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  1. The best line heard on TV in our time: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GOOD. :spiny:
  2. Does anyone know where I can get desprite? I looked by depepsi, decoke, dedew, and dedr depepper, but I didn't see it. :spiny:
  3. Possibly, if their visual record is updated. But if it's filed under something like "Generic Species," then it might have collected a lot of dust, since two centuries pass before humans encounter Ferengi again, and for the "official first" time, so it slips their mind. Or, if the conspiracy of which you speak, of the time travelling Borg being repsonsible for the advancement of Starfleet (total utter bull$h!t, but interesting and supported by at least some facts), then it's possible that certain agencies also removed the records of encountering Ferengi from the history books, as well. We'll see. The only way for Enterprise to succeed to at least its third season, the point where TNG, DS9, and to a lesser extent Voyager, all started to really kick into gear, gain a purpose, and get better....the way is to botch the timeline as we know it, play around with and bring in familiar faces...and then claim the temporal cold war "fixes" everything so that conventional Star Trek can occur unhindered. I don't necessarily mean to jump genres, but a similar argument is how Lucas is rewriting the Star Wars history. Certain things that Obi-Wan told Luke in his Tatooine hut have now been reduced to bull$h!t if we look at the current prequels as the only reference, and I don't think Episode III will have time to establish Anakin as "a great pilot" or "a good friend," considering that's the point when his whole life is supposed to go to heck.
  4. Yea, well, I forgot about other countries not seeing the films for a while. That's why there's things like the Internet and peer2peer services. I lost all respect for respecting spoiler privileges when I bought Episode I's soundtrack and found that Qui-Gon had an "honorable death" and a "funeral." To me, Data is still alive and kicking, and finding mouths on Troi's shoulder. And just think how cool it would be if someone had stolen Lore from wherever he ended up, mildly reprogrammed him to think he's an older, dumber android named B-4, and then sold him to Shinzon and his Reman friends? Probably not plausible, since Lore is techncially a bit more advanced than Data since emotions (namely jealousy, rage, and evil ambition) are part of his normal programming, he'd need a lot of work to be made to be simpler than even Data. But we gotta stop talking plausible when it comes to sci-fi.
  5. Hehe, so do I, tharpdevenport, it just seemed that some of your arguments started getting almost silly...but I guess when it comes to Star Trek and time travel, silly is normal. As for that argument, Morn, I've no idea, honestly. The fact they weren't mentioned as Ferengi seems to make it ok, but then again, for a society to be driven by material wealth, even in the 22nd century in Archer's time, it seems that they should've returned in force to offer spacefaring wares for early Starfleet to purchase, making a lot of profit. Perhaps they felt that their encounter with Archer was not at all profitable, or other circumstances kept them out of our corner of the Alpha Quadrant for another two centuries. Remember, too, that the Vikings and quite possibly the Chinese and Polynesians made it to the Americas centuries before the Europeans ever dreamed of sailing west to find India. Did they find great vast lands filled with plentiful resources? Yes. Did they stick around and colonize? No, not for very long. Maybe the Native Americans scared them away, or they didn't like the long distances, or because of the fact their civilization eventually faded. Granted, the Ferengi did not fade, they got stronger over time, but they, like the Vikings, didn't stick around. We can only wonder why. Also, just because the Hansens were deep enough in the Delta Quadrant in the 2250s to get assimilated by the Borg before all other humans we know of (sans V'ger according to Shatner's book), that doesn't mean that there were scores of humans on their tail waiting to colonize the DQ. Humans stayed out of it until the Voyager got punted to the far side and had to work the long field to get home. :cry: I miss football... The Ferengi that Archer ran into could've been exceptions in Ferengi history, or they lost their maps and couldn't find their way back to the near Earth area. The fact that the NX-01 made the trip from Earth to Q'onos (the Klingon Homeworld) in the pilot also disturbed me, since we know later that there's should be a good deal of distance between the two worlds, enough to sustain portions of two distinct empires and a sizeable Neutral Zone, which gets dissolved after Khitomer. It shouldn't be so easy to traverse at max Warp 5. So much for the "disastrous first contact made with the Klingons" of which Picard spoke in the TNG episode First Contact. Sometimes I think I should leave this Message Board and join a Star Trek one, but then I realize that the people who post here are much more eclectic and therefore more interesting than people who post on Trek MB's alone. I raise my beerchug to you!
