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The part with Water/Slalom/And Unreleased Water (???) does indeed have the unreleased part! Too bad it has the water SFX loud and clear! UGH!

I'm still debating on getting this. I'm going to watch the movie again right now to decide. Haven't seen it in a while. But yes, Gremlins next from Goldsmith, please! The footwarmer could use a delicious upgrade.

Well isn't Intrada in California? It may help for me, since I too live in California. And I paid with paypal right away the night it was released. Sorry! lol. I will say this release is pretty darn perfect. Sound quality is about as superb as it could be (though the linear notes, which are also great and detailed, say they are from various sources for quality (and mentioned the tapes with the music were actually deteriorating quite a bit even though it's been less than 30 years), including Silvestri himself). The sound quality on CD 2 is a little bit lower, probably because there weren't as many sources for it (just one I guess). Anyway, it really is all the music from the film, and it's wonderful. CD 2 was interesting (though the best moments are actually found on the clips on Intrada), however it is a good thing the score was changed or I don't think it would have been nearly as memorable. Still, it is an incredible thing to hear and spot the differences between the two, but it won't be spinning in my player nearly as often as CD 1 will. Finally! The boots can go in the trash! The only gripe I really have is that the 2 source cues on CD 1 should have been put at the end. I know they put them within the score to retain continuity, but in my opinion it does stop the flow. I know people have various opinions on this, but that is mine. But with that being the only complaint I have, I am happy it is quite trivial. I also was able to get "In Search Of Peace" though I still haven't listened to it yet. I bought it on a whim because I thought all the sound clips were spectacular. Never seen the film it accompanies. My wallet hurts so bad! LOL. That is why I am still debating if I will get Innerspace...

I GOT IT! I GOT THE GOLDEN TICKET!!! Actually, even better, my Back to the Future arrived!!! I'll let you know all about it if you wish. Gonna listen to it now!

Hmm... I'm kind of dissapointed with these 3, to be honest. I guess I was really, really hoping it'd be Gremlins. But I guess the release of Back to the Future got me overly optimistic. I may get Innerspace though for the time being. I remember liking the music enough. And I do love Goldsmith!

So were these the last releases from Intrada this year? Or are there still a month's worth next month to look forward to?

Yeah, as excited as I am about getting the complete film score of BTTF 1 officially on CD in great sound quality, I am actually more interested to hear this 2nd CD of the original version!!! Maybe it is because I have heard the score apart from the film via this "other way" some people here have mentioned, but I just loved what I heard from the 3 sound clips of this alternate version. It's pretty much a full length score! I find it interesting that perhaps some tracks he didn't change at all from the beginning. Example: Disc 1 has the "'85 Twin Pines Mall" track, but Disc 2 does not, and yet Disc 1 and 2 both have their own long "Clocktower" tracks. So I guess certain tracks retained their use from the beginning, or maybe the alternate simply wasn't different enough.

I totally agree! The first score does repeat itself, but just enough to make it enjoyable, imo. However, the score for Part 2 is hard to listen for the exaggerated amounts of repeat (I think we hear the same renditions of the same music maybe 6 or 7 times at least, no joke, at least in its complete form). And Part 3 is just good in parts, but at least is different. But yeah, as for Part 2 being one of the best sequels ever, I agree! It is a bit darker, funnier, and goes back to the first movie with the exact same events from a different angle. It was a pretty brave thing for a sequel to such a successful movie to do, and I know not everyone likes it very much. But that was probably why they followed it with the much more formulaic Part 3, which is also enjoyable, but not nearly as original as Part 2 was. I don't think there is any film like it that was made before it or since.

Then it probably is true!

Where in the article linked does it say anything about Innerspace? Did they take it out? If so, then it probably was true then! lol Though that score is decent, I still would much rather have Gremlins. But that may be hoping for too much still, heh.

Anyone else hear the sound clip for "Peabody Farm" on CD 2 of BTTF? I am so excited to hear this alternate version of the score! That cue sounds almost like from a horror film for a while there, haha. Thought I was listening to a cue from Alien or a scary bit from Mummy Returns, lol. Awesome.

That may be, but the case was the same for Back To The Future, wasn't it (the original album with songs had the main theme and a 7 minute suite)? And look what just happened? So there is hope yet. I've had hope for ANYTHING coming out this year ever since the release of Honey, I Shrunk The Kids. I thought that release would NEVER happen due to the legal conflicts the score had. And because it's Disney.

I also amended my order on Intrada to get "In Search Of Peace" at the last minute. I REALLY didn't want to spend much on soundtracks right now (since I am supposed to try and get christmas presents during the Black Friday insanity)... but after listening to all the sound clips on the site, it sounds like a truly great score. And since that one is only 1,000 units, even if I don't end up liking it I figure it will eventually be highly valuable. Never seen the film it comes from, though.

