3rd vol on Quobuz, though I guess i'll wait for that new master (just read the latest posts above). I'm so glad Seth has an appreciation for good film music!
  19. Great work @ragoz350, loved watching and listening to that opening. Great mockups, research and editing! It's a shame that 1M3B wasn't recorded, I really like that cue a lot. I know some chunks end up in 1M3BR, but I love the extended military opening of 1M3B which only exists in that cue. Thanks @BrotherSound for your hypothetical track listing, so cool to read through it and imagine possibilities. Same for @Jay and your idea of how to present this score, great ideas!
  20. From this day forth, I will refer to Cantina Band as Monkey Band!
  21. ok, got it. that makes sense! Thanks for answering my extra questions! On a side-note, I'm surprised that these older TV series haven't been worked on to restore and release, because as your commentary points out, there are some cool appearances by certain actors and actresses that I would think should be preserved and appreciated, such as Fred Astaire in Alcoa Premiere. I sure hope these series can be watched and appreciated again in the future, and not having to be hunted down in poor quality sources. wow! I need to catch up! You're on a roll.
  22. Finally posting my thoughts on Part III before I listen to Part IV! Thanks again @Thor, wonderful to hear all of this broken down so clearly. Ben Casey....I really like the sorrowful writing in the clips, I feel like this could be a fun gem if ever it were unearthed and released. Interesting scenario with Wild Country where his theme was used by another composer due to the pilot of the show being taken from an Alcoa Premiere episode Williams scored. And then a similar situation where music from Wagon Train was reused for The Virginian. I never knew about these things, very interesting to learn. I bought that cool TV Omnibus set from FSM when it came out, firstly just to have The Eleventh Hour, but then I realized I loved all of that fun TV music. I do really like the noir-like theme in The Bronze Locust. In fact, I sometimes just start humming it, it's a memorable theme (to me at least). That stuff around the Kraft shows is complicated...it was fun hearing you explain it all, but I had to listen to that section twice to see if I fully understood. Not any fault of yours, you explain it really well...it's just confusing! To make sure I got it right: Kraft Mystery Theatre (1961-1963) -Williams writes Season 3 theme, and 3 episode scores. -Also, there are 3 episodes from Alcoa Premiere being reused in this series, which have Williams music. Kraft Suspense Theatre (1963-1964) -Williams writes Main Theme, 17 episode scores for Season 1, and 2 episode scores for Season 2. Did I get that right? If not, then I will go drink more espresso and give it another listen! The main theme for Kraft Suspense Theatre isn't one of my favorites, I can't put my finger on why I like it less than some of the other main titles he did for TV. It sounds kind of like the brass part is emulating a car horn honking or something. It's dramatic though, I'll give it that. Ah, so now I finally understand that Sergeant Ryker was created from the first two episodes of Kraft Suspense Theatre. Interesting. Did Williams score the movie version separately, or does the Sergeant Ryker film just contain the same music and recording as the first two Kraft Suspense episodes? Some things I really enjoyed: I really like the opening music in Sergeant Ryker. S01E04 A Hero For Our Times - I really like the sweet string writing and then the saxophone that comes in, romantic in style and the major chord that this clip ends on made me smile. Great clip! S01E05 Are There Any More Out There Like You? - Yeah, those brassy bits do sound like Daddy-O. I like it! S01E06 One Step Down - I really like the tenseness of the music in these clips, reminds me of Bernard Herrmann in that 3rd clip. S01E09 The Hunt - I really like the dissonant muted brass in the atonal section. Cool! S01E10 The Name of the Game - I really dig the piano improv going on here! Super fun. S01E27 The Robrioz Ring - I really enjoyed the nice string writing. Lastly, it's really interesting how the Ryker theme is a thread throughout this series, showing up in different episodes. I wonder why and how that came about, or what Williams was thinking about when reusing the theme in different episodes. Really great stuff! I will listen to Part IV soon...I'm excited because I grew up as a kid watching Gilligan's Island compilations on VHS tapes. I think after Star Wars, Gilligan's Island was the next thing I ever heard from John Williams.
  23. The pitch meeting is pretty great for it as well!
  24. Well, knowing the content will be the same as the digital release, the only thing I can think of to make the demo cues happen would be some kind of bonus Star Wars disc in 2033 when the 9 scores are expanded, like a disc that has Galaxy's Edge (plus the bits of William Ross stuff for the attractions), Solo + demos, Obi-Wan plus demos (and maybe any more William Ross music?).
  25. I thought they weren't used in the film because they were just intended as demos for Powell hear examples of utilizing the theme itself, and then Powell could incorporate into his own writing as he saw fit. Maybe I have that wrong.
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