spielboy
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anyone contacted RAH for the possible refund?
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anyone remembers the fist appearance of the love theme in the movie?
I just remember the part in SPACEPORT track, when Han leaves, but I am asking if it appears earlier (when they're together in the car or ...)
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32 minutes ago, crocodile said:
I think the only track that slightly tests my endurance is Into the Maw. Think it is a bit..too...much.
Karol
same with the movie, putting that action escape scene with the falcon RIGHT AFTER another action escape scene with the falcon
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well, in CD Powell's arrangements are more noticeable than in the film mix. His beloved ostinati percusion in so many tracks... along with the bombastic approach... not always worked for me. And I hate the choral parts. All this make the score sound like "cheap" in many moments. Add to that the Williams CLASSY and CLASSIC theme and the comparision is, well. obviously not fair (now I understand why they didnt finish the movie with Williams' concert arrangement)
and his love theme sounds like a Lloyd-Webber tune or something, is quite cheesy and do not refflects the real relationship between Qui-Ra and Han
anyway, album has it's fun moments, with original material and with Williams old and new material... but you must tolerate and like Powell's style cause it's definitely there
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i'd love to see it too! I do believe in fairies!!!
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If film score fans would produce soundtrack albums, there would be hardly any musical consideration - just 'chronological', even if it would mean to repeat a similar piece twice in a row.
They almost repetead a cue in the LP, just in different sides. Must the end of side A make that sense of a closure?
I would have used that extra-space for the climatic (and unreleased til 25 years later) "Bringing Them Back".
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no one got it yet???...
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considering some spoilers in the track listing, how about using the numbers instead?
I'm halfway into the CD. It sounds to me like far and away+the river through the Williams STAR WARS prequels' sound.
I really love the brief moments where the stunning trailer theme appears (not in full... yet).
BTW, people say the film (140 min long) is overscored, so be prepared for an amount of unreleased music!!
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I think this is just for Williams completists, really -- As we are! It's not like the +60 min of unreleased HOOK music or ST-V.
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The vocals are by Amy Irving. Spielberg then-wife dubbing his future wife!
Er... Where did you hear that? (Also, Spielberg and Irving weren't married until 1985.)
no, it's Kate Kapshaw singing in kantonese
Amy Irving dubbed Kathleen Turner singing in ROGER RABBIT
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You're nitpicking things that most of the people who see this release in stores and buy it aren't to notice or care about.
and they probably wouldnt notice if an incidental cue is from one sequel or another...
we have to rise the bar, here. This is a "JW Fan" site, after all.
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you should compare KotCS with the OSTs, not with Concord second (third for RAIDERS) release.
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I hope all those great custom expanded versions some of you are doing combining OST, Concord set, LEGO cues, leaked alternates and DVDrips will be available "somewhere" for all the fans like me that, having the offical sets and some mp3, dont have time nor patience to do that incredible work... I hope!
You know all that takes about 5 minutes in itunes .I still don't think rear channel DVD rips should be used ,except maybe a few if you don't mind change in sound quality
but I only have OST and (soon) the Concorde set... I dont own that lego and dvdrip cues.
plus I dont have iTunes!
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I hope all those great custom expanded versions some of you are doing combining OST, Concord set, LEGO cues, leaked alternates and DVDrips will be available "somewhere" for all the fans like me that, having the offical sets and some mp3, dont have time nor patience to do that incredible work... I hope!
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why ToD wonderful finale has 20 unreleased seconds, the exact shorty/indy interpolation part? with a bonus disc of only 52 min ?!?! I dont get it...
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saw the movie (Spielberg's worst, IMHO) and I think Williams reused a few bits from previous films -not on album-
1. when we frist see indy's face with his just recovered hat, I think Williams uses the same music of the LAST CRUSADE scene where he goes (throu a dramatic elipsi) from the faculty to Donovan's house (were he turns to camera again)
2. when indy starts the action in the warehouse there's the escape music in RAIDERS prologue, just when he takes off with the plane
what do you think?
BTW, the unreleased "Sirius Escape" was just a variation on the buckbeack theme, right? nothing essential...
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This is definately one of those scores that it's dangerous to listen to before seeing the film. People are forming all sorts of opinions, especially about the style of the action cues. It's in a case like this where you really need to wait and see how they work in the film,
come one, we do this with any score, but INDY must be different. Why?? Style of action cues is there, no matter how well it fits in the movie.
my overall opinion is that this is a try to return to RAIDERS (so all the reprising material), cause DOOM had a frenzier music much more fan to listen to (that was Williams at his adventurous peak) and CRUSADE more balletic moments and little themes to play with (Coronorado, Tank theme, Nazi theme...).
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yeah, I heard that complete score with bits from the VG and DVDrip and, as I said, I didnt find the missing material that important (sometimes they were just a few bars)
Yeah,but it's going to take a few listensthe skull theme is almost in all those mysterious pieces, and Irina's theme is quoted (in different arrangements) in the action cues. Mostly in second half of the album, cause Mutt dominates the first. Any other?
more listens, more listens....
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the last part of the album has very good mysterious music... but not sure if it sounds like an INDY score. I would say Williams is more interested in that part that in the action cues and repised themes.
agreed about early opinions. I wrote mine cause kindof "needed it"
but this album really deserves a few more listens and specially watching the movie. To be fair,there are some pretty amazing moments,such as the end of The Departure .I get the same vibe as the RotS OST like were missing part of the picture ,especially music at the end of the film,or travelling cues..More of Mutt's theme in the film?more of Marion?s theme?More of Irena's Theme?
+70 min and you are worried for the supposedly missing bits?
BTW, RotS missing cues didnt "hugely improve" that score, IMO. What cues? the reprised old themes for the funeral? the action bits in the prologue battle? more variations on the BotH theme? nothing too special and significative. Not in the same league as the missing music from INDY2 and 3, for sure.
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I am on the side of the disapointed people.
This is good Williams but by no means GREAT or specially INSPIRED not to mention even 80's-sounding (come on, we have heard all this action music in the last years. There's no "balletic" cues, no constant rythms or patterns, it's all changing every X bars, going nowhere), beyond a few moments and a couple of nice themes. But HARRY POTTER films also had very good themes and some nice moments. I even think HP3 had better themes and incidental music.
About variations, I dont hear that Johnny put too much thinking for variations on the reprised themes. A few quotes here and there, but ... in TEMPLE there were all over the score and very fan to listen to. Even in CRUSADE (maybe the most varied score in leitmotives of the 4)
Finally, we always cry for expanded releases, and more specially for INDY score. But, maybe this one would benefit from a reduction. Action is too generic and light in the first part and I hear the same arrangement of the skull theme over and over again.
Best Williams score of the century? No way. I prefer CATCH ME, TERMINAL, HP3 and, of course, his last truely masterpiece A.I.
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