phbart

Well, pre-announces actually:
 
 
COMING SOON
LIMITED EDITION (3-CD SET)

The Hook sessions has been out for many years prior to the LLL release. But it sounds atrocious, just like Last Crusade bootleg.
 
Anyway, LLL has kept the book opened for 3 years straight (2016 with JP, 2017 with ET and CE3K and this year, the one officialy regarded as one for the books). I'm sure they'll keep it opened.

Allow me to bump this thread, but not because of the music. By coincidence, I found out today that the very first home video release of Jaws, and the very first Discovision ever (later renamed to Laserdisc) was released exactly 40 years ago today, on December 11th 1978. When I look at it, it's really intriguing to think that the CD was yet to be invented, VHS and Betamax were barely on the market, and yet there it was, an optical disc read by a laser beam. It's interesting to hold in my hands such an advanced peace of technology that is even older than I am, and yet its basic characteristics are still used today in storare mediums. Happy 40th anniversary, you shinny "little" discs. 😁🎂
 

Allow me to bump this thread, but not because of the music. By coincidence, I found out today that the very first home video release of Jaws, and the very first Discovision ever (later renamed to Laserdisc) was released exactly 40 years ago today, on December 11th 1978. When I look at it, it's really intriguing to think that the CD was yet to be invented, VHS and Betamax were barely on the market, and yet there it was, an optical disc read by a laser beam. It's interesting to hold in my hands such an advanced peace of technology that is even older than I am, and yet its basic characteristics are still used today in storare mediums. Happy 40th anniversary, you shinny "little" discs. 😁🎂
 

I tried this...

Allow me to bump this thread, but not because of the music. By coincidence, I found out today that the very first home video release of Jaws, and the very first Discovision ever (later renamed to Laserdisc) was released exactly 40 years ago today, on December 11th 1978. When I look at it, it's really intriguing to think that the CD was yet to be invented, VHS and Betamax were barely on the market, and yet there it was, an optical disc read by a laser beam. It's interesting to hold in my hands such an advanced peace of technology that is even older than I am, and yet its basic characteristics are still used today in storare mediums. Happy 40th anniversary, you shinny "little" discs. 😁🎂
 

I tried this...

Like this?

Nice ceiling fan!

Believe you me, @phbart, it was. When I saw SUPERMAN, for the first time, on its opening weekend, in London, it was the most exhilarating film I'd ever seen. I loved it then, and I love it now.

Amen! I too saw the 40th anniversary showing. I will never forget seeing it on the big screen. I saw the 30th anniversary screening of Jaws, the 40th anniversary screening of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the 35th anniversary screening of E.T., the 20th anniversary 3D release of Jurassic Park (and 25th anniversary screening), and I will be seeing the 25th anniversary screening of Schindler's List. It is an entire experience seeing these on the big screen. I'll never forget it.

