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  1. No, as Lord Gibson already pointed it, the trailer says I am under the impression that Star Trek X: Nemesis will not be the final absolute film featuring the TNG cast, but possibly the beginning of a two or maybe even three part story arc in which the TNG cast will pass the torch to the next generation (no pun intended) of Star Trek film stars. Granted, from spoilers released, it seems that the crew will be split up, a major character will die, and there will even be a wedding, but events such as these occurred twenty years ago with the classic Trek films. After the financial success yet critical stalemate that was Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was supposed to be the final Trek movie, but after a test screening in which the movie ended with Kirk eulogizing Spock with "of all the souls I've encountered on my travels, his was the most human," the audience left the theatre as if it was leaving a funeral. Then Leonard Nimoy and Executive Producer Harve Bennett decided that maybe killing off both Spock and the Star Trek film franchise was a very bad idea, so they refilmed the end of the movie, paving the way for Spock's return and, by having Nimoy read the "Space, the Final Frontier" prologue at the film's close, basically saying that "yes, folks, Spock is coming back." Also in that film, we saw Chekov on another ship, and in unreleased footage from Star Trek III, Sulu takes command of the Excelsior, which he never *officially* gets until between V and VI. So don't get all pouty and think that Nemesis will be the last Trek movie, because it can't be. Even the events that have been released will need closure, and maybe even a way to bring the dead character back or partially back, so logically a Star Trek XI would be the way to do it. Possibly even to pass the torch to the DS9 cast or even Voyager cast to make a movie, since the events of Nemesis will be all-Federation reaching, as those pointy eared bastards the Romulans seem to forget all about the truce signed during the Domion War. --Darth Wojo, who realizes that if Nemesis IS the last TNG movie, that we'd have to wait about six more years for a Star Trek movie, so that at the end of Enterprise, we can see the Earth-Romulan War occur and the true formal birth of the Federation, unless it happens earlier in the show. AND GET RID OF THAT GODAWFUL SINGING INTRO!!! LET GOLDSMITH OR SOMEBODY ELSE WRITE A REAL PRE-TREK INTRO WITH ALEXANDER COURAGE'S FANFARE!!!
  2. Stop getting on Horner's case for being unoriginal; there's only so many notes, and only so many ways to arrange them. As for being unoriginal, can we also add Lucas to the list for being terribly uninspired for his plot elements and dialogue in the prequel trilogy? It plays like everything from a high school civics textbook to Nazi propaganda to WB soap opera, not to mention the way each episode has mirrored its classic counterpart very perfectly. Or perhaps all these TV show makers who time and time again make courtroom, police, and hospital dramas; sitcoms; and soaps that play like everything we've heard before. It's because, people, certain artists have styles they stick to, and if they never leave those styles it's their own choice. Horner writes music to be the emotional backdrop to the movies he's been commissioned to, and to make money, not to win breathtaking awards or sit at the right hand of God. If he wants to be uninspired and do what he's done before, that's his choice, and it's safe. Willow and Titanic and Braveheart and The Rocketteer and ST III and The Mask of Zorro may not be as original as people would hope, but they're damn good scores, they work in their respective films, they sell like crazy, and they put food on his family's table. What more could anyone ask of him? To be original like John Williams? Puh-leaze... All of John Williams action music sounds just as interchangeable as all of Horner's, and all of Goldsmith's, too. If something's not broke, you don't fix it. --Darth Wojo, who thinks that Luke has bigger cajones than his old man ever did. Luke lost his hand and defied the face of evil itself by jumping to his death; Anakin lost his hand and promptly passed out.
  3. Well, King Mark, would you be happy if they started to show all 3+2+7+7+7+1=27 (tos, tas, tng, ds9, voy, ent) seasons of Star Trek shows in the theatre, so you could catch up on your Trek lore?? Hmm... eek2 I know I would!
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  5. Maybe John Williams really did write 125 minutes of music for Episode II, but Sir George the ( censored ) All-Mighty just opted to either leave certain scenes scoreless, or re-use music from Episode I, music that either made the OST and not the film, or music that was entirely scrapped from Episode I. Therefore, isn't it possible that because of this whole mess, i.e. Episode II using music from Episode I and Episode VI, that ultimately Episode III will use the *missing* music from the battle scenes, et al, from Episode II, as well as even more un-used music from Episode I? It boggles the mind... Maybe someday, when Sir George ( censored ) releases the complete sextology on DVD (hehe, Star Wars and sex in the same sentence...), he'll also show the footage to that five minute-or-so scene from Return of the Jedi that already has music, between Vader's arrival to Death Star II and the droids bickering en route to Jabba's palace.
