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    That_Bloke reacted to Jay in MINORITY REPORT- 2CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records now available   
    For me honestly, these new expansions of scores always makes me re-evaluate them, and I always end up loving the scores more than I did before.  As much as I've loved JW's music most of my life, there's still a bunch of his older works that I, for whatever reason, didn't ever make part of my recurring listening routine.  But then the expansions came out, for scores like The Cowboys, Stanley & Iris, Dracula... and now they are absolutely part of my regular listening rotation, and I can't believe I didn't listen to them more before.

    Minority Report falls into the same category!  I actually listened to that OST a lot more than the other 3 I mentioned, mostly because it came out when I was going to movies and listening to new scores, not some older score from before I was born like the others.  But after an initial burst of excitement, I feel off.  Then the session leak came out, which re-interested me again for a while... but then I fell off again.  But now with finally a proper presentation in properly mastered sound, I finally *get* the score top to bottom, and listen to it regularly.
     
    Seeing the film again helped a lot, as I had forgotten most details about it after I initially saw it.  Seeing the emotions on-screen of Anderton and his wife grieving over the loss of Sean and how that experience ties into the entire story being told really help gel the whole score together, at least for me.
     
    It's also impressive to me that JW did this directly after Attack of the Clones and just before Harry Potter 2 and Catch Me If You Can.  What a fertile year!
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    That_Bloke reacted to Disco Stu in Black Friday 2019 JW prediction poll   
    Playing with us like a cat plays with a mouse!
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    That_Bloke reacted to Jay in MINORITY REPORT- 2CD Expanded Edition from La-La Land Records now available   
    Blame me for any typos in the booklet!
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    That_Bloke reacted to Not Mr. Big in Williams cues that will make for great IN MEMORIAM cues at the Oscars   
    It was in the 2013 Seth McFarlane Oscars when Amour won best Foreign Feature
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJlw27Fx11E
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    That_Bloke reacted to Tydirium in "Leak" from The Rise of Skywalker ST?   
    This sounds nothing like Williams...
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    That_Bloke reacted to Arpy in The Infamous Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition   
    I say it's incredibly lucky we got anything like this, and I'd rather have an official iso-like album than have the pittance we normally get. 
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    That_Bloke reacted to Manakin Skywalker in The Infamous Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition   
    Most of us hate it because we're completionists. This album only contains basically an isolated score of the film, therefore there is a TON of missing music (unused material, alternate takes, etc.) It was a rather lazy release by Sony basically to get people to stop making fan-made bootlegs, which obviously had the exact opposite effect.
     
    I mean, it's a great resource for if you're trying to make your own edit, but as a standalone it's a disappointing release.
     
    Another issue I forgot about is that it was advertised as containing "every note composed for the film", which is obviously an outright lie.
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    That_Bloke got a reaction from rpvee in The Infamous Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition   
    One of the problems was the way it was marketed and promoted, which created false expectations in the buyers.
     
    I think if Sony had sold it as nothing more than "the score as heard in the film" there would have been less outrage. But the wording and marketing implied we'd also get unreleased stuff like music for the film before it was re-edited. There was good stuff  left on the editing floor and we knew about it, and thought we'd be getting it based on marketing.
     
    I don't mind the 2CD release - once I accepted it for what it is and not for what it was marketed to be.
     
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    That_Bloke got a reaction from Ricard in The Infamous Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition   
    One of the problems was the way it was marketed and promoted, which created false expectations in the buyers.
     
    I think if Sony had sold it as nothing more than "the score as heard in the film" there would have been less outrage. But the wording and marketing implied we'd also get unreleased stuff like music for the film before it was re-edited. There was good stuff  left on the editing floor and we knew about it, and thought we'd be getting it based on marketing.
     
    I don't mind the 2CD release - once I accepted it for what it is and not for what it was marketed to be.
     
