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Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Village is 16:41 and Water!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End Credits is 19:01. Yeah, there pretty big. I love it

Ah, I see. I thought maybe I had made a chronological mistake or something. The reason I like long tracks is because I make a complete chrono album in my playlist, and then that is the playlist I listen to when I want to listen to a score all the way through (most of the time). If I ever want to hear just one cue separated, I have the original album to go to. That is my thought process. It is pretty cool, though, that we can all make edits exactly how we want them.

Meaning?

What Jason says makes sense, except why would they put unreleased music on there in the first place? It seems to me that 99.9% of gamers out there won't care at all about the music, just give 'em a main theme here and there, and some underscore to keep the noise going, and they are happy. So why go any farther than what is already on the released album? I don't know.

Just changed my ToD edit slightly. Not sure why I hadn't noticed that "Anything Goes" and "Shanghai 1935" should be combined. Anyways, here it is: 1. Anything Goes/Shanghai 1935 2. Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Village 3. Indy and the Villagers/Shankara/Fortune And Glory/Departing The Village 4. The Scroll/To Pankot Palace 5. The Maharajah 6. The Feast 7. Nocturnal Activities/The Secret Passage/The Death Trap 8. First Ceremony ('Sanskrit Ceremony' Film Edit 1) 9. Approaching The Stones 10. Children in Chains/A True Believer/The Black Sleep Of Kali/The Second Ceremony ("Sanskrit Ceremony" Film Edit 2) 11. Short Round Escapes 12. Indy Wakes Up/Saving Willie/Freeing The Slaves/Short Round Helps 13. The Mine Car Chase 14. Water!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End Credits

I guess I will give up on my striving for fan status, then.

No, but I desperately want to.

I don't like this thread...

I vote for the first option. Alternates listed where they would have gone in the score. And thanks for all the work, Jason!

Whose? Anyway, here is how my ToD edit is shaping up: 1. Anything Goes 2. Shanghai 1935 3. Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Village 4. Indy and the Villagers/Shankara/Fortune And Glory/Departing The Village 5. The Scroll/To Pankot Palace 6. The Maharajah 7. The Feast 8. Nocturnal Activities/The Secret Passage/The Death Trap 9. First Ceremony ('Sanskrit Ceremony' Film Edit 1) 10. Approaching The Stones 11. Children in Chains/A True Believer/The Black Sleep Of Kali/The Second Ceremony ("Sanskrit Ceremony" Film Edit 2) 12. Short Round Escapes 13. Indy Wakes Up/Saving Willie/Freeing The Slaves/Short Round Helps 14. The Mine Car Chase 15. Water!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End Credits Let me know if you have any suggestions. As you can see, I like my tracks long.

The board doesn't even recognize sarcasm. I can see the tags right there!

I did.

Hmm..... Good question, that.

Yep, what he said. Mostly, lower and sometimes darker sounding. Rich in the lower register, but loses that and sounds thin higher, and so those notes are often left to the violin. Often doesn't sound quite as 'smooth' as a violin, at least in the lower pitches.

'Proven' seems a bit much, don't you think? I don't remember any 'proof' by the end of that old argument (which I am most certainly not willing to take up again). Anyways, too bad you don't like the movie.

This is a John Williams message board, not Hans Zimmer. We don't have multiple threads for other composers and we sure as hell don't need them for Zimmer. There you go, ruining all the little Zimmerites Christmas. You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.

Yes, I liked how in ToD they were like falling and then they like hit the ground. In KotCS it would be something silly like they would be like falling and like, then they would hit the ground, and I would be like "What?!?!"

Yes, wecome to the forum, and no, there is no reason to lock this thread. How many Indy4 threads did we have going? This is good because it is a specific place to talk about the 2CD release.

If he'd fallen out of an airplane in an inflatable raft in KotCS people would have hated it. Just not believable.

I use Logic Pro 7.2.3.

Um...what everyone else said. Looking forward to the answers!

I can write mindless notes all over a paper, and it will not be complex. It takes more than just a bunch of notes everywhere to make it complex. What is more important is how the notes interact with each other, and in that I really do not think Williams has gotten more complex. He has just changed. Back in the age of, say, the old Indy movies, his notes were supporting longer melodies, usually, and lots of folks seem to like that more. Fine. Nowadays, he uses short motifs more than he used to, and his notes are supporting those. We may have more woodwind flares than we used to. Does that make it more complex? No, those aren't especially complex, there is just a bunch of them. Now I think it might be true that back in the day Williams sometimes used the orchestra like a smaller ensemble more than he now does. For instance, he might only have 4 parts going at a certain point, whereas that rarely happens now. But he was also writing plenty of things back then that would have tons and tons of parts going ("Battle of Hoth" is just one example EDIT: Ha, I wrote that before I saw Alan's post). So he was capable of writing just as 'complex', if you will, stuff back then. He chose to spend more time on melodies. Now he chooses to spend more time on motifs. But I think that is just a style change. The back and forth between dense and sparse does not make the complete score any simpler. And remember, there can be sparse orchestrations which are very complex harmonically, and vice versa.

I am no musician, but strictly speaking I'd argue that his music IS a lot more advanced than anything he did back in the 70's and 80's. I am referring to his work as music, not as film scores. There is a multi-layered simplicity to his best work. Nowadays I just hear brilliantly complex orchestration, but with a sad lack of heart. Lots of notes does not a complex score make.

No, but, oddly enough, most around here seem to think that. I don't.