  6. Releasing information about the movie cannot be considered spoilers for a movie that's been out for two months. Hypothetically, if someone hasn't seen it yet and still doesn't want to know anything about it, like the fact that Data dies or Picard has a clone (both really $h!tty developments in Star Trek), then it's that person's fault. Once a movie is out, it's fair game to talk about freely.
  7. I love the intro montage, too. It's like DS9's, busy. Ever hear Nimoy sing the song about Bilbo Baggins?
  8. I know this doesn't go here, but I've been on a post marathon of sorts this week.........how many posts do I need to be a "regular poster?" Is it based on total number of posts, or frequency of posting?
  9. Awwwww... You're telling me you don't like: It's been a long road getting from there to here It's been a long time but my time is finally near And I will see my dream come alive at last I will touch the sky And they're not gonna hold me down no more No, they're not gonna change my mind 'Cause I've got faith of the heart Goin' where my heart will take me I've got faith to believe I can do anything I've got strenght of the soul And no one's gonna bend or break me I can reach any star I've got faith, I've got faith Faith of the heart (HAHA, I'm sorry, I just had to) I think it grows on you. Granted it's the weakest of all the Star Trek intros, even imagining that you'd have Tenacious D sing the lyrics to the Star Trek TOS intro song (beyond the rim of the starlight....), but I kinda like Faith of the Heart or whatever it's called now as a song. It's got a sentimental lyric I find pretty cool for inspiring stuff. But yes, as Trek, it doesn't fit.
  10. Interesting theories, really. Not impossible, and not totally savorable. Could explain why the Hansens were out there nine years before Q introduced Picard to his future roommates. Again, it just makes Star Trek history a giant loop, which I doubt. No way they'll make the Borg responsible for the Federation, they're not that dumb. And besides, the Vulcans wouldn't scan the poles looking for future spacecraft, there's no logic in that. And once found, they wouldn't keep it from humans since it's on Earth, and they wouldn't know what it is, either. Remember, the Vulcans can't digest time travel any more than the mind meld at this point. Besides, the technology of the NX-01 at this point is well on its way to evolving to the 24th century, without needing help from the Borg at all, just a little more help from the Vulcans. Also, at this point in Enterprise's 22nd century, Zefram Cochrane isn't on Earth, he should be either at or en route to that planet where he's found a century later by Kirk and friends in TOS, while living with The Companion, so Cochrane can't come back to build starships, he did his part a century earlier with Johnathan Archer's daddy. I'll continue to give Enterprise a shot just because it's the best sci-fi on TV, with apologies to Stargate SG-1, which is just getting weird with its X-Files approach to rewriting the history of mankind.
