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Anyone else having a hard time editing the newly discovered segment of "Warehouse Escape" into the Pre-Viz version? It's fairly easy to edit it in where it goes, but to then edit the end from the Pre-Viz afterward is sort of hard to do without it, well, sounding like an edit, lol. I think because it is still missing a second or two, or a couple notes or something, that would lead into the continuing bit. So we may have to get those couple of notes from a DVD rip? Otherwise it just sounds weird editing it in the way it is. Unless you guys have had more success than me.

I'm gay, what did I miss?

Does anyone else think there is a unreleased opening to the track he recorded (like just a couple seconds) or is it just me? Probably is, but had to ask. Thanks for getting this!

It is lame they gave away the ending of the movie. But, really: would you want it to end any other way?

Hehe, I hope you enjoy the movie just as much, if not more, than the score. But to warn you: it has a lot of gross-out moments, especially for a PG-13 movie (the limit really gets pushed), but more surprisingly, it is a very funny movie. I thought the trailers advertising the movie were a bit misleading, but in my opinion, for the better. Most people went in perhaps thinking it would be a typical "evil spirit" movie, but instead got a fun and scary little rollercoaster ride that makes you laugh and then scares the crap out of you! Raimi is very much playing the "Evil Dead" game here, but in some ways it is better because the movie is more slick and looks more realistic, with characters you *shock* actually like, care about, or find just plain fun. I can't help but praise this movie often for it didn't fair too well at the box office when it really, really should have. A shame since a movie like the new Transformers got more attention when it really is the inferior film of the summer.

Besides the film being in black and white, is there ANYTHING about the film's story that would justify it being remade? Ugh. I'd rather have him do a 5th Indy film than this...

Ah, sorry didn't see your other posts, but didn't see any actual thread dedicated to this score, which was what I thought it deserved, too. Yeah, it is annoying the CD got pushed back twice. I was waiting for it in July, and was ready to buy (came out just around my pay day) and was angry that it got pushed back about another month. I couldn't wait to hear it when I realized they put up the MP3s, though. It seems like some tracks might be alternates, but they really did edit all over the place different areas where cues go. I'm not certain, but the track "Auto-Da-Fee" seems like an edit of (and spoilers follow if you don't want to know) the scene in the graveyard where Christine is trying to shove the envelope in her mouth, the part where Christine is being dragged to hell at the train station, the part way back in the film when the Lamia is throwing her around her room (I could be wrong about this instance, but there is definitely something else that plays here), and then it plays the brief part where she is walking around the train station before she gets dragged. All in that order, in that one cue. There are other cues like that, which I cannot place where they go, except the second track "Mexican Devil Disaster", which is the memorable opening of the movie, but then fades into a later part where Christine and her boyfriend are driving somewhere (I remember because of the prickly feeling the music gave when it shows these twisted vine-like plants above the car as they are driving). It all flows nicely, but this album is as much in chronological order as is... well... most John Williams albums. What's bad though is, also like some Williams albums, putting it in chronological order would sound end up just sounding like a fan-edit. It's just not worth it.

Ah, okay, I think you are right then, it isn't on the album. Btw, at first I thought they didn't have the music right when , but I think it was edited in sort of near the end of the 2nd to the last track. Am I right/wrong?

Really? I didn't think there was anything really missing of interest from what I recalled. Like I said above, some tracks were mixed with others from different points of the film, like how Williams does for his albums. But maybe I am forgetting some cues.

Wasn't it originally scored at one point? I heard that rumor a long time ago, wonder if it was really true, and also wonder if the recording for it is sitting in a vault somewhere.