  6. The Klingon ship first seen in Star Trek III and renamed the "Bounty" when Kirk and company use it to voyage home in Star Trek IV is called a "Bird of Prey" because the baddies in III were originally supposed to be the Romulans. However, somebody (Nimoy, I believe) voted in favor of using the Klingons because they're generally more interesting (honorless enemies aren't), and so the ship model stayed on as a Klingon ship instead of Romulan, sign of another treacherous collaboration between the Empire and the Star Empire sometime between the Klingons obtained the cloaking device and Khitomer. This green birdlike design was not apparent in the Klingon battle cruiser seen in TOS episodes "Day of the Dove" and "The Enterprise Incident," but because of the switcheroo in Star Trek III, the look stayed and evolved into the Klingon Negh'Var, seen in DS9's various conflicts against the Cardassians and Dominion; a cross between the green BOP and the D7 & K't'inga battle cruisers, if you ask me. Also, the Romulan ship with the orange bird on its ventral hull seen in TOS "Balance of Terror" is a Romulan Bird of Prey. By the time TNG rolled around, that ship would have been over 70 years old ("The Neutral Zone"), so to stay parallel to Federation and Klingon ship advances, the old bird of prey gave way to the Romulan D'deridex class Warbird, with that dual hulled biplane look with null space inbetween, and a quantum singularity power source.
  7. Marian had the right idea by pointing out that someone has to read TLOTR trilogy to understand Tolkien's underlying themes. It is sad that nearly all of Tolkien's original elvish poems and stories were cut from the film and the music, but the lyrics that were written used Tolkien's languages, so it's all good. Williams, however, would probably have used Latin or Sanskrit, like for Duel of the Fates, and that would be totally un-Tolkien like. Shore's score was much better than anything Williams could've written, and besides, it wasn't at all like what Horner would've written. He'd have done a cut and paste score from the last two decades, using the same chords from the sinking of Titanic every time the Ring was on screen. I'm of the opinion that Williams would not have created a good score at all for Lord of the Rings, that kind of score is not in his vein. It's one thing to make a happy-joy-joy-like score for Harry Potter or Hook, but TLOTR is in a different category of fantasy altogether, a very dark and allegorical story that takes itself very seriously, not the tired and cliched wizards witches with broomsticks and magic wands. Give Williams small, minor movies from now on, let him finish Star Wars and Indy and however many more overrated Potters we have to muddle through, but give brand new epics to the up and coming composers.
  8. I'm not gonna disagree with you, Figo, but lemme ask you this: Who's more greedy, George Lucas or Bill Gates? :?:
  9. Yes, I heard that loud and clear in the one time that I saw the film, but I almost missed it because in my head I was listening for the line that I read in that gray, $35 Star Wars book of concept art for Episode II that had the annotated screenplay in the back. The line read: "Guiding Light to Old Folks Home." It could've been "Guiding Light calling Old Folks Home," too, but the point remains the same. So I'm guessing that those are the Star Wars equivalent of code names, like in Top Gun or something. Just thought ya might want to know.
  10. I agree with Neil that The Last Crusade ended perfectly, a la Zorro riding off into the sunset. "The Indiana Jones Trilogy" has a nice ring to it, and "the Indiana Jones Quadrilogy" or whatever you'd call it is just hard to say. Sure, I'd go see a fourth Indy film, if only for the score and the classic humor and action of an Indy film. My fear is that Lucas might try to "Episode I"-ize Indy, but I'm hoping that Spielberg wouldn't let that happen. But my question is, what the hell is he going to be looking for this time that he hasn't already found in a previous film or video game? Darth Wojo - Who would like to see Indy take the Ark of the Covenant out of that government box and do something with it, like radio God or something.
