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  1. Stepping outside of Star Wars for a moment, here's one I'd love to see, an expanded The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn! Film Score Presentation The Adventures of Tintin 3:01 Sur le Boulevard* 2:30 The Secret of the Scrolls** (Extended Version) 4:30 The Library / The Ship Is Gone* 2:02 Marlinspike Hall 3:59 Introducing the Thompsons and Snowy’s Chase (Extended Version)** 4:27 You Mean, The Poem?* 1:47 Introducing Haddock* 1:53 Tub?…Tub?!* 3:34 In the Radio Room* 4:06 Escape from the Karaboujan 3:21 Captain Haddock Takes The Oars 2:19 Capturing Mr. Silk (Film Version) 2:59 Fire On The Boat* 1:24 Capturing the Plane* 2:28 The Flight to Bagghar 3:35 Sir Francis and the Unicorn (Extended Version)** 5:38 Desert Rescue and Sober Haddock* 1:45 Red Rackham’s Curse and The Treasure (Extended Version)** 7:57 Tin and Emir Exchange Legends / That’s My Ship!* 1:23 The Milanese Nightingale (Extended Version)** 2:10 Presenting Bianca Castafiore 3:28 The Pursuit of the Falcon (Film Version)** 5:49 The Captain’s Counsel 2:13 Raising the Rolls* 0:57 Disc One Total Time 78:29 The Clash of the Cranes (Extended Version)** 5:19 The Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale 5:51 Thompson ‘n Thomson* 2:27 Snowy’s Theme (Extended Version)** 2:42 The Adventure Continues 2:58 Total Score Presentation: 1:36:30 The Early Score The Adventures of Tintin 3:06 The Unicorn Theme 2:00 Introducing the Thompsons 0:45 You Mean, The Poem? 1:45 Tub?…Tub?! 2:57 In the Radio Room 2:03 Escape from the Karaboujan 1:18 Captain Takes the Oars 2:20 Strolling In Disguise 1:52 Sir Francis and the Unicorn 4:30 Red Rackham’s Curse and the Treasure 7:57 Presenting Bianca Castafiore 3:28 The Pursuit of the Falcon 5:45 The Captain’s Counsel 2:10 Raising the Rolls 0:56 The Clash of the Cranes 3:43 Finale 3:20 T.N.T. 3:07 Tintin and Snowy 3:04 The Eye of Bagghar 2:34 Total Alternate Score Time: 1:02:01 Disc 2 Total Time: 1:16:49 Total 2 Disc Time: 2:36:19 Cue breakdown:
  2. Just for fun, and to drool over, I thought I’d share some theoretical tracklists for JW expansions that don’t yet exist, but hopefully will someday! I recently shared TFA in another thread, so here’s TLJ to start: Disc 1 Score Presentation Main Title and Escape (Extended Version) 13:02 Ahch-To Island (Film Version) 2:19 Revisiting Snoke / We Need Luke Skywalker 5:08 The Supremacy (Extended Version) 6:04 Who Are You? 3:30 Admiral Holdo 2:19 Rose Catches Finn 2:30 Old Friends 2:03 Fun With Finn and Rose 3:04 Connection 3:49 Lesson One 2:08 Rey Awakens / Holdo and Poe Conspire 1:29 Canto Bight 2:39 The Master Codebreaker 1:08 Rey’s Training 0:58 Luke and Rey 3:53 Place in the World 2:14 Codebreaker, Thief 2:27 The Fathiers (Extended Version) 6:41 Saying Goodbye to the Fathier / Saving Leia 2:25 The Cave (Film Version) 4:41 You’re Not Alone 4:26 Disc 1 Total: 78:51 Disc 2 Score Presentation (continued) The Sacred Jedi Texts 3:32 Not Enough / Traitor 2:13 Rey's Journey 4:11 I'll Help You 1:24 Working Switches 3:18 Leia and Holdo Part 1:06 A New Alliance (Extended Version) 12:13 Join Me 2:02 Holdo's Resolve 2:18 Chrome Dome (Extended Version) 2:25 Rose and Finn Escape 0:57 Hux and Ren / Arrival at Crait 3:34 The Battle of Crait 7:09 The Spark 4:26 “More!