I noticed that the BTTF song album does not contain the Mr. Sandman song. I know it's just a silly 50s song, but that song signifies in my mind the first appearance of the 50s version of Hill Valley when Marty is walking around. Totally ingrained in my mind. Guess I'll have to get that song elsewhere... grrr.

Wow, I didn't see this coming at all! What a surprise! These last 2 years have been soo good for film score fans (at least for me). Last year it was the Indiana Jones box set (which alone made last year one of the best score releases in the last decade, heh). But this year I was excited for Honey, I Shrunk The Kids (never thought it'd see the light of day!), Twilight Zone, and now, the best of all, Back to the Future!!! I listened to all the clips on Intrada and was really intrigued by this alternate, and apparently, original take on the score! I had no idea it even existed! I knew they were going for a darker angle originally, but I had no idea it made it so far into production that Silvestri was actually able to score it that way. Wow, this is exciting (and makes it worth it to buy even more since I have had an incomplete boot of the film version's score for some time, like I am sure most here have). And funny enough, now I sort of want to buy the original album as well (for as cheap as I can). This is one of those rare movies where some of the songs in the film really are part of it's identity. I can see why they aren't on this release, though. But now I want the whole package, and may arrange it with the songs in film order with the score. The fact that the year is still not over with some other great scores possibly being released, I'll voice a common request here that I really, really hope GREMLINS finally gets it's release! It's the one Goldsmith score left unreleased that I would personally love to have! Hell, reissue GREMLINS 2 while they are at it, complete this time!

For those that missed my big review of the film in the other thread: http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17754&view=findpost&p=608248

Oh, my goodness... one last point I forgot to make about Twilight: New Moon: ADDENDUM: *Evidence 6: Twilight Fans Have No Concept Of The Seasons! --I had to add this detail. Near the beginning, after Edward makes his puppy Bella leave him alone because he doesn't want her anymore, Bella is depressed. I get it. Okay. But apparently this girl does nothing but stare out her window for months. How do we know this? Through a nice camera shot that goes around her, that's how. But the director apparently thinks Twilight fans have no concept of the seasons. The shot would have been effective and self-explanatory quite enough just seeing the different seasons that are shown outside her window (raking leaves to moving snow). But NO... not only do we get the obvious visuals... but the director has to TELL US in the form of subtitles that it's "October", "November", "December"... lol. Does he think the fans are really that thick to not understand the seasons, and that months are passing? Hell!

Well of course! Movies like this, that are so popular, yet so horrible, deserve to have a full analysis of why. And writing bad reviews are way more fun than positive ones. Oh, and I really want to see The Bad Lieutenant - Port To Call: New Orleans as well! I have a feeling it will be entertaining in some similar ways with the acting and such, haha. Though I am sure it will still be a much better film than New Moon ever will be, no matter what the box office says.