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    That_Bloke reacted to GRIGA01 in JW playing Luke & Leia on Piano   
    Hey guys,
     
    Just found this this little gem of John playing the Luke and Leia theme after what sounds like an interview in the 80s. Not sure if it’s been posted before but if not then I hope you enjoy  
     
     
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    That_Bloke reacted to Hedji in Mike Matessino's Indiana Jones   
    The Rope Bridge, while musically simple, is too important dramatically to be omitted.
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    That_Bloke reacted to Jay in Mike Matessino's Indiana Jones   
    No reason he should approach them differently than any other score 
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    That_Bloke reacted to Thor in John Williams: The Year 1956   
    1956 was an important year for Williams. He moved back to LA (from New York) to begin his Hollywood career. Yet I'm not sure we have all the information on his work in this particular year. Could we chart it together?
    Here's what I know so far:
    1. CAROUSEL -- he did some uncredited arrangements on Alfred Newman's score. This is probably the very first thing he did after moving back, as the film premiered February 16th, so it must have been early January or something. It was fiancée Ruick's involvement that got him on the scoring stage to meet the great maestro.
    2. THE JOHNNY EVER GREENS PLAYED BY RUSS GARCIA -- this Garcia jazz album was released in 1956, although no recording dates are given. Williams played piano.
    3. THE JOHN TOWNER TOUCH -- while the album itself was released in 1957, the tracks were recorded in October-1956 at Radio Recorders in LA. It features "Hello", Williams' first-ever recorded original composition.
    4. MODERN JAZZ GALLERY -- this was a 2LP compilation of various west coast jazz artists. Williams is featured as pianist on several tracks and also has an original composition, "Aunt Orsavella" -- his second to be recorded. The album was released in February-1957, but recorded in November-1956.
    (5. HARRY BELAFONTE - CALYPSO -- Album was released in 1956, but recorded in New York in 1955. Williams allegedly played piano on some of the tracks while he studied there, but is not credited in the sleeve notes. I've put it in parenthesis since it's really a 1955 effort).
    (* Also on a personal level: Marriage to Barbara Ruick. No date is given for this)
    What else is there? He gets more busy in 1957, but it's striking that the only film work I've been able to find in 1956 is CAROUSEL. JWFAN lists SOUTH PACIFIC in their 'other works' section, but this film was released in 1958, not 1956.
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    That_Bloke got a reaction from A Ghost From Highwood in Just lucked out on a bunch of RARE original John Williams soundtracks on vinyl- including "Diamond Head"!!   
    Good stuff. When I read the thread title I thought you missed out on buying them, as where I'm from "lucked out" means "bad luck" or "missed opportunity"  
     
    Oh the English language!
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    That_Bloke reacted to Loert in Masked Dissonance in The Music of John Williams   
    There's a fun experiment you can do with this at the piano. Play a major or minor chord in the right hand e.g. C major or C minor. Now, in the left hand, put your hand on a major or minor chord one semitone above and one semitone below the right hand. So, for instance, with C major in the right hand, you place your left hand on B major or Db major. Now pick one of the notes in your two left hand chords. This is now your bass note - play it with the chord in the right hand (so e.g. C major in RH, with D# in the bass from the B major chord). Now do this multiple times for different chords. Voila! You have become John Williams.
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    That_Bloke reacted to Loert in Masked Dissonance in The Music of John Williams   
    It's interesting that you talk about Williams "masking" dissonances, as if Williams was trapped into employing dissonances which he then tried to cover up by choosing the right instruments (probably not what you meant, but it sounds that way!). Of course, the opposite is really true - Williams mixes in the dissonance himself. However, rather than drawing attention on those very dissonances (as, for example, Boulez might...or "concert" JW might) he tends to treat dissonance as something like musical seasoning; to spice up what would otherwise be fairly dull, consonant music. One of the ways he does this is to do what sounds like "covering up" dissonance using the orchestra, which I guess is what you allude to. But, of course, this is just an illusion really. Every note you hear comes from the composer's pen, whether or not in the end they sound as if they are appearing out of nowhere, or as an "accident".
     
    So what is JW's favourite spice? When it comes to brass, It is undeniably the minor 2nd interval between the 7th and 8th degrees of the scale (i.e. B-C in C major). JW would sooner jump off a bridge than not use this dissonance in a fanfare. Listen to the one that plays when Yoda raises the ship in TESB, which is in E major:
     
     
    Now, somebody with an "untrained ear" might be surprised to know that when they are listening to the above, they are also listening to this:
    https://picosong.com/whnva
     
    These are the 7th and 8th degrees of the E major scale: D#-E.
     
    JW uses a lot of this sort of dissonance in the E.T. flying theme (in C major):
     
     
    Listening to this, one might naively think that the accompanying horns at the start are playing simple major chords (C-E-G, or 1st, 3rd and 5th degrees). But in fact, they are playing "add2" chords, i.e. chords with the 2nd degree added (D), so there is a dissonance between the C-D and the D-E. Later on, JW employs his beloved 7th-8th dissonance, at 0:20 (F#-G) and 0:25 (G-Ab). These dissonances on their own sound like they belong to a horror movie, not a feel-good family movie (though I grant that E.T. does contain some horrifying bits...). But when played by the brass in a certain range, these dissonances take on more of a "colouring" function, and you might miss these dissonances if you don't pay attention. However, take away these dissonances, and you take away an integral part of the whole. This is what I mean by JW using dissonances as "seasoning".
     