  11. By the way, Annika Hansen is better known as Seven of Nine when she grows up. And boy, does she!
  12. On the contrary. The fact that the film First Contact "screwed with the timeline" by bringing the Borg back to 2061 to try and prevent Zefram Cochrane's historical flight past the Vulcans and into history, and that the Enterprise-E "followed them back and repaired whatever damage they did"....that fact totally allows Enterprise's writers to take advantage of the fact that the Enterprise-E blew up a Borg sphere in Earth orbit in 2061. It is not unreasonable to assume that part of the craft survived the heat of reentry and lay hidden in an obscure corner of the globe for a century before someone found it. I'm sure that had Picard been thinking, he'd have made sure that all the Borg remnants were destroyed before going "back to the future" to the 24th century, but he didn't want the Vulcan ship to detect the Enterprise-E, as that would more immediately ruin the timeline. Don't forget, there's still bits of Sovereign-class deflector dish in orbit at this point. Anyways, because there's only been two TNG movies since First Contact, DS9 was too busy dealing with the Dominion to worry about the Enterprise's romp to the past, and Voyager's time spent out of town (not to mention the fact that Starfleet classified the First Contact incident, so history wouldn't remember LaForge and Riker flying with the farmer from Babe), we haven't had a chance to see what effect that the Borg in the 21st century had. Granted, it's that whole "man goes back in time to become his own grandfather" story all over again, and in 1988 (our TV time), when we first met the Borg, the story that Enterprise is paving had not been written yet, so there were no Borg in the 21st century yet, that didn't happen until 1996's movie set in 2061, but that couldn't happen unless 2061's Borg incursion happened.........ah, the joys of time paradoxes. Annika Hansen and her parents were assimilated in 2356, ten years before Picard's assmilation into Locutus in 2366 (in the third season of TNG), so we can surmise that the first "official" meeting between Starfleet and the Borg occurred in 2365 in the second season episode "Q Who?" We don't know that the Hansen's were headed to the Delta Quadrant to specifically study the Borg (do we? I don't remember the specifics of Voyager that well), they might've just been headed there to explore and run into the Borg on the way, becoming the first humans to be assimilated, and the Borg just never made it a priority to trace the steps of the Raven back to Earth. That whole part doesn't violate Picard's first contact with the Borg thanks to Q, since the Raven didn't get a chance to send a distress call back to the Federation saying "we've met the Borg and we don't stand a chance until later," so the Federation just presumed the Hansens lost, or forgot about them. The thing to remember is that these aren't "real Borg" that we're seeing in Enterprise, they're not from the 21st or 22nd century. They're 24th century Borg that got catapulted back in time by an irate Queen who wanted to assimilate Earth in the past, and survived reentry to Earth, were basically frozen in the stasis of inactivity of the Arctic region, where they wouldn't rot or be eaten or anything, and now that they're found, they can resume their mad craze to assimilate everything. It doesn't violate anything. Technically, the Ferengi in the first season "Acquisition" doesn't violate anything, since they're not officially designated as "Ferengi" in the episode. They'll be remembered by Archer and friends as another random, generic alien race well until Picard makes his famous maneuver against the Ferengi in the first "official" confrontation; no harm done. The Klingons are ok to have in Enterprise, and the appearance of the Romulans, while iffy, does lay the groundwork for the Earth/Romulan War that will initiate the beginning of the Federation.
  13. That makes sense. I just watched the part of The Empire Strikes Back from Luke's X-Wing flying in until Luke pushes Vader off the carbon freezing platform, trying to synchronize it with the Special Edition score bit to "Carbon Freeze/et al," as you guys all described. It lost synch after the giant black hand pulled Han's frozen body out of the chamber, since the Special Edition version of this cue includes an additional 45 seconds or so that wasn't in the movie, but by the time Yoda's Theme was adventurous for the first time with Luke and Boba Fett exchanging blaster fire in the hallway, I was able to get it back in synch until the end of the cue. Since it's fresh in my mind, here's my thoughts: The first battle with Luke and Vader happens at around the 8 minute mark of the "Carbon Freeze/et al" track, from about 7:45 or so to 8:20 or so. It's good that the music was cut from that first duel sequence, since the ambient sounds of the carbon chamber, Vader's taunts, and lack of music work well in the film; that, and the fact that that particular passage of music is