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4 hours ago, Alex said:

There is a weird kind of thumping sound at the beginning of the Prologue (1.24). But I can only hear it with my headphones.

That’s a bass drum.

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40 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

I could be wrong but I'm assuming it's Auction at Hotel L'Atlantique. Unless there's more to that cue.

It seems a likely candidate, but nothing from the sheet music we’ve seen for ‘Whip at a Gun Fight’ is in this track.
 

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Really loving 3:47-4:07 of The Grafikos! Sounds like music for some kind of moment where the magic begins to work, or the machine whirs to life.

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@Falstaft After noting the surprising lack of snare drum in the Star Wars sequel trilogy, I think you’ll be pleased to hear that the Indy 5 album has plenty of snare! In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s more snare just on the OST than in the entirety of those three scores.

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35 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I liked the Goldsmith Planet of the Apes-style woodwinds and percussion in 2:50 of Water Ballet. Does anyone know which instrument is this?

 

Sounds like some various high-pitched wood blocks and/or temple blocks:

 

This whole track has some particularly striking orchestrations, right?

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12 minutes ago, Tydirium said:

I will say, if he reprises TLC music for the opening sequence yet doesn’t use the classic Nazi theme, it will be a massive missed opportunity!

The Raiders, rather than TLC, Nazi theme is present.

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So great to finally have the studio version of Helena’s theme!

 

I notice the orchestration of the opening has been revised since the concerts to feature piano rather than woodwinds.

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Also, extremely minor nerdy detail: based on “3M10”, looks like he’s continuing to use the type of numbering he used for TROS, where each reel starts over at 1:

 

1M1–1M12

2M1–2M12

3M1–3M12

etc.

 

Rather than the numbering he used for TFA and TLJ, where the cue numbers continue to increase throughout the film:

 

1M1–1M9

2M10–2M19

3M20–3M29

etc.

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It’s even got a date: 7/28/22

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8 minutes ago, DangerMotif said:

It’s not available with any VPN.

seems like a long track though

The Disney site specifies the duration as 4:17.

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14 hours ago, Signals said:

22 Shit Explosion

 

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7 hours ago, Holko said:

RotJ tracks in ESB, AotC tracks in TPM, RotS tracks in TPM and AotC, TROS tracks in RotJ, maybe TFA and who the hell knows what else.

TLJ technically tracks TFA if you count the reused main title recording.
 

TROS went absolutely nuts with tracking from other episodes. Some instances are only a couple seconds, and some are quite lengthy:

 

The Force Awakens (11)

 

1M1A Starry Night

3M26R You’re Han Solo (x2)

4M36R I Ran Into You

5M46R Kylo Stalks Rey

6M50R Han and Leia Reunion

6M56E Ren in Cockpit

7M65B Father And Son

7M67B Rey Gets Sabre

8M77 March of the Resistance

 

The Last Jedi (8)

 

1M9 Revisiting Snoke (x2)

2M18A Holdo’s Secret Plan

3M22 Fun With Finn and Rose

4M36 Luke and Rey

5M48 Insert

9M85A Insert - Rey Looks

0M8 Saying Goodbye to the Fathier

 

Revenge of the Sith (3)

 

7M3 The Birth of the Twins (x2)

7M5 Plans for the Twins

 

Return of the Jedi (1)

 

13M2 Vader’s Death

 

Total: 20 unique tracked cues, 23 instances

[JW's secret lyrics]

Seeing this thread bumped reminded me: I’m surprised the Sabrina theme was never paired with any lyrics, because those phrase endings sure sound like they were meant to accompany the name “Sabrina”: 

 

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4 hours ago, Jay said:

Even just omitting Falcon Flight from TROS is baffling to me.  What a treat we got it on the FYC album, or it'd be a crazy holy grail cue

Speaking of FYCs, we’ve been spoiled by having the FYC very soon after the OST for almost every JW score of the 2010s: only The BFG wasn’t a year-end release (and we sadly still haven’t heard that FYC). So, we’ve got a big wait in store to see exactly what we’re getting with the FYC this time, and obsess over which favorite moments missing from the OST will make it or not…

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9 hours ago, BB-8 said:

Are there any 3-note themes by JW?