*NOTE: This article of my own contains explicit language... if the automatic board sensors don't pick up the bad words, mods, please feel free to edit post. But please don't delete it!* TWILIGHT: New Moon Is Female/Gay Porn For The Ages! Okay... here's the deal. I get the appeal of the series. I do. It's the whole "forbidden love" story that we have seen a billion times now, but just a different take on it. Hell, there is a whole part in the movie where they showcase Romeo And Juliet! That's fine, I get it. But after watching almost 2 and a half hours of the newest movie last night... I simply do NOT get it. If you are a diehard fan of the series, just stop reading this blog now. It'll probably just anger you, and there is nothing I am going to say that will change your mind on what you think of the series. As for everyone else... oh my god... First: my stance on the series. I have NOT read any of the books, for starters. But from what I hear, they are more ridiculously sappy and "romantic" than the movies try to be. And for that, I say "no thanks" to ever reading them. Never have I been even tempted to read a romance novel. Which is all they are... romance novels with teeth. Ugh, you know what else has teeth?.... oh nevermind. Anyway, so I have not read the novels, but I have been told a thing or two about what happens later on with the series (which seems to actually get a bit more exciting and graphic). I have seen the first movie, Twilight, and on initial viewing thought it was pretty horrible. I recently watched it again before seeing the new movie, and actually thought it wasn't quite as bad as whole as I once deducted, but still thought there were loooong periods of the film that were so unintentionally bad that I found entertainment value within those scenes. From long akward pauses to the "glittery vampire" scene (which, I am sorry to offend anyone's likeness of the series, is the most hilariously retarded concept for a vampire story I have ever heard). Fast forward to New Moon. What is my basic deduction of this film? Better? Worse? In some ways the new film is stylistically better and more interesting, but in terms of being worse... it goes in some new directions altogether. With some hilarious results. *Evidence 1: Bella And Edward Only Have Puppy Love --I saw this coming a mile away! When Edward breaks up with Bella in the forest, I literally had flashbacks of movies where a poor little boy has to get rid of his dog for killing the neighbor's chicken coop, even though he doesn't want to. It comes complete with a line similar to that of, "I don't want you anymore! Go!". LOL. And considering the fact that these two are so DEEPLY in love, and yet can barely even kiss, I guess "puppy love" is a pretty accurate description of the reality of their love. *Evidence 2: Bella Has Got Issues --It was bad enough she wanted to get with a vampire in the first place. But I see the gothy appeal. However, she starts having nightmares about growing old before Edward does. Okay, that does suck. Just a mere accidental drop of blood causes Edward's entire family to go after her. Okay... that sucks to. In fact, just being AROUND any vampire makes them go crazy for her since she apparently reeks of blood potpourri. Sucky. So... Edward breaks up with her. I understand the inital pain and unbearable sadness. I've been there, recently I might add. However... her decisions afterward are pretty puzzling. Enter Jacob, perhaps the hottest most underage thing I have seen to grace the screen in a long, long time. He has a much better personality than the depressing Edward ever did, and as a bonus, has cared about Bella all along. Oh, and he is supremely hot, did I mention that? Because he really, really is. You know... for a kid... uhm... anyway... Well, it's been some many months now since she has even heard from Edward, and yet she still can't grasp that he has left her and it's fucking OVER. She killed his neighbor's chicken coop, pushed her out into the forest, and screamed "I don't want you anymore! Go!" remember? And yet when this hot-as-hell and nice-as-hell guy tries to merely grab her hand she freaks out! And then she goes on to explain "I will always be broken". Woooooaaaaaaahhhhh.... Over puppy love? My goodness. In fact, she is so broken, throughout the movie she attempts to counter her depression of Edward by becoming an adrenaline junkie. This comes complete with wreckless driving, going off with a potentional rapist, and even jumping off a insanely high cliff "just for sport", but of course almost dieing in the process. Wow. If that weren't bad enough, this girl later discovers... "Jacob, yousa werewilf". Okay, she doesn't say it like that (and for those who know me well will know why I said it that way, hahaha), but you get the idea. This girl is just a MAGNET for freaks. I thought I was bad! (Okay, not ALL of them have been freaks). However... this I don't understand. Here it goes. She basically has a choice to either be with the depressing Edward, who she will only be happy with if she destroys her soul to become a vampire.... OR.... to be with the much hotter, much nicer, and much more interesting Jacob (who has also known her much longer), whom she doesn't (and I guess can't anyway, as far as the lore for this movie goes) have to become a werewolf to be with him, and instead of dealing with his "problem" on a 24/7 basis, only needs to if he gets angry at her or I guess if the moon is full. I don't know about the rest of you, but the decision in my opinion seems very clear. Sure, she was with Edward first, but hell, he pushed her into the forest, remember? That means the end. So... Jacob all the way. But what does she do? Well, I guess the idea of sucking blood with her boyfriend turns her on. Clearly, she has issues. *Evidence 3: Jacob Clinically Can't Help But Drop It Like It's Hot --Okay... guilty pleasure time... this Jacob kid IS one hot beast. No joke. When the shirt comes off the first time, it was the one moment my eyes were invested in the screen. However, I was also laughing, at least in my head, painfully hard. Imagine this scene: "Oh... your head is bleeding... here... let me rip off my shirt real quick to patch you up..." No joke. That is exactly what happens. I swear, they used his body as some kind of product placement for the essence of sex. Because from that moment on, the "no shirt, plenty of service" idea never stops... his shirt I think only appears on him one more time in the whole film. Which, as I am making it clear, isn't a bad thing, but for some reason it just comes off as unintentionally hilarious. And in just about every scene that this is the case, Bella can't help but make SOME kind of comment about it or just place her hands on his abs as they are in the heat of a tense moment. But as hot as this kid is, Bella barely kisses him too! What the fuck?! Oh wait, this should be part of the previous evidence. Oh well! And sure, this guy has a couple of mood swings. Who doesn't, right? But when he does transform into a werewolf, and chases off another into the woods... then meets up with Bella and the others... where did he suddenly find another pair of shorts along the way? He should have been totally naked! Which would have been amazing, I am sure, but wow... However, the most hilarious part of all this is after him and his werewolf buddies have revealed themselves, and Bella confronts him about it, his plea is: "This is how I was born! This is my lifestyle!" WHAT?! That's what I say all the time about being gay! Is this some kind of allegory or something? Or are werewolves also gay, and this whole "I'm into you, Bella" is just a red herring? Whoa. *Evidence 4: If It Works, Do The Exact Same Setup Over Again! --In a lot of ways, this movie is exactly the same as the first one. I know sequels sometimes do that, but really, this one does to a T at times. After the whole Edward breakup scene, she is basically in the same position she was at the beginning of the first movie. Just more depressed. Nerdy guy still wants to be with her. Her same nerdy friends (and that horribly annoying asian kid) try to... be friends. Which to her is a HORRIBLE thing, apparently. Dude, why hang out with them at all then, if you feel that way? Enter Jacob... boy she actually does know, but however doesn't see much. They start to hang out. She feels good. Good. And she even repeats the line she says to Edward: "you're beautiful". Except when she says it this time, it is reacting to his ripped abs and not glitter. Anyway, she discovers he has a problem. A supernatural one. Then, eventually, he shooes her away for her own good. Woah! We went in a fucking circle here! The difference now is by the end she has a choice between Guy With Issues 1 or Guy With Issues 2. She makes the choice, and the movie ends. Wow. *Evidence 5: Make Something Interesting Happen, But Only For 10 Minutes Or Less --Near the end of the movie, there is a fun subplot of Bella having to travel far away to try to stop Edward from basically committing suicide and mass murder. In the process she ends up in a fairly interesting setting with some fairly interesting, and actually creepy, vampires. They even "play with her" a little bit, with some interesting results (she is ammune to their powers?! woah!!!!). That lasts for a good ten minutes. Ten minutes where I actually was interested in what was going on and felt engaged. But... then the movie goes back to where it was. And ends. Too little, too late. So there you have it. New Moon. As you can see, for the average filmgoer, this movie will either A) Drive You Insane, B) Make You Laugh Your Ass Off, C) Be The Best Eye Candy Of The Year, or D) ALL Of The Above. Of course, the fans (you have to love them) are eating this all up, and may be taking it far more serious than they should. But I understand, I'm a Harry Potter fan. I probably take that more seriously than I should. But there is one big difference. The vampires in Harry Potter don't fucking sparkle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFSn5rs70Rc

