[HOOK (1991) - NEW! 2023 3-CD Ultimate Edition Produced, Edited, and Mastered by Mike Matessino featuring all Williams/Bricusse songs]

While we’re eagerly anticipating the shipment of this new set, care to peek at half of the original CD breakdown?

 

[HOOK (1991) - NEW! 2023 3-CD Ultimate Edition Produced, Edited, and Mastered by Mike Matessino featuring all Williams/Bricusse songs]

I’m surprised no one’s commented on the sample of the short version of Farewell Neverland. It sounds just like the familiar ending until abruptly heading off in a different direction (sounding rather like the Never-feast insert) at the very end of the clip. What a tease!

[Williams Scores Worth a 3 CD Set (like A.I., HP1, Superman and Hook)]

12 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

Same I would assume for Rise of Skywalker and The Last Jedi to be honest.

Those had 226 minutes and 184 minutes recorded, respectively, well over the running time of two CDs, 160 minutes.

 

12 hours ago, crumbs said:

I'm pretty sure everything from TLC fits on two discs, even allowing for multiple versions of cues (with and without inserts).

I actually timed it out TLC one time, and I came up with:

 

Film Score Presentation 105 minutes

Source Music 9 minutes

Alternates 32 minutes

 

That would fit comfortably on 2 discs.

[The Official Intrada Thread]

3 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

One more to come from them in 2023:

Fingers crossed for The Patriot!

[The La-La Land Black Friday 2023 thread]

7 hours ago, StarFox said:

Any rumors about John Williams' The Patriot?

 

That'd be a nice 2-CD set

The original soundtrack of The Patriot was released on Hollywood Records, owned by Disney, which hasn’t worked with La-La Land to date. Much likelier to be an Intrada release.

 

But yes, it’d make for a fantastic 2-CD set!

[John Williams' OST album breakdowns]

I'd previously shared the Sleepers breakdown in a different thread, but it hasn't made its way here yet:

 

Sleepers (1996)

 

1 Sleepers At Wilkinson 3:42

0:00-2:18 1M1 Sleepers

2:18-end 3M5 New - Last Night at Wilkinsons

 

2 Hell’s Kitchen 5:23

8M5 New - Hell’s Kitchen

 

3 The Football Game 4:10

3M3 New - The Football Game

 

4 Saying The Rosary 6:54

0:00-2:22 7M3 At Mass

2:22-end 6M5 Saying The Rosary

 

5 The Trip To Wilkinson 2:35

2M7+8 The Sentencing

 

6 Time In Solitary 4:24

4M2 Football Star

 

7 Revenge 2:47

7M4 New - Revenge For Rizzo

 

8 Michael’s Witness 4:09

7M3 New - The Crossexamination Of Ferguson

 

9 Learning The Hard Way 5:22

0:00-1:05 1M10 Lessons In An Alley

1:05-1:43 2M4 Down Subway Stairs

1:43-end 3M1 New - The Basement At Wilkinsons

 

10 Last Night At Wilkinson 3:51

3M5 New - Last Night At Wilkinsons

 

11 Father Bobby’s Decision 3:56

2M6 Talking to Father

 

12 Reliving The Past 3:41

0:00-0:11 unknown, possibly dictated at session

0:11-2:40 3M1 Life At Wilkinson’s

2:40-end 8M8 Father Bobby Reflects

 

13 Reunion And Finale 5:30

0:00-2:40 9M3 The Reunion

2:40-end 9M5 Finale

[Warner Bros. unreleased / unexpanded titles that may never see the light of day]

On 6/9/2023 at 10:17 AM, JTWfan77 said:

I'm not sure if much is missing from Sleepers.

 

There's roughly 21-22 minutes unreleased from Sleepers, if everything in the sketches was recorded:

 

[Jurassic Park 2-CD (La-La Land) - 5th Of July 2022]

10 minutes ago, CuriousMan said:

No, I don't think it's an alternate. I'm convinced it's the only existing version. Maybe there's an unexplained arrangement detail?

There’s certainly nothing in JW’s sketch to indicate it’s an alternate:

 

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

1 hour ago, Damien F said:

I think there is about 20 - 30 seconds from the beginning of the Polybius Cipher track that plays when Helana follows Indy from the college to the bar.