…More!” 3:52 The Last Jedi (Extended Version) 5:04 Peace and Purpose 3:53 Finale 11:02 Disc 2 Total: 74:18 Total Score Time: 2:33:09 Disc 3 Additional Music The Rebellion is Reborn 4:00 Escape (Alternate) 11:47 Ahch-To Island (Alternate) 2:08 Leia Saved 1:38 Fun With Finn and Rose (Alternate) 2:34 Lesson One (Alternate) 2:10 Rey Awakens (Alternate) 1:02 Canto Bight (Alternate) 2:41 The Master Codebreaker (Alternate) 2:14 Rey’s Training (Alternate) 3:10 Place in the World (Alternate) 2:14 The Fathiers (Film Version) 2:29 Saying Goodbye to the Fathier (Alternate) 1:54 You're Not Alone (Alternate) 2:03 The Sacred Jedi Texts (Alternate) 3:11 Working Switches (Alternate) 3:18 Holdo’s Resolve (Alternate) 2:18 Rose and Finn Escape (Alternate) 0:57 The Battle of Crait (Alternate) 7:03 The Last Jedi (Alternate) 3:04 Peace and Purpose (Alternate No. 1) 3:55 Peace and Purpose (Alternate No. 2) 3:52 End Credits (Alternate) 5:53 Disc 3 Total: 76:23 Three-Disc Total Time: 3:49:22 We’ve got less information about TROS, so I was more approximate with my timings. Though 226 minutes of music could theoretically fit on 3 CDs, I suspect this could end up stretching to 4 to properly accommodate the context of the various inserts, etc. Disc 1 Score Presentation Fanfare and Prologue (Film Version)** 4:30 Journey to Exegol (Extended Version)** 7:00 Falcon Flight* 2:30 Rey Trains* 2:30 Tell Me What They Are* 2:00 Somehow, Palpatine Returned* 3:00 We Go Together 3:30 Fixing the Helmet* 3:00 Children's School* 3:00 Lando Appears* 2:30 The Speeder Chase (Extended Version)** 4:30 Quicksand and The Knights of Ren* 1:30 Ochi and the Dagger / Tunnel Monster* 4:00 In the Desert* 3:00 A Prisoner* 2:00 To Kijimi* 3:30 Poe and Zorii* 1:30 He Won't Remember* 3:00 Fleeing from Kijimi (Extended Version)** 3:00 Hallway Shootout* 3:00 Hard to Get Rid Of* 3:30 I'm the Spy** 1:30 Join Me (Extended Version)** 4:00 Total disc 1 time: 78:30 Disc 2 Score Presentation (continued) Rey Vows Revenge* 2:00 The Old Death Star (Extended Version)** 4:30 Climbing and The Throne Room Ruins* 3:00 The Final Saber Duel (Extended Version)** 3:00 Healing Wounds** 3:00 Advice* 1:30 The Destruction of Kijimi** 3:30 Destiny of a Jedi 5:30 They Will Come 3:00 Rey Arrives At Exegol* 1:00 The Battle of the Resistance (Extended Version)** 3:30 Approaching the Throne (Extended Version)** 4:30 Make The Sacrifice* 4:00 The Last Fight* And The Emperor's Attack* 3:00 Lando Returns* 2:00 The Force Is With You (Extended Version)** 4:30 Farewell 5:30 Reunion 4:00 A New Home 2:00 Finale 11:00 Disc 2 total time: 78:30 Total score presentation time: 2:37:00 Disc 3 Additional Music The Rise of Skywalker 4:30 Prologue (Alternate) 2:00 Ren's Entrance 3:30 Falcon Flight (Alternate #1) 2:30 Falcon Flight (Alternate #2) 2:30 Rey’s Training (Alternate) 2:30 Tell Me What They Are (Alternate) 2:00 Somehow, Palpatine Returned (Alternate) 2:00 Quicksand (Alternate) 0:30 The Old Death Star (Alternate Segment) 1:30 Healing Wounds (Alternate) 3:00 Destiny of a Jedi (Alternate Segment) 1:30 The Battle of the Resistance (Alternate) 3:00 Approaching the Throne (Alternate) 4:00 Make The Sacrifice (Alternate) 4:00 The Last Fight (Alternate) 2:00 The Emperor's Attack (Alternate) 4:00 Lando Returns (Alternate) 2:00 The Force Is With You (Alternate) 4:00 Rey and Ben 3:30 Farewell (Alternate) 5:00 A New Home (Alternate) 2:00 Finale (Alternate) 10:30 Disc 3 total time: 78:30 3-CD total time: 3:52:30