 

The Ark theme from Raiders is based around a repeating three-note idea.

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3 hours ago, TolkienSS said:

I don't get it, the end titles are the easiest to score. Surely Williams' composition wasn't off by several minutes.

 

The end titles are often one of the very last things to be completed for a film, and it seems pretty common that edits are required to get the music to time out properly, at least in recent years.

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2 hours ago, Courtney said:

These are awesome! These kinds of videos put smiles on my face. I await the say someone does these with TROS.

 

@ragoz350 has actually done at least a couple for TROS already, like these:

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, ragoz350 said:

The Last Jedi.

Luke's Noble End.

 

In total, JW wrote 6 versions of this scene, although only the third version shows significant changes. I made a separate video for each version.

 

Whoa, fantastic work on this, @ragoz350!

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20 hours ago, Brando said:

KOTCS’s score is so so good. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I have a feeling that when it gets remastered and expanded, more people on here will come to appreciate it. The recording session leak is awesome, but when we have about the same thing C&C, and in better quality, there’ll be more fans.

The OST badly needed the complete Jungle Chase…

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One month to go!

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One month to go! Possibly even a little less if the album is out June 28th, as Mangold suggested.

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1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

I long for the day when we'll be all discussing the great cues from The Patriot that were inexplicably excluded from the OST (and replaced by a reprise of the end credits).

It’ll be worth it for ‘The North Star’ alone!

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3 hours ago, Alex said:

This review contains some potential spoilers so I’m going to post it here

 

 https://www.gamesradar.com/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-review/

 

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thankfully, we do get to see an on-screen map charting the characters’ movements.

Map cue confirmed?

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I’m not 100% sure yet whether this belongs here or in the general forum, but let’s be hopeful. Mike Matessino just made some interesting comments over on the Film Score Monthly forums, and apparently he has a release that will be announced very soon:

 

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Terrible feeling when a thread bump worries you.

I am working on several things as always. Some are rather large in scope and are taking a long time to get finished. As always it's the administration rather than the audio, and in general the process seems to be taking longer lately for everyone. Whether a project makes it out within a calendar year is always at the mercy of that, and it's an issue when you're already halfway through the year. There are also projects outside of the soundtrack world that I'm working on.

More immediately there is a release that will be announced very soon that has been in the cooker for a long time, and I hope it will be well received for both what it is as well as for where it might potentially lead.

And since it's correct that projects generally are not announced ahead of release, that's all I can really say. There is a lot going on and all is well.

Intriguing, right?

[Sabrina 2 CD from La-La Land Records (2023)]

I absolutely love this release so far! The themes themselves are gorgeous, and the orchestration absolutely sparkles.

 

I've been comparing the alternates to see what's different:

 

To Paris

 

Opens with the B-section of the Sabrina theme, rather than the A-section.

 

Learning The Ropes

 

Includes the very 90's New Jack Swing-style rhythm section mercifully omitted from the main program.

 

Work Montage

 

Heavier orchestration, including timpani dropped from the main program version.

 

Growing Up In Paris

 

The big swell of the full orchestra towards the end was replaced with a much lighter passage spotlighting the piano.

 

La Vie En Rose

 

As, @MrJosh pointed out, orchestration accompanies the accordion solo from the beginning.

 

On The Porch

 

The accompanying woodwind figures are staccato rather than legato.

 

Linus’ New Life

 

A significantly different composition overall, with a different opening ostinato rhythm. The ending is much more ambiguous in tone.

 

 

After several listens, I'm still not sure about what's different about the alternates of 'Sabrina Is Home' and 'Have Your Tea'. Could you help me out, @Jay?

 

I wish this release had included detailed notes about the alternates like Amistad, but we now know it was basically finished back in 2020. Hopefully future releases will include them. 🤞