A bit surprised no one has made any post about this score, for it is one of the best I have heard this year, in my opinion. I'm not one who knows much of Christopher Young's work (aside from a couple horror films and what he did for Spiderman 3), but this is a wonderful and memorable horror score. For those who like horror films and have yet to see the movie (which came out at the end of May) you should be ashamed since it is the scariest and most hilarious thing I have seen in a very, very long time. The basic plot is a young bank worker denies a loan extension to an old gypsy who then seeks revenge by putting a horrible curse on her. The curse makes her tormented by demons for 3 days before being literally dragged to hell. Once she discovers this, she tries to do everything she can to stop it from happening. The score's got a delightful string-induced theme, that gets two big performances on the album along with hints of it heard throughout the rest of the score. There are a few other motiffs throughout, one for the gypsy, one for the lamia (the main evil spirit after her), and even a sort of a light "love" theme of sorts between the bank worker and her boyfriend. There may be other little themes as well that I could be missing, which makes re-listening fun. Now I noticed the CD is ordered in the John Williams approach: not in film order, for the most part, and some tracks edited together from parts that happen later on in the film. But it all flows rather nicely on album and for a horror score it is, for the most part, a wonderful listen. Anyway, I just wanted people to be aware of this score since the movie was so underlooked. It works pretty well in the film, but almost better to me on album form. It really is the most pleasing score I have heard all year. For the moment, you can get the entire album now on Amazon.com in MP3: http://www.amazon.com/Drag-Me-To-Hell/dp/B002INO2LA/ref=dm_cd_album_lnk Or, if you'd rather wait for the CD, you can preorder it now on Amazon.com as well, to be released on Aug. 18: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00284EMKK/ref=dm_dp_cdp?ie=UTF8&s=music Anyone else heard it yet?

I can see getting this one for "nostalgic" purposes (like a good number of scores I have). Though I can't see it being better than the Goldsmith score for the first one in any way. But fun nonetheless! We'll listen to it on our next drive together, right Paleo?

Yeah I don't understand why all of these sites that quoted your article regarded it as a "rumor" until this new article came out, then they said it was "confirmed". Did everyone just want more than one source or something?

I can understand why some people like them, and they did feature some of the best of Hooper's music in OOTP. But what I hated about them was they featured some story points just written on the newspaper, which flys by pretty fast sometimes, and if you didn't catch it, you would miss out on some plot points. Some more important than others. Also, watching montage scenes always make me crave to see the scenes they show in full, and for the moving feeling as short as it was, these montages did not help.

I'm very glad there were NOT really any montage scenes like in Order of the Phoenix. They kept pulling me out of the film everytime they happened, and I always thought they were done in a cheesy way (ex: the newspaper). And for those wanting to see Snape teach DADA class, he only really teaches them one or two times in the book anyway, and basically just consisted of Snape being his usual, wonderful self. I was slightly dissapointed this wasn't in the film, since Snape has always been mentioned wanting to teach the class. And in the book it is a big deal to Harry and the others when he gets the post, especially for Harry since it really is his most talented subject. However, I forgive the filmmakers for not showing us this since the scenes never showed any step forward in plot nor really expanded any characterization except for mere satisfaction for Snape.

Lapti Nek is a MILLION times better than Jedi Rocks! Where I hear Lapti Nek, it is a stupid little song, but it does kind of go with the atmosphere of that part of the film. Strange, weird, and yet kind of fun in a crazy way. But this Jedi Rocks song... it annoys the f*ck out of me! Seriously, it drives me insane! That is one of the major reasons why I can't watch the special edition of Return of the Jedi! Paleo made some very good points on why the SEs are pointless and complete missed opportunities. I would have loved it if they just removed all of the matte lines and updated the dated explosions and such, but all of this "new" stuff in the background, and adding characters, and changing characters, and messing with Greedo... totally left field and not needed for... well... anyone but George Lucas, apparently! Best bit of the SEs: removing of the matte lines for the Rancor on the DVD. It looked much more realistic! Tied with the new added shots of the Wampa on Hoth... glad it actually wasn't CG, that they actually made a puppet! Worst bit of SEs: Jedi Rocks, tied with adding young, prequel Anakin at the end of ROTJ, along with the "galaxy-wide" celebration shots.