  11. That's one of the silliest things I've ever read posted here in the month that I've been visiting here. No offense, dude. If Mon Mothma were really the mother of Luke and Leia, don't you think she'd at least say hi from time to time? At least Anakin/Vader had the honesty and decency to reveal himself to his long-estranged son, and then tell him to pass it on to his sister (yea, he appeared in a dream to Leia, but we know how we feel about the books). Besides, if they redo Mon Mothma to be Padme-ish, they'd have to change all the Dark Forces and other games to make their Mon Mothmas look and talk like Padme instead of the real mccoy, Mon Mothma. Additionally, isn't Mon Mothma from Chandrilla? You're expecting Goerge Lucas to write Padme as a pathetic Hilary Rodham Clinton-esque Senator and move to another planet, and then lead the Rebellion? I don't think so! I'd wager that Mon Mothma was in the Senate even as Padme was married. The more incestuous these people try to make Star Wars, the less I like it. Darth Wojo - Who wants a time machine to jump ahead three years so all these "what if" posts can stop.
  12. Thank you to all those posters who saw the same thing that I did, a whole bunch of kiddie Bobas at the learning consoles with weird things on their heads, and adult Typhos in red jumpsuits eating the finest cuisine that Kamino has to offer. I realize that it's not likely that Naboo has ever been involved with cloning, hence my Title Subject was just to grab your attention and draw you in, not to suggest that Typho actually was a clone. I'm just interested to know why the actor was that of Typho and not Jango; anyone who argues otherwise is blind. And Naboo, even though they're pacifist, has an army to defend against the Gungans, the other military power on the planet. At least, that's the reason the Trade Federation gives in the game Galactic Battleground. To think, if I posted here as much as I played computer games.... Darth Wojo - Who sometimes wishes he could jump into stasis until May 2005, so all the anxiety and hype wouldn't be there. Maybe all I have to do is get my car up to 88 m.p.h.. ....
  13. That's a very good question, Wickenstein. I'm not sure, considering his original blue sabre got damaged (irreparably?) when his arm was being toyed with on the conveyor belt, and then someone, who I swear was the bearded one of N'Sync (not proud that I thought of that), tossed him a green one, then he got Obi-Wan's blue one, then lost one of them, and his arm in the process. I would say that he must build another one between Episode II and III. Besides, if Lucas is going to follow the close parallels between the respective episodes of each trilogy (I and IV end with processional celebrations/awards, II and V have arm-cuttings and emphasize love stories), then I'd say that another parallel would be that both Anakin and Luke build their replacement sabres between the second and third episodes of both trilogies. I was pondering it myself about a month ago in Kaybee Toys, when I saw that the toys for Anakin and Obi-Wan were both blue. We know Obi-Wan's is blue in Episodes I and IV, so he's probably responsible and hasn't lost it, unless he just likes blue replacements, but the scenes in the trailer showed Anakin with a blue one, or with a green one, or with both colors. Having a blue toy represent him seemed inconsistent with these trailers, before seeing the film, even though we know that the sabre that Obi-Wan gives to Luke is blue, therefore Anakin's final "Light Side" lightsabre of Episode III. In any case, Luke's blue sabre is not the last sabre that Anakin constructs; his Sith red one is, as Vader. Darth Wojo - Who hates when he has an important post in mind, and then forgets it while writing another. Podoo!
  14. Sorry, CCC, but I think you misunderstood my question. I know that Typho and Jango don't look anything alike. Jango's white, and Typho looked more Polynesian than black to me. What I'm saying is that the adult clones of Jango Fett eating dinner in the red suits don't look anything like Jango Fett. They look like Captain Typho. I didn't watch a bad print, and I don't have the money to go see the second worst Star Wars film umpteen times in a row.