mostly dark chords and what I presume to be a variant of Boba Fett's theme (|; daa, diddly-diddly-diddly duhn daa, daa, diddy-diddly-diddly duhn duh-dee, duhn (da-da-da, da-da-da da-da-da) bom bohm ;|), or at least that's what I say when I mumble or whistle along the music. Anyways, that music would not work in the sequence, it would bog it down. Then we get back to that staccato part for Chewie choking Lando, then the brassy part when Boba Fett says "Put Captain Solo in the cargo hold," and it's off to a rhythmic build of Han & Leia's Love Theme before we get back to Luke and Vader dueling. Here, some of the music does actually work. Basically just the part where the Imperial March plays as Luke drops his saber, rolls down after it, and Vader jumps down after him. The Force theme plays as Luke jumps out of the carbon chamber, and this is nice, but I will admit that when Yoda's Theme presents itself as Luke sprays Vader with what looks like CO2 or some other kind of exhaust gas with the cut hose...that music seems almost too comical for the scene at hand, as does the ditty of Luke's Theme once Vader falls off the platform. The Imperial March part works well, but the Force, Yoda, and Luke's Themes all would seem almost B-grade, trying to draw false hope from what is really a grave situation and works awesome without the music (hey, as long as it's on album, I'm happy). As someone described it, yes, it is the music of a small personal victory, but that is short-lived as Vader and Luke confront each other again below the carbon chamber. Here, the music is downright necessary to build the tension, because it's now that Vader stops fooling around...... Yes, I think that's it. There's no music in the first two duel sequences because Vader is just toying with Luke. Luke is throwing everything he's got at this point, since he's still a Jedi in training, but Vader only needs to use one hand on the saber to fight Luke. Once they get below the carbon chamber, however, Vader decides to kick it up a few notches and show Luke just how much of a badass he is, by not only using a double-handed saber stance, but also throwing pieces of the environment at him. It's at this point that the Imperial March in "The Duel" (aka "Clash of Lightsabers") makes its presence known. If the music were to appear earlier during the duel, it might diminish its importance here. On the flip side, once the duel progresses to the gantry arm in the central core, Vader comes out hacking quite aggressively at Luke, and the music doesn't begin until Luke's hand goes bye-bye, and then the Imperial March is stated as Vader's lineage is revealed. Again, pure dramatic goodness; the lack of music for Vader's entrance here makes us think something is afoot, which it certainly is. And to think, all I'd have needed to do is try that with the movie and score in the first place. Hehe. On a side note: I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that when the classic Star Wars DVDs come out, no matter which version of the film they are, they do like Superman: The Movie did and offer a feature to watch the films with just the score. I doubt Lucas would go for this, since he probably gets a kick out of hearing his tongue-in-cheek dialogue so much, and seeing how the prequel films' DVDs offer no such feature, but then again, those films' scores are really hacked on screen, and they won't be the "definitive" releases of those films on DVD anyways. Those will happen once all 6 have been out for a while, which is when I'll start buying Star Wars DVDs and stop being the only person I know who only saw AOTC once. PS - The |; and ;| are supposed to be a poor man's attempt at making repeat signs. Using colons would make |: and , and that somber smiley face hiyah doesn't look like a repeat sign to me.
  14. Ok, so maybe it's not really a spoiler in the sense that it gives away the whole plot of an upcoming Enterprise episode, but the link I've pasted does discuss what the 23rd episode of this current (second) season will deal with. So if you don't want to know, don't click on it. I just wanted to see what the Trekkers on this site thought about it. And DON'T post crap about how much you hate Enterprise and it sucks and it should be off the air and how much Sam Beckett (Scott Bakula) makes a lousy starship captain. Maybe something like this "discovery" will boost Enterprise. http://www.trektoday.com/news/200203_03.shtml At first, before reading the article, I thought the writers had totally lost it and were looking for anything to save the show (which isn't to say it isn't so), but this plot element actually makes sense. It addresses something in Star Trek: First Contact that Picard and friends left behind in the 2060s for someone to find later. It'd be interesting to see how the show Enterprise deals with cleaning up this part of the timeline: is the incident covered up, or forgotten, or does Daniels show up in his timeship and say "stop screwing with time, this ain't supposed to happen until the second season of TNG."