I liked the film quite a bit, and was a definite improvement over the first. Here is my little review of sorts, taken from my blog: Favorite Aspects: -The acting. This one really did showcase much more acting range than previous films from most involved. Some go over-the-top, but then again when they did the scenes usually called upon them to be this way. -The cinematography. I was concerned about this when I first saw the trailers, but am pleasantly surprised by it's bleak look. The whole film has this strange dark feeling to it not present in any of the other films. I'm not sure what kind of filter they used or whatever, but it I really like this bleak look of the film for some reason. However, it does not make the film look very magical, and that is perhaps why it is almost startling. Although I thought the last film lacked a magical look as well, when I said that I meant it lacked magical stuff going on in the background. This is very true for this film as well, but not only that, the lighting of everything and grain in the film makes the walls and their bleakness stand out and almost creep you out by their presence. It's hard to describe accurately. While I miss the look of Prisoner of Azkaban quite a bit, I can't help but admit this look fits the story of darkness taking over. -The direction. Very surprised by liking this aspect, since I was not a fan at all of it in the last film. I'm sure the change in cinematography helped out in liking the direction more, but it isn't the sole reason. David Yates seems to have learned from the last film that making a movie that is mostly just a series of montages is not very engaging or respectful to the novel source. While there are of course a time or two when a montage moment happens, it isn't nearly on the same level was it was before. He fleshes out moments this time and lets them linger long enough to finally savor them. The way he films the more intense moments are also much more engaging and have more impact. While I am still worried as to how he will tackle action scenes in the final installment, I will say I was not nearly as dissapointed in this film as I was with scenes like the fight at the ministry in the last film. He has improved quite a bit, and that gives me hope. He gets the most out of the actors and handles the pivotal scenes better than I thought he would (though still different than I imagined sometimes, for better or for worse). -The special effects. This sort of goes without saying, as they have always been good ever since Chamber of Secrets. Quidditch looks better than ever before , and the entire cave segment was wonderful. A major special effects highlight, and very creepy and even scary. I am amazed that this film has a PG rating for that scene alone (but also for various moments involving violence and blood, which there are more than one). The effects in the very beginning of the film for the are also quite impressive, and heard that it is this segment that gets 3D treatment on IMAX. Can't wait to see it in that form! -Dumbledore. Though Michael Gambon's take on the character hasn't always been what I thought it should be (see Goblet of Fire), he really gives his best performance of the series in this film. Gone is the angry announcer Dumbledore and instead is the weakened and frantic Dumbledore who now depends on Harry more than before (and expects more out of him). In a recent interview Gambon said he has never, and never plans to, read the Potter books. While I think this may have helped him deliver a better and more consistent character with the last few films, here he did fine without the added knowledge. Great performance. -Professor Slughorn. Played brilliantly by Jim Broadbent, the new Potions teacher is one of the more fun and interesting aspects of this new film. He is delightfully high on himself and high on "collecting" people based on their importance. Imagined exactly as I did when I read the book. -The comedy and the drama. This film has quantities of both a bit greater than in any of the other films, and will probably be remembered as such. It really is a 50/50 film, continuously switching back and forth between the two. Although I wish they had more focus on the drama, I admit actually loving the comic moments for the most part. However, you really have to like the characters to appreciate these moments. If you are just a casual fan of the series, you may be a bit put off at how silly it can get. But in my opinion, I never thought they went too far and it all suited their characters well. And after the last film being particularly unfun, this was a great change of pace. But when the drama fully takes over the last act of the film, it is the most dramatic in the entire series. I applaud them for not toning anything down. -The added scenes. Though not needed for the story at all, I thought they were executed rather well. But it at least added some excitement to an otherwise actionless film. Least Favorite Aspects: -Things left out. Though not nearly as many scenes are left out in this film as there were in the last, there are a few very important ones that really should have stayed. The scenes I am talking about are of course the other memories involving Voldemort's past. We get 2.5 of them in the film version, and although they are the most vital ones, they really should have gone all the way. But besides that, there are lots of things left out that make way for many plot holes for the uninformed. but one of the more obvious omissions is seen at the beginning of the film: no Durselys, again. This was dissapointing for me, since this is the 2nd time they have done this now. Luckily, although not yet confirmed, I am sure they will be in the first part of the next film. They kind of have to be, I think, judging by the novel. So at least we will see them one last time. -The pacing. This is a slower, more talky film than most of the other Potter films. I am not very surprised by this, since the novel was the same way, but it does hurt the film a bit. Especially because it is rather long. It probably didn't help it for a midnight screening (I heard complaints about it being boring by some people when leaving), but I never got really bored by it. It is good that they added a couple of more exciting scenes, but in that case, Would have made all of the talky scenes more forgotten if this had been put in the film. Definitely one of the less exciting films in overall pace, though never nearly as careless and boring as Order of the Phoenix. -The music. I heard it in album form before I saw the movie, and it is definitely the worst stand-alone Potter music of the series. It actually made me angry that it was so forgettable, unoriginal, and mindless. There is no promise here of Hooper expanding his talent at all if he does score the final film. Luckily, the music works a little better in the film, most notably , but overall the film actually lacked music. They may actually have the entire score on the CD, for there were extended periods of time in the film where there was a complete absence of music. This did not help the film's pacing issue at all, for I am sure if there was at least some interesting music playing, even if it was just underscore, the film would have a much better flow. In the end... Although I think this film doesn't deserve the mostly overwhelming positive criticism, it is a much better adaptation of the novel than the last film was. It isn't among my new favorite films of the Potter series, but it was much more enjoyable than I thought it was going to be. David Yates has climbed up a few steps to prove he is talented enough to perhaps give audiences a gripping adaptation of the final novel. However, Nicholas Hooper has proved that he should step aside and let someone else, hopefully John Williams, take over as music composer. While the film lacks magic, it has plenty of character and shows that the world is being taken over by darkness. It's winning. And I love that aspect of this film. It's almost like nothing wants to be magical anymore because it is too beaten down by Voldemort's takeover. Although if this is the angle they are really taking, I want to see some more dark magic now. This film is a good build-up for the grand finale. Let's all hope they make it a good one.