  15. I don't know if this has already been asked before, but is anyone here knowledgeable about the Death Star creators/inventors in the Expanded Universe? I know that Expanded Universe literature is not canon and that anything in the movies (i.e. Special Edition) is the highest canon, but I seem to remember the Death Star being Tarkin's brainchild out in the Maw research facility, his pride and joy. Also, the documentation for 1998's LucasArts game "Star Wars: Rebellion," which I personally love, says this of the Imperial character Bevel Lemelisk: "Chief Engineer Bevel Lemelisk is the chief Imperial space station designer and was the creator of the Death Star." I know, I know, all this EU stuff means bull next to the movies, but now I'm interested to know the significance of the Geonosian connection to the Death Star. Did they invent the whole station, or just the superlaser technology? Dooku tells them he'll take it to his Master for safekeeping, so it's possible that Palpy just keeps this in his desk drawer until the Republic becomes the Empire, then gives it to his top scientists for further analysis/implementation/construction. It's certainly possible that because of the Empire's strong anti-alien, pro-human discrimination (hence only humans serving in the military*, and alien worlds like Kashyyk and Mon Cal being slave worlds), Imperial history forgot Geonosis' importance and gave credit to human engineers. *I know, I know, Thrawn is an alien, but he's a gifted exception, and he's EU anyways. I also feel that it may be a good thing that this "Ultimate Weapon," the Death Star, is seen early, because it could serve to indicate to us how long it takes to build. It is not inconceivable that we see the Death Star's early construction as a sign of the Republic's evolution (or rather, de-evolution) into the Empire, because I would argue that the Death Star takes a long time to build. Sure, we see the second Death Star appear unfinished in Episode VI, which is what, three or four years after the first Death Star went kabloeey over Yavin? That doesn't mean it was begun right after the first one; they could've been started together. I mean, a Death Star is absolutely huge! True, true, I'm thinking in terms of 20th century Earth human engineering standards, not "galaxy long time ago, far, far away" engineering standards, so maybe the Death Star only takes like two or three years to build, not decades like a pyramid. Heck, the Death Star itself could have been built as the Republic's final hurrah, perhaps as a way to finally defeat the Separatists, or the Empire's first action, and that Ultimate Power (next to the Force, of course) in the hands of one individual all that was needed to spark Rebellion. Not likely, but I'm brainstorming here. Darth Wojo - Who thinks that now we've unmistakenably seen the Death Star in Episode II, it just won't go away again until Episode IV.
  16. I hope that title didn't serve as a spoiler, but my dad pointed this out to me, and I honestly don't remember clearly enough. In the scene on Kamino, where Obi-Wan is viewing the full-grown Jango clones eating dinner in their matching red tunics, the actor that portrays them looks more like the actor that played one-eyed Captain Typho, Senator Amidala's protector, than Jango Fett. In fact, even though all the actors look similar, I remember the clone's skin being more reddish than Jango's, much more like Typho's. Is this an important point, or is my dad wrong?
  17. Chewie might appear, but I don't really think that a young Han or Lando should appear. I mean, the galaxy is absolutely huge, right? Tens upon tens of thousands of star systems, right? Why, then, should these Star Wars stories always involve the same people? Seeing young Han and Lando, as if they have some important part to play, would just be another convenient coincidence that would make the stories seem more forced than they already are. I think we've pretty much seen all the classic characters already that we're gonna see, with the exception of Senator Mon Mothma (Garm Bel Iblis is an EU character, I believe, so he has no higher guarantee of appearing than does Jerec or Kyle Katarn) to declare Rebellion. If the Falcon was in AOTC, that's pretty cool, because I didn't notice it. The Falcon is an old ship, so it's not unreasonable to have seen it or another YT-1300 sitting around. But then again, the prop of Luke's red speeder from Star Wars was painted green for use in Mos Espa in Episode I, that doesn't make it Luke's, does it? I mean, showing main characters from the classic trilogy as their young selves in the prequels could really make Star Wars feel really incestuous. It's bad enough that we have the plot puzzlement of Owen and Beru actually being Luke's uncle and aunt, through marriage, but we'd also have Han and Lando having something to do with the Clone Wars/Rise of the Empire/Creation of Vader? I don't buy it. And please, no more posts about Mothma or Bail Smits, er, Organa's wife being Luke and Leia's mommy, it's making my head spin! I don't believe that George Lucas would have spent two films introducing and then rapidly