  3. Here's a breakdown if you're interested. I've done these for TLJ and TROS as well. Disc 1 Film Score Presentation Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village** 12:14 [1M1, 1M1A v3, 1M2A, 1M2B, 1M3C, 1M3D, 1M3BR, 1M4R, 1M4D] The Scavenger 3:48 [1M5 Alt 2A Insert, 1M6 Alt R, 1M7 Flute Version] Rey Meets BB-8** 2:02 [2M11 R Alt, 2M11] Poe Under Torture* 1:17 [2M12] The Droid is Not for Sale* 1:06 [2M13R] I Can Fly Anything (Film Version)** 4:59 [2M14R v2 Alt Intro, 2M14R, 2M15R, 2M15R Insert] Finn’s Trek* 1:35 [2M17AR] That Girl With the Staff 1:46 [2M18A] Follow Me and The Falcon 6:48 [2M18B, 2M18CR, 2M18C Insert II, 3M20R] What’s Your Name / Kylo and His Saber 1:44 [3M21R, 3M22R] No, No…No!* 1:22 [3M23R] Hiding Under the Grate** / You’re Han Solo?** 3:53 [3M24R, 3M26R] The Rathtars! (Extended Version)** 8:03 [3M27, 3M28, 3M28AR] Leia, C3PO and R2 1:02 [3M29R] Snoke** 2:08 [4M30A, 8M78] The Map Scene* 1:26 [4M31RR] Arrival at Takodana / You Got A Name 2:01 [4M32R, 4M33R, 4M33R Insert] I’ve Found the Droid / Talking With Grandfather* 1:36 [4M37, 4M31A] Maz’s Counsel 1:22 [4M35R] Finn’s Confession 1:06 [4M36R] Rey’s Vision* 2:58 [4M38R, 4M38AR] I Have To Get Back / The Beam Is Released* 2:54 [4M39R, 5M40] The Starkiller 1:50 [8M81] Disc 1 Total: 72:59 Disc 2 Film Score Presentation (Continued) Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle** / Finn Fights The Trooper* 3:18 [5M43R Fix, 5M43A, 5M44, 5M45R] The Resistance Arrives* 1:35 [5M47 v2] The Abduction 2:24 [5M46R, 5M48, 5M49R] Han and Leia / Finn and Poe** 5:35 [6M50R, 6M51R] Parental Discussion [6M52, 6M53] 2:10 Don’t Be Afraid* 3:13 [6M53A, 6M54R] Bring Her To Me / You Will Remove These Restraints* 2:26 [6M54A New, 6M54B] Council Meeting* / Preparing for the Mission* 2:59 [6M55R, 6M56R Ext] Kylo’s Rage* 1:02 [6M56B R v1] To Lightspeed* / Ice Landing* 2:11 [6M56C, 6M56D] Kylo in the Falcon* / Rey on the Wall* 2:34 [6M56E, 6M56F, 6M57R, 6M57R Alt Ending] The Bombing Run* / Hug Later* 2:38 [6M58, 7M60] I Can Get Us In* 2:17 [7M61, 7M62] On the Inside 2:20 [7M62A w/ insert] Torn Apart (Extended Version)** 5:19 [7M65B, 7M65C, 7M65, 7M66] The Ways of the Force (Extended Version)** 6:49 [7M67R, 7M67B F, 8M80, 7M67C, 7M67A] Farewell and the Trip (Extended Version)** 5:58 [7M68A, 7M68, 8M72, 8M73] The Jedi Steps and Finale (Film Version) 9:58 [8M74, Finale (11/11/15)] Disc 2 Score: 65:41 Total Score Time: 2:18:40 Additional Music Scherzo for X-Wings 2:35 Rey’s Theme 3:11 March of the Resistance 2:34 Disc 2 Total: 74:01 Disc 3 Additional Music (Continued) Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village (Alternate) 12:22 [1M1, 1M2R New Ending, 1M3AR, 1M3BR, 1M4R, 1M4A, 1M4B] Starry Night 3:32 [1M1A Free Version, 1M1A v2, 1M1A] The Scavenger (Alternate) 3:46 [1M5 Alt 2, 1M6R Alt, 1M7] Rey Meets BB-8 (Alternate) 0:58 [2M11R Alt] I Can Fly Anything 4:16 [2M14R, 2M15R] BB-8 and Rey Continued 0:37 [2M12A] Follow Me (Alternate) 1:48 [3M20R] Snoke (Alternate) 2:32 [4M30] You Got A Name? 1:16 (Alternate) [4M33R] Talking With Grandfather (Alternate) 1:34 [2M17R] Leia's Condolence Speech 0:55 [5M41] Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (Alternate) 4:12 [5M34R, 5M44 Alt Intro v1, 5M44, 5M45R, 5M45R Alt Ending] The Abduction (Alternate) 2:23 [5M46R, 5M48, 5M49A] Han and Leia (Alternate) [6M50R v2] 1:12 The Bombing Run (Film Version) 2:08 [6M56C, 6M58] On the Inside (Alternate) [7M62A, no insert] 2:20 Torn Apart (Alternate) 4:02 [7M65, 7M65 Insert, 7M65A] It Is You 2:23 [7M67B, 7M67R, 8M80, 8M80A] The Ways of the Force (Alternate) 4:58 [7M67] The Journey Home 2:05 [7M68] The Jedi Steps And Finale (Alternate) 8:52 [8M74 Alt, 8M74A, End Credits (9/23/15), Finale Tag] Teaser 1:30 Trailer #1 2:00 Trailer #2 2:00