I don't understand why there was this confusion if Williams would do one part or both parts to begin with. When Heyman mentioned that scheduling could conflict for Part 2, I think that really just meant that while he could fit Part 1 in his schedule, Part 2 would be the difficult one to make a schedule for, for whatever reasons.

As much as I love LSO, there are other orchestras that play just as good in my ears. For example, I had no idea Temple of Doom and Last Crusade were NOT LSO scores until years after I heard them. I always just assumed they were because they sounded great.

I guess I can see why he wants to record in LA, since isn't that where he now resides? And perhaps since it is two films basically back-to-back, perhaps he wouldn't want to make a London trip for that long. But if this really is the case, why would it be a problem for the producers to grant this request? In a way wouldn't it also cost them less for him to do it in Los Angeles? Or am I forgetting something...

Or it could mean that Part 1 is cleared, but that Part 2 may conflict with Williams' other projects (Tintin, presumably). That's what I am thinking. If so, perhaps Williams could just compose the 2nd half and have someone, like William Ross again, adapt/conduct it? I don't like that Heyman said it was a "big if", but the fact that he hasn't written it off for everyone yet really gives me hope. What makes me really happy is that he didn't say something like "well, Yates is the director so if he wants Hooper back, then so be it." I really hope that won't happen. Anything but that.

Take a look: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/t/2009/7...y-hallows-films

Good questions, paleo! I would like to ask how he is going to tackle "Deathly Hallows", if he is indeed going to score it, for the story is full of action, and if the score is not as well, it simply will NOT work. Thanks.

I completely agree with Paleo's take on the score. It's hollow, it is not memorable at all, and it is not dramatic to me in the slightest. It is boring, useless, filler music that may barely even serve the scenes they are meant to accompany. Listening to it all the way through made me feel quite angry afterwards, actually. Like others have said, they had so much time to fix this score if they wanted to, but didn't. I am very, very scared of the fate of The Deathly Hallows. I am already not a big fan of David Yates's take on the films. I certainly don't think he has the talent to pull off any thrilling action, if the last film was any evidence, and from what I heard from this new one of him skimping out on the action in the finale. For anyone who has read the final book the last two films will be based on, there is one major setpiece of action to the next. It should feel thrilling and exciting, and I am worried it won't at all. Which is a huge, huge shame. Though I am already worried about Yates, I am more worried now about Hooper. His style of music, which has now shown to be quite worse than I originally thought, will NOT work with the final story. It truly won't, if they really are doing it like the book and filling it with as many scenes as they can. I hope Warner Brothers will realize this and choose someone- anyone- to replace him and go for someone more action-oriented or even just capable of dramatic music. I think now is an appropriate time for me to pull out this petition I did for John Williams to do Deathly Hallows a long time before all of this. It was posted in JWFAN news sometime before the Indy box set came out, and got about 500 sigs. Well let's add more... and maybe we can at least show Warner Brothers we are NOT happy. All of this has actually made me quite angry as to how it could all turn out. I'm fearing the worst. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/William...lows/index.html

You seem to make a lot of good decisions in acquiring scores and getting good deals on amazon. And clearly, you make some very good decisions right here on this board as well.