1968 - Heidi
My Google Doc 1969 - The Reivers
JWFan thread discussing the complete cue list 1969 - Goodbye, Mr. Chips
Mike Matessino text interview by Neil Bulk on the FSM Edition, March 2006 (1) Mike Matessino text interview by Neil Bulk on the FSM Edition, March 2006 (2) 1972 - The Cowboys
Score Restore videos by Holko 1972 - The Poseidon Adventure
Mike Matessino audio interview by Maurizio Cashetto and Tim Burden on the La-La Land edition, December 2019 1974 - The Sugarland Express
My Google Doc 1974 - Earthquake
Mike Matessino audio interview by Maurizio Cashetto and Tim Burden on the La-La Land edition, December 2019 1974 - The Towering Inferno
My Google Doc Mike Matessino audio interview by Maurizio Cashetto and Tim Burden on the La-La Land edition, December 2019 1975 - Jaws
My Google Doc Tim Burden and John Takis discuss Jaws (July, 2012)
Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 40th Anniversary Intrada Edition, November 2015 JWFan thread discussing the complete cue list Music synced to picture by Disco Stu 1977 - Star Wars
My Google Doc Unused music restored to picture by Faleel 1977 - Close Encounters of the Third Kind
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me, November 2017 (includes brief Close Encounters discussion) Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden for Cinematic Sound Radio on the 40th Anniversary La-La Land Edition, February 2018 Music synced to picture by Disco Stu 1978 - The Fury
Tim Burden and John Takis discuss The Fury (March 2013) 1978 - Jaws 2
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me on the Intrada Expanded Edition, November 2015 1978 - Superman: The Movie
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by Neil Bulk on the FSM Blue Box, March 2008 Mike Matessino audio interview by Soundcheck, June 2013 Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden for Cinematic Sound Radio, February 2018 (Includes brief Superman discussion) Mike Matessino audio interview by Maurizio Caschetto and Tim Burden on the 40th Anniversary La-La Land edition, February 2019 (part 1) Mike Matessino audio interview by Maurizio Caschetto and Tim Burden on the 40th Anniversary La-La Land edition, February 2019 (part 2) Mike Matessino text interview by Todd Gilchrist for Nerdist, June 2019 Score Restore videos by Faleel 1979 - Dracula
My Google Doc Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden on the Varese Deluxe Edition, November 2018 Score restore videos by Holko 1979 - 1941
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 2011 La-La Land Expanded Edition, September 2011 1980 - The Empire Strikes Back
JWFan thread discussing the complete cue list Unused music restored to picture by Faleel 1981 - Raiders of the Lost Ark
A VERY OLD Google Doc Unused music restored to picture by Faleel 1982 - E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 35th Anniversary Edition by La-la Land Records, November 2017 Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden for Cinematic Sound Radio on the 35th Anniversary Edition by La-la Land Records, February 2018 Music synced to picture by Disco Stu 1983 - Return of the Jedi
My Google Doc Unused music restored to picture by Faleel 1984 - Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
A VERY OLD Google Doc Unused music restored to picture by Faleel 1984 - The River
My Google Doc Audio Interview by Maurizio Caschetto and Tim Burden, May 2020 Score restore videos by Disco Stu 1986 - SpaceCamp
My Google Doc 1987 - Empire of the Sun
My Google Doc Mike Matessino JWFan article on the 2014 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition (1) Mike Matessino JWFan article on the 2014 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition (2) Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden, June 2014 Score restore videos by Holko 1989 - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
A VERY OLD Google Doc 1989 - Born on the Fourth of July
My Google Doc 1990 - Stanley & Iris
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 2017 Varese Deluxe Edition, November 2017 1990 - Home Alone
Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 2015 25th Anniversary Edition by La-La Land Records, November 2015 Score Restore videos by Holko 1991 - Hook
My Google Doc Didier C. Deutsch text interview by me on the 2012 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition, March 2012 Didier C. Deutsch text interview by Olivier Soude on the 2012 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition, March 2012 Tim Burden interviews MV Gerhard and Matt Verboys on the LLL edition (March 2012) JWFan thread discussing the complete cue list 1992 - Far and Away
My Google Doc Audio Interview by Maurizio Caschetto and Tim Burden, May 2020 1992 - Home Alone 2: Lost In New York
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by 'Kevin McCallister' on the Varese Deluxe Edition, February 2003 Score Restore videos by Holko 1993 - Jurassic Park
My Google Doc Mike Matessino audio interview by The Jurassic Park Podcast on the 2016 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition, December 2016 Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 2016 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition, November 2017 Music synced to picture by Mr. Breathmask JWFan thread discussing the complete cue list 1993 - Schindler's List
My Google Doc 1997 - The Lost World: Jurassic Park
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 2016 La-La Land Expanded Edition, November 2017 Music restored to picture by Mr. Breathmask JWFan thread discussing the complete cue list 1997 - Rosewood
My Google Doc 2001 - A.I. Artificial Intelligence
My Google Doc Mike Matessino text interview by me on the 2015 La-La Land Records Expanded Edition, June 2015 Score Restore videos by Holko 2001 - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
My Google Doc Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden on on the La-La Land edition, November 2018 Score restore videos by Holko 2002 - Attack of the Clones
My Google Doc 2002 - Minority Report
My Google Doc Score restore videos by Chewy 2002 - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
My Google Doc Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden on on the La-La Land edition, December 2018 Score restore videos by Holko 2004 - Harry Potter and the Prisoner Of Azkaban
My Google Do Mike Matessino audio interview by Tim Burden on on the La-La Land edition, December 2018 Score restore videos by ragoz350 2004 - The Terminal
My Google Doc 2005 - War of the Worlds
My Google Doc 2005 - Memoirs of a Geisha
My Google Doc 2008 - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
My Google Doc 2011 - War Horse
My Google Doc 2012 - Lincoln
My Google Doc 2013 - The Book Thief
My Google Doc 2015 - Star Wars: The Force Awakens
My Google Doc 2017 - The Post
My Google Doc Score restore videos by Disco Stu 2019 - Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
My Google Doc Miscellanea
Future Proofing The Music of John Williams - Tim Burden interviews Mike Matessino (June 2018)

I guess the "year for the books" now finally makes justice. I hope 2019 will be as well. 🤩

Maybe Disney will be up their neck with their new streaming service, which is due in 2019, and say "Ahh, we don't have time for these old scores. Let's LLL take care of them and see the big $$$ from those fans at that forum".

Harry Potter's Botanicus?

Harry Potter's Botanicus?

I guess the "year for the books" now finally makes justice. I hope 2019 will be as well. 🤩

Williams can make music from trash

And what a compost it is!
 