 

I believe that's tracked, because the same music appears again along with the rest of the Polybius Cipher material. That would explain why 'Helena's Tutorial' is in the cue list in two different places.

 

My little theory is the very opening of the Prologue track is the original cue composed for Helena's introduction.

[RESTORED ISOLATED SCORE: Star Wars Saga (Unused Music Restored To Picture)]

1 hour ago, ragoz350 said:

7m67B Rey Gets The Saber (no later than November 2)
Later, JW worked two more times on the moment, which ended up being accompanied by A Home Destroyed from ANH. This insert adds another rendition of Rey's theme before the duel begins.

If this version of Rey’s theme seems oddly familiar, that’s because it was tracked into TROS (when Rey is on the Star Destroyer, just before Kylo shows up in his TIE Fighter).

 

Big thanks to @Falstaft for catching that!

[Hal Leonard Signature Editions]

Yep, here's confirmation of the original order of the suite:

 

 

[Hal Leonard Signature Editions]

On 7/8/2023 at 12:42 PM, Michael G. said:

Hm, why is "The Rise of Skywalker" titled as part 1 here?

In a leak that's going around it is titled part 2

 

 

I guess JW changed his mind and swapped the order. I believe at the Detroit Symphony's premiere performance of the complete suite, The Rise Of Skywalker was in fact the 2nd movement (and Psalm of the Sith was 1st).

[The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

On 4/8/2023 at 4:29 PM, Trent B said:

@BrotherSound can you list what cues match to the OST and FYC please?

 

I've got the FYC pretty much figured out, but there's still some unknowns in the OST:

 

OST

 

1 Fanfare and Prologue 4:35

0:00-1:26 1M1 Main Title

1:26-2:06 1M22 The Ninth Beginning

2:06-end 1M8 Approaching the Nursery

 

2 Journey to Exegol 2:49

0:00-1:01 1M7 Journey To Hell [?]

1:01-1:42 1M10 Ready To Be A Jedi

1:42-end 1M15 Vader’s Castle

 

3 The Rise of Skywalker 4:18

The Rise of Skywalker

 

4 The Old Death Star 3:17

0:00-0:48 5M10 Landing At ?

0:48-1:20 4M30 It Fits!

1:20-2:21 5M10 Landing At ?

2:21-end 5M12 Off The Waterfront

 

5 The Speeder Chase 3:21

0:00-0:35 3M1 Before the Chase

0:35-3:08 3M3 [untitled]

3:08-end unknown

 

6 Destiny of a Jedi 5:12

0:00-0:22 7M2 Rey Meets Luke

0:22-1:13 6M20 Sabre Toss

1:13-3:01 7M3 Luke's Advice

3:01-end 7M10 Leia's Sabre

 

7 Anthem of Evil 3:24

0:00-1:48 unknown

1:48-2:00 1M8 Approaching the Nursery

2:00-2:48 unknown

2:48-3:07 6M12 Six Twelve

3:07-end unknown

 

8 Fleeing from Kijimi 2:52

0:00-1:38 5M1 Meddling and Poe's Crush

1:38-end 5M7 I'm The Spy

 

9 We Go Together 3:17

0:00-2:33 2M6 The Medal

2:33-end 2M7 Ship Trip

 

10 Join Me 3:43

0:00-0:57 5M8 Geneology

0:57-1:31 1M8 Approaching the Nursery

1:31-2:58 8M4 Psalm of the Sith

2:58-end 5M8 Geneology

 

11 They Will Come 2:50

0:00-1:29 7M4 The Meeting

1:29-end 7M5 March of the Resistance

 

12 The Final Saber Duel 3:58

0:00-1:05 6M7 Stop and Start

1:05-2:54 6M8 Healing Wounds

2:54-end 5M30 Under A Blanket

 

13 Battle of the Resistance 2:51

0:00-1:19 7M12 Seven Twelve

1:19-end 7M12A Horses #2

 

14 Approaching the Throne 4:16

0:00-2:18 7M20 Approaching the Throne

2:18-3:54 7M30 More Action

3:54-4:03 8M4 Psalm of the Sith
4:03-end 1M26 Lightspeed Skipping

 

15 The Force Is With You 3:59

0:00-1:40 7M38 I Am All The Sith

1:40-3:02 7M44 Name That Tune

3:02-end 8M10 Success and Sliding

 