  4. In my theoretical version, 1M4A Introductions is part of the alternate track, and 'Starry Night' is a mini-suite of all the other versions. I guess I didn't account for all three possible endings of 1M4R The Arrival of Kylo Ren: original, 1M4B, and 1M4D.
  5. You should be able to fit TFA on 3 discs. I roughly timed it out: Disc 1 Film Score Presentation Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village (Extended Version) 8:27 The Arrival of Kylo Ren 3:47 The Scavenger 3:48 Rey Meets BB-8 2:02 Poe Under Torture 1:17 The Droid Is Not For Sale* 1:06 I Can Fly Anything (Extended Version) 4:59 Finn’s Trek* 1:35 That Girl With the Staff 1:46 Follow Me and The Falcon 6:48 What’s Your Name 1:44 No, No…No!* 1:22 You’re Han Solo?** 3:53 The Rathtars! (Extended Version)** 8:03 Leia, C3PO and R2** 1:02 Snoke** 2:08 The Map Scene* 1:26 Arrival at Takodana / You Got A Name 2:01 I’ve Found the Droid / Talking With Grandfather* 1:36 Maz’s Counsel (Film Version) 1:22 Finn’s Confession 1:06 Rey’s Vision* 2:58 I Have To Get Back / The Beam Is Released* 2:54 The Starkiller 1:50 Disc 1 Total: 72:59 Disc 2 Film Score Presentation (Continued) Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (Extended Version)** 6:22 The Resistance Arrives* 1:35 The Abduction 2:24 Han and Leia (Extended Version)** 5:35 Parental Discussion 2:10 Don’t Be Afraid* 3:13 Bring Her To Me / You Will Remove These Restraints* 2:26 Council Meeting* / Preparing for the Mission* 2:59 Kylo’s Rage* 1:02 To Lightspeed* / Ice Landing* 2:11 Kylo in the Falcon* / Rey on the Wall* 2:34 The Bombing Run* / Hug Later* 2:38 I Can Get Us In* 2:17 On the Inside 2:20 Torn Apart (Extended Version)** 5:19 The Ways of the Force (Extended Version)** 6:49 Farewell and the Trip (Extended Version) 5:58 The Jedi Steps and Finale 9:58 Disc 2 Score: 65:41 Total Score Time: 2:18:55 Additional Music Scherzo for X-Wings 2:35 Rey’s Theme 3:11 March of the Resistance 2:34 Disc 2 Total: 74:01 Disc 3 Additional Music (Continued) Attack on the Jakku Village (Alternate)** 10:22 Starry Night** 3:32 The Scavenger (Alternate)** 3:46 Rey Meets BB-8 (Alternate)* 0:58 I Can Fly Anything 4:16** (Alternate) BB-8 and Rey Continued* 0:37 Follow Me (Alternate) 1:48 Snoke (Alternate)* 2:32 You Got A Name?* 1:16 (Alternate) Talking With Grandfather (Alternate)* 1:34 The Starkiller (Alternate)* 0:53 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (Alternate)** 4:12 The Abduction (Alternate) 2:23 Han and Leia (Alternate) 1:12 The Bombing Run (Film Version)* 2:08 Torn Apart (Alternate) 4:02 It Is You** 2:23 The Ways of the Force (Alternate)* 4:58 The Journey Home** 2:05 The Jedi Steps And Finale (Alternate)** 8:52 Teaser* 1:30 Trailer #1* 2:00 Trailer #2* 2:00 Disc 3 Total: 69:21 Three-disc Total: 3:36:21 *Previously unreleased **Contains previously unreleased material
  6. This four-note motif coincides with Kylo’s first appearance and recurs four times. I’m thinking it’s his first stab at a Kylo theme:
  7. That's what I was thinking, too, but GEMA has entries for both a "Young Indy - Insert" and "Young Indy - Sweetener". So, I wonder if that section with the loop was actually freshly recorded, rather than edited.