Karol

There was a bootleg in the early 2000's floating around, for which I had a crappy 160kbps mp3 copy of it, and it was obviously sourced from a vinyl, but nowhere near as clean as the Prometheus release. I think that if it's the case of a master tape existing and, even better, being found, something would have happened by now, as the rights were renewed in 2012 by BSX but it sounds exactly the same as the 2007 Prometheus release. No CD of this 2012 version was released, only digital.
 
 
 

According to Chris Malone:
 
SW 93 Anthology: "For the first time Star Wars utilised the actual film mixes, prepared by Eric Tomlinson, sourced from two-track tapes that contained each take recorded for every cue"
**SW 97 SE: "At this time the original, unedited three-track 35mm magnetic film recordings of Star Wars were located as well as the 16-track master session tapes." "The 16-track tapes were of limited value as the sections that corresponded to the preferential takes were edited out and presumably stored on another set of reels that are now considered misplaced."
 
ESB 93 Anthology: "The Empire Strikes Back was largely mastered from four-track ¼” tape copies comprising the edited film mix as three channels of music with one track being a pilot tone for film synchronisation. These tapes were purportedly in poor condition – probably suffering from lubricant failure therefore making baking an inappropriate treatment – and were not located until near completion of the project." "To make matters worse, the Empire tapes were incomplete and PolyGram was unwilling to locate the original LP album tapes. This necessitated the use of 35mm magnetic film recordings, edited for assimilation with the picture, together with several cues lifted directly from the original PolyGram CD"
ESB 97 SE: "For The Empire Strikes Back, five of the pre-edited 24- track backup rolls were remixed by Brian Risner at the Fox Zanuck Theatre in 1996. Ostensibly, these tapes contained the cues that appeared on the original double LP album." "For all other cues, the digital transfers made by Bill Wolford in 1993 appear to have been utilised."
 
RoTJ 93 Anthology: "The production team made extensive use of two-track tapes containing the edited film mixes despite three-track tapes also being available at the time. A number of cues were also lifted directly from the original PolyGram CD because they could not be located on other available sources."
RoTJ 97 SE: "A three-track reduction of the original preedited Abbey Road tapes was used to prepare the set..."
 
 
**I DO remember reading at FSM that the complete 16 track tape of SW containing the correct takes were located. I'll try to find the post. I believe it was a post about an ebay auction of a set of SW and ESB master tapes...
 
Edit: here it is, from Lukas Kendall himself: "I was at a Star Wars-related convention in L.A. maybe 6-8 years ago where Dan Melson had a booth trying to sell these tapes he got from the John Neal estate—he's been trying to unload them for years. He has every right to own and sell the master tapes, even though he does not own the intellectual property recorded ONTO the tapes. He always asked a fortune and, not surprisingly, people were not interested, seeing as how the tapes are worthless except for the "cool factor." He had a lot of rock stuff too. Of the film music, the tapes are basically dub-downs of little importance except for the Star Wars 2" 16-track masters which contain the edited "selects" Williams and Ken Wannberg chose—I remember when they did the Star Wars Special Edition CDs, they had the 16-track masters, but all of these master takes from the original album had been snipped out! So that's where they went, making those 16-tracks are highly important. Now, the good news: at that Star Wars con was Matthew Wood, a sound editor for Lucasfilm (voice of General Grievous, I think?) and he and I were like, WTF?! I am quite sure he subsequently coordinated to have the 16-tracks digitized at Lucasfilm (in exchange for a tour or something for Melson)...whatever. I think it's all OK, so people should RELAX." (http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=3&threadID=101432&archive=0)

I want the original engineer's mix, the Eric Tomlinson mixes.
 
Yes, the document from Chris Malone website does mention that 3 track and 2 track tapes were available for the 1993 Anthology release. For the 1997 SE they went for the 3 track ones, and he believes that it sounds bad because the tapes weren't handled properly.
 
His words: "Almost immediately following release of the 2CD Special Edition to Return of the Jedi, the recording was criticised for possessing a soft and muffled sound. A three-track reduction of the original preedited Abbey Road tapes was used to prepare the set, which was beautifully assembled by Michael Matessino. Unfortunately, this is one of the few positive comments that can be made about the presentation. Disappointingly, the upper highs have been significantly attenuated. Signal above 10 KHz is virtually non-existent and most certainly rarely extends beyond 14 KHz. It would seem that no additional EQ, however radical, can cajole these frequencies satisfactorily. There is also an inconsistent application of EQ from disc one to disc two with the former generally brighter compared with the latter. The reason for the conspicuous absence of upper highs – and the hiss that should be present with analog recording – could be shared between poor alignment of the machine used to reproduce the source tapes and incorrect calibration of the requisite Dolby A decoder. More likely, the extensive use of digital noise reduction during mastering is the culprit. The noise reduction has vacuumed up the ambience of the original recording leaving a false, barren wasteland in its place. As a whole the music is congested and closed-in, lacking the aliveness of earlier releases."

Fixed.

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