16 Farewell 5:14

0:00-0:48 8M11A Dropping the Sabre

0:48-2:53 8M14 Ben to Rey

2:53-3:05 10M1 Rey and Ren

3:05-end 8M14 Ben to Rey

 

17 Reunion 4:05

9M3 Bows

 

18 A New Home 1:47

9M5Alt Return to Tatooine

 

19 End Credits 10:52

0:00-0:32 8M15 Horn Solo

0:32-end 8M16 End Credits

 

FYC

 

1 Prologue 1:46

0:00-0:08 4M2 Rey's Incredible Hand

0:08-0:36 1M10 Ready To Be A Jedi

0:36-0:56 1M15 Vader's Castle

0:56-1:28 6M13 Rey's Trip to P

1:28-1:38 1M22 The Ninth Beginning

1:38-end 4M3 Chewie's Interrogation

 

2 Falcon Flight 2:22

1M26 Lightspeed Skipping / Spy’s Message

 

3 We Go Together 2:11

2M6 The Medal

 

4 In The Desert 2:27

0:00-0:08 4M1 Rey Senses Ren's Approach

0:08-0:18 5M8A More Maz

0:18-1:57 4M1 Rey Senses Ren’s Approach

1:57-end 4M3 Chewie’s Interrogation

 

5 A Prisoner 1:24

0:00-0:28 1M8 Approaching the Nursery

0:28-end 4M12 Ship Walk and Talk

 

6 To Kijimi 1:38

0:00-0:27 4M5 To the End

0:27-0:48 4M5B Good Ship, Bad Ship

0:48-1:11 2M6 The Medal

1:11-1:24 2M4 The Emperor Lives

1:24-end 1M13 Tell Me What They Are

 

7 Fleeing From Kijimi 1:53

5M1 Meddling and Poe’s Crush

 

8 Hallway Shooting 2:11

5M3 Hallway Shooting

 

9 Hard To Get Rid Of 2:20

0:00-0:25 8M4 Psalm of the Sith

0:25-0:33 5M6 Hard To Get Rid Of

0:33-0:43 8M11 Dropping the Saber

0:43-0:50 8M14 Ben To Rey

0:50-1:29 5M6 Hard To Get Rid Of

1:29-1:39 2M4 The Emperor Lives

1:39-1:52 5M5 Rey Sees Mother

1:52-1:57 5M6 Hard To Get Rid Of

1:57-2:01 4M3 Chewie's Interrogation

2:01-end 5M6 Hard To Get Rid Of

 

10 Join Me 2:22

0:00-0:57 5M8 Geneology

0:57-1:18 1M8 Approaching the Nursery

1:18-1:46 8M4 Psalm of the Sith

1:46-2:00 7M12 Seven Twelve

2:00-end 5M8 Geneology

 

11 The Old Death Star 2:15

0:00-0:43 5M10 Landing at ?

0:43-1:20 4M30 It Fits!

1:20-1:27 3M4 Quicksand!

1:27-1:43 0M1 Children’s School

1:43-end 7M1 Seven One

 

12 Off The Waterfront 1:04

5M12 Off The Waterfront

 

13 Final Saber Duel 1:38

6M7 Stop and Start

 

14 Healing Wounds 2:50

0:00-1:40 6M8 Healing Wounds

1:40-end 5M30 Under A Blanket

 

15 Advice 1:54

7M8 Father Knows Best

 

16 Battle of the Resistance 1:54

0:00-1:19 7M12 Seven Twelve

1:19-1:39 7M12A Horses #2

1:39-end 7M12 Seven Twelve

 

17 Approaching the Throne 4:17

0:00-2:18 7M20 Approaching the Throne

2:18-4:04 7M30 More Action

4:04-end 8M4 Psalm of the Sith

 

18 Parents 1:57

0:00-1:48 7M21 Parents

1:48-end The Last Jedi: 1M9 Revisiting Snoke

 

19 Coming Together 1:45

7M32 Make The Sacrifice

 

20 Seeing Sights 3:17

0:00-1:41 7M38 I Am All The Sith

1:41-end 7M44 Name That Tune

 

21 Rescue 1:11

0:00-0:16 8M10 Success and Sliding

0:15-0:26 8M7 Big Ship Blows Up

0:26-end 8M10 Success and Sliding

 

22 Farewell 4:27

0:00-2:09 8M14 Ben To Rey

2:09-2:21 10M1 Rey and Ren

2:21-end 8M14 Ben To Rey

 

23 A New Home 1:43

9M5Alt Return To Tatooine

[The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

29 minutes ago, Trent B said:

So is there a full complete cue list for the score? Or does anyone know the proper order for the score?