  8. Nah, I believe their instrumentation is identical, the same as in the first published arrangement of Cantina Band: 1 B-flat Soprano Sax 2 E-flat Alto Saxes 1 B-flat Clarinet 1 Trumpet Synth Bass Piano Steel Drums Drum Set Percussion
  9. That’s how JW spelled it. See also: “Darth Vadar”.
  10. Ok: we know ‘Is It Bird’ was 6M3 Old and became 7M1 New. The Destruction of Alderon is 6M5 New, so must have been 6M2 Old. Why isn’t it reasonable to infer Blasting Away is likely 6M1 Old and 6M4 New? What’s puzzling about the old and new numbering is they make it seem the film became longer, which is the opposite I would have expected given the removal of the Biggs and Anchorhead scenes, the original Jabba scene, etc.
  11. It’s 6M1 in the old numbering, but should be 6M4 New, because ‘The Destruction of Alderon’ is 6M5 New.
  12. That would fix the old numbering, but still leave 6M2 unaccounted for in the new numbering.
  13. Hmm, there’s an odd gap before Cantina Band in both the old and new numbering: Old 4M3 The Princess Reappears 4M4 A Home Destroyed 5M1 A Hive of Villainy 5M2 ?? 5M3/5M3A Cantina Band 5M4 Cantina Band 2 5M5 ?? 5M6 Inner City 6M1 Blasting Away 6M2 The Destruction of Alderon New 4M4R A Home Destroyed Pt. I 5M1 A Home Destroyed Pt. II 5M2 A Hive Of Villainy 5M3 ?? 5M4/6M1 Cantina Band 6M2 Cantina Band 2 6M3 Inner City 6M4 Blasting Away 6M5 The Destruction of Alderon
  14. Ok, so technically, that's a sweetener rather than an insert, since it plays on top of the original cue rather than entirely replacing a section of it.
  15. Why not just a standard re-recording like Intrada, Tadlow, etc. have issued? The LTP would have the cuts made for the film and generally omit cues dropped from the film (though occasionally some music is restored for LTPs).
  16. I'd heard of this alternate ending before, but never actually gotten to hear it until now! Thank you, @Jay.
  17. Update: thanks to everyone who downloaded Clix Converter! It’s my first personal app to make it to the top charts, at #177 for paid music apps:
  18. If you’ll forgive a tiny bit of shameless self-promotion, I wanted to let the film composers here know about my new iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch app to easily convert clix to beats-per-minute: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clix-converter/id6446604507 IMG_0892.MOV
  19. @Holko Excellent work once again! I love seeing these and getting a bit of insight into how the decision to drop or replace cues is made.
  20. No fist fight, but Pat Roach was nearly in The Last Crusade, in a deleted scene: http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/deleted_scenes.php
  21. Have all the non-JW source cues in Last Crusade been noted anywhere? If not, here they are courtesy of the SABAM repertoire database:
  22. They still keep the physical parts for the sake of the markings or corrections players may have written in.
  23. I think the “machine” is literally a new piece of equipment, like a printer, they’re going to be using at JKMS. They’ve shown the trunks the sheet music is transported in before, and they look like this:
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