  15. That's the same thing, and what I meant; protomatter renders the benevolent and life-giving intentions of Genesis totally destructive to the point where the planet soon becomes a dead asteroid belt. I know of one episode for certain that features terraforming in Star Trek, it's in the first season of TNG when Tasha Yar was still alive. In Enterprise's "Cease Fire," the Vulcans and Andorians are fighting over a planet that the blueskins started to terraform, but that's pre-TOS, so it doesn't count.
  16. Yea, I read that somewhere, too. It makes perfect sense to me. I'm glad I rewatched a part of the movie, because I had always remembered Yoda's Theme popping up in just "The Duel," but it's also in the "Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader's Trap/Departure of Boba Fett" cue as well (I grew up on the track names of the 1993 Anthology). It's used as Boba Fett is shooting at Luke, right before Lando sends a message to Lobot, and is later used during "Clash of Lightsabers" after Luke pulls himself up onto the ledge, when Lando, Leia, Chewie, and the droids are battling their way to the Millennium Falcon. I love that driving beat underneat Yoda's Theme, which seems to kick up the intensity a lot. It does signify Yoda's tutelage to Luke, that Luke is using the skills he learned on Dagobah to help him, but this doesn't explain why it's used when Leia and the gang are on screen, and Luke's over in the central core fighting an onslaught of the Imperial March. Perhaps Yoda's Theme here represents Yoda's words of warning, of how he would have to sacrifice his friends if he valued what they fight for, since Yoda and Obi-Wan both know what horrible truth Luke would learn once he faced Vader. The use of a kickass Yoda's Theme here is Williams' way of hinting at the "I told you so" that awaits Luke once he loses his hand. I don't know if that makes much sense, I don't think I'm explaining it right.
  17. This is one my favorite John Williams pieces ever. Back in 1995 when I first got the 1993 boxed anthology, the soundtrack to The Empire Strikes back was my least favorite, the way it worked on CD. It wasn't until I watched the movie a bit more that I begun to appreciate this as my favorite out of the three that there were at the time (and with two new Star Wars films made since then, Empire's still atop the heap). Plus, what I think helped me better appreciate Empire was when I copied the CDs onto cassette, putting the various tracks from the fourth CD (alternates and unreleased cues) where they belong in IV, V, and VI. This worked wonders with Empire, putting back in "Drawing the Battlelines," "Attack Position," "Crash Landing," "Losing a Hand," and "Carbon Freeze..." Of course, the Special Edition soundtracks meant the anthology went into storage, and the cassettes were taped over. My question pertains to the "Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader's Trap/Departure of Boba Fett" cue's placement in the film. It begins when we see Luke's X-Wing en route to Bespin and plays pretty much nonstop (except for the early duel scenes, which were dramatic enough that score would've been too much) until the 10:18 mark after the climactic build of Han and Leia's Love Theme as the Slave I lifts off. After that point in the music, we cut to the second installment of Luke and Vader's duel, the part where Luke loses his saber and has to roll down the stairs to retrieve it, then ends up in the carbon chamber. Then he jumps down to the lower level, where the giant window to the center core is, and when Vader rejoins him, the music to "The Duel" aka "Clash of Lightsabers" begins, and from there until the end of the movie, it follows the soundtrack to the letter, with the exception of interrupting "Hyperspace" to allow Vader to return to the Executor. My question is, where is the last minute and a half or so of the "Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader's Trap/Departure of Boba Fett" piece, from 10:18 to 11:50? In this unseen bit of music, we hear one more bit of the Imperial March, which slowly transistions to a driving Force Theme, a skyward fanfare, and ends with a delicate bit of Luke's Theme. This music certainly is not "The Departure of Boba Fett," that came minutes ago; I want to know where it was heard in the movie, if anywhere. I don't know if this has been answered in another post earlier or not. Jakster's post on this page about Yoda's Theme made me think of it. Thanks.