    Now for something entirely different. Listen to the prologue music of HP1, when Dumbledore does...whatever he does:
     
     
    Listen to that last chord at 1:15. Can you hear "it"? I made a mockup of this portion some years ago, where "it"'s clearer; listen to the high register from 0:17:
    https://picosong.com/whnWd
     
    Williams here is using the winds to apply a purely "colouristic" effect to the brass chord in the foreground.
    This is what the wind chord sounds like on the piano:
    https://picosong.com/whnvw
     
    This is what the brass chord sounds like on the piano:
    https://picosong.com/whnv3
     
    By the way, Williams here is essentially recycling a technique he used in another film, TPM, where he used a similar wind chord. However, that time he used it in a much more dramatic manner, less as a purely colouristic effect (listen to the chord at 3:28 and pay attention to the high register):
     
     
    Finally, I want to go off the track a bit (though I hope it's still relevant) and close with some music from another composer who was a master at "masking" dissonances via orchestration, a composer who greatly influenced Williams and other Hollywood composers - namely, Korngold. His opera "Das Wunder der Heliane" closes with the two lovers making their way into heaven through the pearly gates, being welcomed by the sound of singing angels. But if you listen to it, there's a distinctly bittersweet tone coming from the orchestra:
     
     
    It's almost like the angels merely represent a "sheen" of something that is filled with sadness and sorrow. The reason is that the orchestral accompaniment is in fact full of dissonances - try playing some of those chords which fall on the downbeat. There are instances earlier in the opera where Korngold plays a major chord on top of a minor chord, though it's barely audible the way he orchestrates it.
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    That_Bloke reacted to Not Mr. Big in I Found It: Fanfare for Dukakis   
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4453714/john-williams-fanfare-michael-dukakis
     
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    That_Bloke reacted to Disco Stu in The Rise of Skywalker score begins recording in June 2019   
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    That_Bloke reacted to Fal J. M. Skywalker in The Rise of Skywalker score begins recording in June 2019   
    Star Wars has already been recorded since 1977
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    That_Bloke got a reaction from bollemanneke in Just lucked out on a bunch of RARE original John Williams soundtracks on vinyl- including "Diamond Head"!!   
    Good stuff. When I read the thread title I thought you missed out on buying them, as where I'm from "lucked out" means "bad luck" or "missed opportunity"  
     
    Oh the English language!
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    That_Bloke reacted to BrotherSound in Bachelor Flat (1962) Complete Cue List   
    Haven't seen any complete cue lists for anything from the Johnny Williams days before, so I thought this might be interesting to share:
     
    Bachelor Flat (1962)

    Music Composed by Johnny Williams
    Orchestrated by Robert Franklyn
     
    R1P1        Reggie in the Colonies
    R1P2        Main Title
    R1P3        Professor's Pad
    R1P3A       Like This Olde Man
    R1P4        Libby Comes Home
    R1P4A       Libby Hides
    R2P1        Professor Discovers Libby
    R2P2/R3P1   Gladys Visits the Prof.
    R4P1        Mama in Paris
    R4P2        Home Cookin
    R4P3        Bras and Panties
    R5P1        Libby Da Lip
    R5P2/R6P1   Poor Mike
    R6P2        Short Trip
    R6P3        The Professor's Dream
    R7P1/R7P1A  Attic Antics
    R7P2/R8P1   Liz's Biz
    R8P2        Artificial Respiration
    R8P3        Mambone
    R8P4        Mambone Reprise
    R9P1        Effects of Alcohol
    R9P2        No More Inhibitions
    R9P3/R10P1  Galloping Gladys
    R10P1A      The Shy Englishman
    R10P2       The Reunion
    R10P3       End Title
    R10P4       Cast Credits
    n/a         Trailer
     
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    That_Bloke reacted to tintacle in STAR WARS Custom Covers thread   
    Two new sets for the Original Trilogy,
     
    First set is using the gorgeous artwork by Nicolas Alejandro Barbera:



     
    Second set uses the fantastically simply art of Adam Faniszlo:



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    That_Bloke reacted to Not Mr. Big in Petiton: Request JW to write Opera   
    A John Williams Opera would be a a truly gay occasion!
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