Limbonaut
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I may be wrong but I think this may be the first theme JW wrote for a female character that wasn't also a love theme. A lot of the themes for female characters are kind of delicate and sweet even when the characters themselves really weren't. Princess Leia and Marion are tougher than their respective themes would indicate! Irina's Theme is feminine and seductive when played a certain way but can be strong and forceful if played another. Willie Scott's theme fit her perfectly, glamourous and comically over the top lush and romantic.
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I was surprised by how much the "father-son"(Henry Srs) theme from TLC was used in the movie. It was sad hearing it when Indy looks at his picture and talks about his father being gone.
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I didn't expect to hear the theme for Indy's Dad from TLC that often in the new movie. It's on the soundtrack. Pretty sad to hear it when Indy looks at a picture of him and talks about him dying. Then you hear it again at the end when Indy says "Somewhere your grampa's laughing." which is kind of bittersweet.
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I wish the 'B section' of the Indy theme was on the track. It was great hearing it again during the scene.
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On my first listen, this track sounded realy boring to me with little sense of direction. Now I like it quite a lot and there actually IS a sense of direction. It makes me think of The Basket Chase, though isn't quite that good.
I feel the same way. It's one of those tracks that musically it doesn't affect me but then I see the movie and I like it now because it's one of my favorite scenes. Because I really I really like the scene a lot I now love the music that was part of it!
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When I first heard the midi sample on this site a few weeks ago I thought it was okay. When I heard the sample on Amazon later I liked it more. Then when I heard the sample from CeDE that had the full cellos playing it became my favorite track!
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Any woman who'll return your Yoda impression is one to keep!
I wish they had put these deleted scenes in especially the first. Meredith is a bad$$!
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A lot of the action music is strangely cheerful, almost silly, without having much melody. The most notable example is "The Snake Pit", but it also applies to "A Whirl Through Academe" and parts of "Jungle Chase".
Maybe because some of the action in those is silly? "Why is the music while this character dies of cancer so sad?"
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Lalo Schifrin's immortal Mission:Impossible theme.
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Anyway, I gave the Raiders OST a listen the other day and absolutely loved the bits from Desert Chase which utilized the B section in such an action packed setting. I'd somehow managed to forget all about those moments. Sadly, I don't think it was used in that fashion in Temple of Doom or The Last Crusade. I can only hope it will happen again for Kingdom of the Crystal Skull... though I know it won't.
I'm with you guys, the bridge part played at the end of the truck chase was great and never really used that way in the sequels. The main part of the "Raiders March" symbolizes the adventurE aspect of the Indy character. Him going off into the unknown and it gets your blood going. The B part(bridge) represents the determination aspect of Indiana Jones. His toughness and resiliency. The part that won't give up, no matter how many and how big the obstacles and enemies are in his way! The A section is "Indiana" and the bridge is "JONES"!
I hope the B section gets highlighted in the new movie the way it was on the "Desert Chase" in Raiders. -
I like the tie-in to the Raiders March here. Not a deliberate progression like in "Anakin's Theme" from TPM which slowly segued into the "Imperial March" at the end, just some quotes in this theme from the "Raiders March".
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It's weird but I can recall "Irina's theme" instantly but this one keeps coming in and out, especially at night. I always wake up in the middle of the night and fall asleep an hour later. After I heard this melody I woke up around 3 in the morning and remembered it and the melody plays in my head for a while, then I fall asleep and forget it! Then the same happened the next night with me suddenly remembering "Call oft he Crystal" melody again and forgetting it later on!
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John Williams talks about what inspired "Mutt's theme" here.
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Dang, I was going to interview!
I'm glad there's an explanation to why Mutt's theme is more swashbuckling because when you look at Shia's character you think "West Side Story"!
A lot of people expected hummable tunes and a lot of people are deaf idiots!I can't get "Irina's Theme" out of my head!
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The "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra" is one of my favorite Indy tracks and scenes.
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Great understated piano music in that movie.
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He's a reknowned, jazz composer, produced Michael Jackson's Thriller album, "We Are the World" and Rashida Jones. He's also composed music for a lot of films. My favorite from "Q" is the original Italian Job from 1969. Even though it wasn't written for it, I love "Soul Bossanova" as the Austin Powers Theme.
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Here's a performance of the
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I love the theme to DALLAS. It just fit the show perfectly.
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I like Holly. I hope she comes back next season.
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"Waaaah waaah! The movie didn't make me feel like a kid again! My childhood's ruined now! WAAAAAAAAAAAH! "
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Two weeks ago, Family Guy used Korngold's score from the The Sea Hawk for this sequence where Peter Griffen becomes a modern day pirate:
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I don't know what you people are talking about. I thought his score for Revenge of the Sith was great. Just because you didn't like the movie doesn't mean the score wasn't exceptional. "Anakin's Betrayal", "Battle of the Heroes", "Immolation Scene" were some of the best, most moving Star Wars music I've ever heard. And all this complaing about it not sounding like the movies in the 70s and 80s is just asinine. The prequels were different so that's why the score was different. The music for the original was an operetta which suited them, while the new score was operatic. Whatever happened to an artist moving forward? That's why John Barry decided not to score any more Bond movies. Because he didn't want to look back.
I'm glad to see some of the old cues from the previous Indy movies but I want to hear something new and different too.
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Unfortunately, I'm not hearing the 70s or 80s.
Let's face it, Williams has forgotten how to write without the 120 piece orchestra playing at the same time.....
STOP MAKING YOUR BLOODY ACTION MUSIC SO DENSE!
What happened to the brass and timpani of Desert Chase?
I agree with you to a point, but some of the writing in the samples of "The Adventures of Mutt," "Jungle Chase" and "Finale" sounds very retro.
Dudes I've seen the TV spots that highlight the "Jungle Chase" and there was all kinds of stuff going on, Mutt swordfighting with Spalko on top of moving amphibious jeeps, Indy, Mutt, Marion in one going over a waterfall, Indy driving one and sideswiping another one, etc. The music's all over the place because it seems the sequence all over the place! John William's music ALWAYS fits the action. The truck chase in Raiders had a singular, driving sound because that's what the sequence was. It's like complaining that the Tank Chase music from "Last Crusade" sounds slow compared to the truck chase music. That's because the tank is moving slower! "The Jungle Chase" doesn't sound as dense as "Battle in the Snow" from TESB. That track must have used every instrument in the LSO!
One of Indy's last lines in KOTCS
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The line about Henry Sr. was a little corny but it could have been worse. Indy could have said "Somewhere your grampa is smiling!" That would have been really sappy! At least "laughing" acknowledges the contentious relationship Indy had with his dad.