  18. Yea, that's my bad. In my zeal to explain the underlying theory of the Genesis device, I kinda forgot that since David Marcus took a shortcut and used protomatter and that the planet blew up, and in the end, Genesis was wholly destructive (except as the necessary plot element to reincarnate Spock). And we can take it as evidence that since no one made a similar Genesis device since the 2280s or so when Star Trek II took place, that means no one found a better way than using volatile protomatter, hence we get real, timetaking terraforming. Either that, or the writers are lazy. Hmm...
  19. Joe, I'm not gonna argue that the movie was nowhere near as good as it could have and should have been, because it was truly a major disappointment. The plotlines were so obviously lifted from prior Treks that it was sick, and the fact that the rich back stories of TNG, DS9, and VOY were all but ignored. Not only that, but all the blindingly apparent plot holes and "why the heck did you do that instead of something that makes sense?" makes me very sad that all involved found this to be a Star Trek movie that they felt very proud of, because aside from the visuals and the heart that the movie tries to have, it just doesn't work. I would like to know why and how people think this movie is better than Insurrection. Sure, in that movie, we fight a no-name villain to save a no-name planet (a la Generations) when one of the real villains is in Starfleet (a la Star Trek VI, forgiving the stretch). I think the Trek movies are trying too hard to recapture the feel of TNG, and it's just not working. I would like to comment on some of your points, though. Yeah, this part doesn't make any sense. I mean, it's established in the show that Dr. Noonien Soong made three positronic androids: Lore, Data, and Julianna Soong, so his wife could live a longer life. Data made Lal, but she died within the timeframe of an episode. I don't understand why the writers felt they could or should just invent another android to precede Lore, except that it exists only for Data to dump his memory into, die, and then leave a way to come back once he regrets killing off his character. "Remember?" They did the same thing in ST II to bring back Spock once they realized killing him was a bad idea. I just don't think anyone will care one way or another if Data does actually come back in the form of immature B-4, if they choose to make Star Trek XI. I hope it's five minutes long: the whole Star Trek universe collapses in on itself, so no one else can screw it up. (just kidding) Plus, is anyone really ticked that they spent all that time in Generations messing with Data's emotion chip and laughing at Mr Tricorder, saying it was fused in his memory. then in First Contact, he could deactivate it? Along come Insurrection and Nemesis, and Data's got no more emotion than he did in Encounter at Farpoint. It sucks, the character development has been totally shot to pieces in these TNG movies; the characters are just cardboard cutouts of their former selves. Oh, and it made me really sad that Geordi and Data, best friends since Farpoint, got virtually no goodbye sequence. And if the plan is "oh, he's not really dead, don't say goodbye until he's really dead," well, that's just dumb. 2. Um, I think I rambled about this. While both can be used for destruction, thalaron and the Genesis effect are inherently different. Thalaron radiation is pure destruction, whereas the Genesis is simply reorganization of existing matter in favor of a new matrix that can support new life, to paraphrase Dr. Marcus. To illustrate this, I gathered some data: Thalaron on Earth: everything's deader than dead Thalaron on Moon: you can't kill what's already deader than dead Genesis on Earth: everything dies and gets reassembled to make new life, a la beginning of the Precambrian Genesis on Moon: capable of supporting life, and becomes most popular golf course in the solar system I hate when they don't explain stuff in movies, since we last left him on a planet populated by Native Americans in the 7th season of TNG. Jerks. No argument there. Yea, they kinda just forgot about the part that Romulans are descended from Vulcans, and claimed that the Remans are the offshoot of the Romulans. There's no way in hell that they should look so radically different, even with the odd orbit pattern of Remus. However, I did like the Astrometrics shot that showed Remus and Romulus both have their own orbit, like Mars and Earth at size and distance needed for life, rather than having one planet orbit the other. This solved a big argument I had with one of my friends, who thought "binary planet system" meant planets orbiting a