 

@Falstaft's Star Wars thematic guide has a lengthy list: https://franklehman.com/starwars/

 

Spoiler

0m1 Children's School
1m1 Main Title
1m2 Filial Fencing
1m3 Nothing is Impossible
1m4 Through The Jungle
1m5 Rey Trains
1m6 Ren's Entrance
1m7 Journey to Hell
1m8 Approaching The Nursery
1m9 Rey Wakes Up
1m10 Ready to Be A Jedi
1m11 Talking to Luke
1m13 Tell Me What They Are
1m14 Falcon’s Last Trip
1m15 Vader’s Castle
1m20 Rey Training
1m22 The Ninth Beginning
1m24 Meditation
1m26 Spy's Message
1m26 (2) Lightspeed Skipping
2m1 Cockpit Dialog
2m2 Fixing The Helmet
2m3 The Wisdom of Maz
2m4 The Emperor Lives
2m6 The Medal
2m7 Ship Trip
2m20 The Forge
2m30 Rey's Mission
2m32 Quicksand
3m0 Lando
3m1 Before The Chase
3m3 [No Title]
3m4 Quicksand!
3m6 Knights of Ren
3m7 Ochi and the Dagger
3m8 Tunnel Monster
4m1 Rey Senses Ren's Approach
4m1C —
4m2 Rey's Incredible Hand
4m3 Chewie’s Interrogation
4m4 Zucini?
4m5 To The End
4m5A Ships in the Night
4m5B Good Ship, Bad Ship
4m6 He Won't Remember
4m7 Rey’s Grief
4m10 Red Eyes
4m11 Poe and Girlfriend
4m12 Ship, Walk and Talk
4m20 Bridge to Rey
4m22 The Feeling
4m30 It Fits!
5m1 Meddling and Poe's Crush
5m3 Hallway Shooting
5m5 Rey Sees Mother
5m6 Hard To Get Rid Of
5m7 I'm The Spy
5m8 Geneology [sic]
5m8A More Maz
5m9 Rey’s Mission
5m10 Landing At?
5m11 Instinct
5m12 Off The Waterfront
5m30 Under a Blanket
6m2 Rey Climbs Pipes
6m2A Climbing
6m4 Daisy In A Veil
6m5 Leia Lies Down
6m7 Stop and Start
6m8 Healing Wounds
6m12 Insert - Six Twelve
6m13 Rey's Trip To Palpatine
6m16 Rey’s Trip to P[alpatine]
6m20 Sabre Toss
6m22 Wayfinder Insert
7m1 Seven One
7m2 Rey Meets Luke
7m3 Luke's Advice
7m4 The Meeting
7m5 March Of The Resistance
7m5A Good Ships
7m6 Uncharted Territory
7m8 Father Knows Best
7m10 Leia's Sabre
7m12 Seven Twelve
7m12A Horses #2
7m20 Approaching The Throne
7m21 Parents
7m28 Seeing Sights
7m30 More Action
7m32 Make The Sacrifice
7m36 Dunkirk [The Dunkirk Shot]
7m38 Seeing the Sights [I Am All The Sith]
7m40 Emperor’s Attack
7m42 Hero Fight
7m44 Name That Tune
8m1 Approaching the Emperor #2
8m3 v1 —
8m4 Psalm of the Sith
8m4C1o —
8m4C2 —
8m4D Chant
8m5A Mixing Themes
8m5 Jumping The Chain
8m5B The Crowd Joins In
8m5B Choir Overdub
8m6 The Last Fight
8m7 Big Ship Blows Up
8m7A Replace Brass
8m8 On Their Knees
8m8C Chorus
8m9 Rey and Palpatine
8m10 Success and Sliding
8m11A Dropping The Sabre
8m14 Ben to Rey
8m15 Horn Solo [v2 To the Ending]
8m16 End Credits
8m17 Duel of the Fates Excerpt
8m40 The Kiss
8m42 Falling Debris
9m3 Bows
9m5ALT Return to Tattooine
9m30 Emperor’s Theme v1
9m31 Emperor’s Theme v2
9m32 Emperor’s Theme v3
9m33 Emperor’s Theme v4
9m34 Emperor’s Theme v5
10m1 Rey and Ren
— Anthem of Evil
— Chant 1
— Chant 2
— The Rise of Skywalker
— [Untitled]
— XM1, XM2, XM4