Yeah I hope somebody digs up recording sessions of that Goldsmith score... oh wait! I wish some soundtrack company would release a legit release of GREMLINS! (I will annoyingly keep repeating this wish til it happens) Yeah the Filmtracks review for Supergirl was rubbish. As was his review of Goldsmith's King Solomon's Mines score. He only gave it 2 stars! What a jerk! I don't think he understands the music was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, clearly. I mean he used the Wagner music as the theme for the villains (apparently per request of the director)! Hahaha. I still, however, am not sure if I like the older album that was mistakenly sped up, or the newer Prometheus album with the correct speed. That older album was my first listen to the score and having it played faster made the score seem more alive than at the real speed (the performance isn't quite great as it was). Hmmm. As for the movie King Solomon's Mines (1985)... it is also a horrible movie. But it's the best kind of bad movie there could possibly be! Hilariously entertaining (in an intentional and unintentional way) with some horrible one-liners, character scenarios, and relentless references to Indiana Jones. Top it off with the over-the-top score, and you have yourself a fun night.

*throws around all sorts of foul words*

But I wonder what the sound quality is like of these from the new Lego game? As asked before, are there any sound effects obscuring the sound on the KOTCS unreleased music found in the files? If so, how badly?

Someone mentioned Supergirl, and I couldn't agree more. The movie is a pretty bad train wreck, though amusing in parts (mostly unintentional... and having "Mommie Dearest" as the villain is pretty strange, hahaha). But Goldsmith's score for the film is... dare I say it here... to me more engaging in parts than Williams' Superman score. *gets ready for backlash* I remember reading Filmtrack's recent review of the score, calling it something like "overly optimistic" sounding. And you know what, that's actually what I love about it. Do scores always have to sound dark and meaningful? My favorites usually aren't, they are just fun to listen to. And Supergirl is a pretty fun score with a sweeping theme and some great action. The villain music is a bit weak (maybe because the villain herself was a a weak character?), but he does have some fun with it in the "Monster Tractor" piece. The only shame is the album releases. It's hard to release this score in a way that will please everybody, unless they someday release a mega-complete release. In some ways the score has an identity crisis: it switches from using electronics a lot to not. I think Goldsmith must have recorded at least 2 different versions of each cue, no kidding! It's really evident when you compare the old Varese album with the newer, more complete one. The main theme on the varese album, for example, is light on the electronics, whereas the expanded album has the film's more electronic take. The most obvious change is if you compare tracks for the "Monster Storm" music. There must have been like 3 versions of this one... because even the film version sounds different than the other two! Ugh! I wish they would release the whole score with the non-electronic takes only, because it is far more effective without the constant "woosh!" sounds (and less annoying). For now all one can do is just edit between the two albums for your own personal preference (which I have done). What do you guys think of this score?

Awesome. I bought it yesterday.

Yeah I'm still buying it. What was the original price? Since it's on sale.