common focus, and then that system orbits the star, which is pretty damn near impossible, since both planets would just fall into stable orbits around the sun in their own orbit paths. And one planet around the other, well, that's not two planets, that makes one a moon. Even with Pluto and Charon, Charon is still the moon. I don't want to talk about lines on noses right now. It's like the Wesley argument; there's something they're not telling us. I guess it's assumed that Worf didn't like politics, and just decided to come back to Starfleet. I'm surprised he wouldn't have joined the Klingon starfleet instead, but come on, it wouldn't be a Next Generation movie if Worf wasn't there. Which is why if there is a Star Trek XI with John-Luck Pickerd and friends, B-4 will "mysteriously and amazingly" become Data. Stupid cameo. Maybe, maybe not. I bet it will now. Nope. The Enterprise theme, i.e. the Main Title from Star Trek I, V, First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis, is the theme for the starship U.S.S. Enterprise. Doesn't matter who's captaining the thing. That theme became identified with the Enterprise-D, and thus later the E, in 1987 when it was adapted for The Next Generation. It's not a question of being lazy, or not wanting to write a new theme or march. That is the theme for the Enterprise, whether it's April, Pike, Kirk, Decker, Spock, Picard, Harriman, Garrett, Jellico, or Riker. It'd be totally inappropriate, of course, for that theme to be used in a DS9 or (heaven forbid) Voyager movie. But yes, the score to Nemesis sucked. I know this movie has been bashed in other threads before, I was just really bored and needed to vent some stuff, and yinz are always good at listening.
  20. Haha, I upset the balance. A great composer, yes. I don't think anyone can ever truly be the BEST. There's too many ways to rate greatness, that no one person could possibly ever meet them all. Film music? Probably. Film music of our time? Definitely. But out of all music, ever? No.
  21. I d/l'ed the demo and looked at it, it looks pretty sweet graphically, and just the nostalgic appeal of having your own dinosaurs run around is pretty cool, too. I hope it's significantly different from the Zoo Tycoon with the dinosaurs expansion, more like a cross between SimLife and Zoo Tycoon, with a bit of Roller Coaster Tycoon thrown in for good measure. The JP license and score are major aces up its sleeve. Now if only Sid Meier's Firaxis Games would get their Dinosaur game project back on track.... Was I logged in that time? I sure hope so.
  22. For cryin' out loud. It figures I wouldn't be logged in for my defense. Oh well. That was me previously, with one of many South Park odes to The Empire Strikes Back.
  23. So I'm a little late to the conversation, oh well. Sisko's not dead, he just no longer exists in the normal linear plane of the universe. Politely correct me if I'm wrong, Stefancos, but as I understand it, the Prophets exist in this noncorporeal, nonlinear timeframe where they just watch over the Bajorans, act as gods, monitor the wormhole, and for now are teaching Ben Sisko, their "Emissary," in their ways. However, he's not dead, since he did tell Kasidy and Jake (one directly and the other indirectly, it's been a year since I've seen WYLB) that he'd basically back. It's my opinion that the Prophets can just drop Sisko off at whatever point in time or space they want, as if he were just ripped out of our existence to a point where time and space have no real meaning and can therefore come back in like it doesn't mean anything. Kinda like what Q can do, only the Prophets aren't bastards with sick senses of humor (and I mean that with the utmost respect, Q, you rock!) As for the Dominion War being over, yes, that does pose a problem for the story arc of DS9 since it accomplished what it set out do, save the Alpha Quadrant. What happens to the Dominion once they get home could be interesting, since now the other worlds in their clutches would get the idea that they could also resist the Dominion and Jem'Hadar troops, and total revolution would ensue in the Gamma Quadrant. True, that probably won't make for a profitable movie, but I'd watch it. I agree that there should be a DS9 movie just to wrap up the loose ends with the characters and bring back Sisko with a new lease on life, but as for what the point of the movie would be, I can't think of anything that would have less "so what, that's it?" factor after seeing something like Kirk's death in Generations to close out seven great years of TNG. If they can't make an awesome DS9 movie, probably better to not even try.
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