 

The ordering is confusing for a couple reasons: as the film was shortened in the edit, it was changed from 9 reels to 8 reels (that's why we have 9M3 Bows, which goes before 8M16 End Credits), and a number of scenes were moved around, especially in the first couple reels.

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!]

It just occurred to me while listening to The Airport that this nervous opening string ostinato seems to be derived from the first four notes of Helena’s theme. @Falstaft @Ludwig Do you agree?

 

 

[John Williams & Gustavo Dudamel conduct the LA Philharmonic at The Hollywood Bowl, July 7-9 2023]

A pair of spotlights were turned on overhead, beginning with the Raiders March, to stunning effect:
 

A sea of lightsabers ignited for the Star Wars selections:

 

[John Williams & Gustavo Dudamel conduct the LA Philharmonic at The Hollywood Bowl, July 7-9 2023]

1 hour ago, atmicwedgy said:

Was Saturday’s setlist identical to Friday’s?

Yes, with the same three encores: Yoda’s theme, Flying Theme from E.T., and the Imperial March.

[John Williams & Gustavo Dudamel conduct the LA Philharmonic at The Hollywood Bowl, July 7-9 2023]

 

Made it!

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

2 hours ago, crocodile said:

Also, the first music we hear in the film is the same material we hear in the prologue track starting from 1:07.

It’s similar, but not quite the same. For instance, the film version has a loud chime right on the title card.

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!]

2 minutes ago, BTR1701 said:

Where have we seen that sheet music? I'd love to have a look.

It’s one page of a French horn part:

 

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

7 hours ago, BB-8 said:

Is it Don Williams on timps?

 

Judging by the sound it is.

Pretty sure it’s Don throughout, except for perhaps a few passages that sound like they may be doubled with a second timpanist, likely Greg Goodall, who I believed played all the 2nd timpani on The Rise of Skywalker and The Lost World.

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

Finally saw the film. A couple moments I wanted to call out:

 

The very opening would make a great FYC track. Love the deep chime right on the title card!

 

The film version of the Tuk Tuk sequence has a fantastic version of the Raiders B-theme, it’s only action-mode appearance in the score.

 

The ending of the Tuk Tuk In Tangiers track actually shows up much later in the film, when they drive the wedding car chasing after Teddy, but doesn’t appear during the Tuk Tuk chase. Tracking or JW combining music from different scenes in one album track?

[John Williams & Gustavo Dudamel conduct the LA Philharmonic at The Hollywood Bowl, July 7-9 2023]

On 14/6/2023 at 10:34 AM, lairdo said:

I'm excited that I will be attending the Saturday concert. I have not been to the Bowl since pre-COVID (or seen JW since Tanglewood in 2019 SAW him at the Indy 5 Premiere!)!

 

Hope to catch up with fellow JWFans that might be there that night.

I’ll be there! Anyone else?

[Dial of Destiny: Theme Transcriptions (Updated)]

7 hours ago, Falstaft said:

As for main Voller/Nazi themes: here I think there really is one central tune that gets an unambiguous statement once or twice on album, while a lot of the other material is a clipped or diminuted (compressed rhythmic durations) variant, particularly the phrase ending 3-pitch tag (the Knights of Ren soundalike)

Speaking of which, looks like that 3-note motif appears in 3M10 v1.1 Whip At A Gun Fight. Does anyone know if this cue was used in the film, or was it entirely replaced by music in Auction at Hotel L’Atlantique?

 

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

1 minute ago, Incanus said:

I wonder why Williams decided to sprinkle seemingly unrelated Indy music quotes throughout, not themes but rather direct lifts from the underscore?

 

Many directors have an unfortunate tendency to fall in love with their temp score, and may have asked JW to imitate it as closely as possible, or even had it tracked (we're not sure yet what was tracked vs. re-recorded note-for-note).