accelerating Anakin and Padme's mutual love, only to have one or both of them NOT being the parents of the Skywalker twins. It's bad enough that Darth Maul had a whole movie and was then killed off, leaving the far cooler and much more charismatic, effective, and villainous Count Saruman, er, Dooku only two films to make his appearance/grand exit. A plot line of "yeah, we're gonna take three movies to show Anakin and the master-of-decoys Padme fall in love, and, oh by the way, she's not Leia's mommy" would have people leaving the theatre in throngs. Haha. I know that's not what you meant, right? Good. Please, Mr. Lucas, don't make any main character a clone of his or her actual self. I can't stand the part of Palpatine's character in the Expanded Universe that says he must transfer his soul/essence/katra ( ) to cloned bodies every so often (perhaps every 28 days, explaining his irritability :roll: ) because he's so evil, or the Dark Side will cause his body to decay. I think if he were truly One with the Dark Side, the Lord of all Sith Lords, then that wouldn't be a problem for him, and he wouldn't have to resort to technology. Besides, my friends, it's totally feasible that the Jedi trait cannot be cloned; based on Lucas' choice of clonetrooper source DNA in Episode II, I interpret this as his way of telling us that the Jedi essence cannot be passed on by cloning, only by good-old-fashioned sexual reproduction. Otherwise, would it not make more sense for Sidious/Palpatine/whatever-you-feel-like-calling-McDiarmid's-character (c'mon, we all know he's behind the clone army) would've cloned himself to make the ultimate badass, all-but-unbeatable Jedi clonetroopers, not some mere human bounty hunter (albeit heavily modified). And the Kaminoans would even have altered the physical appearance of Palpy's clones so no one would could accuse him of any wrongdoing, yet. I think I'm done, for now.
  18. SUPERMAN, of course! Why should there be any doubt in your mind? It's a fantastic movie, great casting, great effects, even if they seem dated by today's standards, but hell, it was the 70's. I admit Margot Kidder doesn't necessarily make the best Lois Lane (Flying Sequence vocals, I'm lookin' at you!), but what's even greater is the score, one of Williams' absolute finest from his classic era (Jaws to E.T.), and his most thematically rich score until Return of the Jedi and Hook. The other movies just can't compare.
  19. "I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. Your life, has it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service...us." --Locutus of Borg "Mister Worf...Fire!" --Riker "Best of Both Worlds, Part I" Geordi La Forge and Ro Laren's "coming back from the dead" in "The Next Phase" always brings makes me teary-eyed, it's probably my favorite moment in all of Star Trek. Kira and Odo's first kiss on the Promenade in "His Way" "You're right, who needs dinner?" Chief O'Brien and Captain Sisko interacting with Captain Kirk in "Trials and Tribble-ations" Scotty and Kirk's external tour of the refitted NCC-1701 in The Motion Picture. The Kobayashi Maru in Star Trek II. "How we deal with death is at least as how important as how we deal with life, Mister Saavik." --Kirk Spock's death scene in Star Trek II "He's dead, Jim." --Bones "...Don't try to be a great man, just be a man, and let history judge you." --Riker "That's ridiculous, who said that?" --Zefram Cochrane "You did, fifteen years from now." --Riker paraphrased from "First Contact" There's lots more great moments, lines, etc. in Star Trek, I just can't think of them right now. Star Trek gets a bad wrap because it's very cerebral and technical, very character driven; since there's over six-hundred hours of Trek stories committed to film, miss a few episodes and you very well could be confused as all hell, especially when it comes to DS9. Star Wars, on the other hand, only has 5 movies, so it's far easier to jump into. (Expanded universes of books, etc. don't count here.) Darth Wojo - Who agrees that there are far more good Star Trek films than good Star Wars films, and way more than good movies based on books by J.K. Rowling. If I were crashed on a desert island and could only take all the Star Trek shows and movies or all the Star Wars movies, I wouldn't think twice about taking all the Star Trek stuff, it'd win in a heartbeat. And yes, this desert island has a Tokamak fusion reactor, so I'd be in no fear of losing power. And just why exactly is Stefancos "the deity of all Star Trek deities?" :?: :?: :?: :?:
  20. I think it's funny that there's people on this site that think that "Han Solo & the Princess," also sometimes referred to as "Han and Leia's Love Theme" wouldn't be a love theme just because it's not as "overly romantic" as that of Padme and Anakin, the so-called "Across the Stars." Of course Han and Leia's Theme is a love theme, if it weren't then it wouldn't be referred to by their joint naming! It's not a friendship theme for cryin' out loud! Now take "Luke and Leia's Love Theme," now there's a love theme that isn't passionately romantic, it's more reflective and controlled, as the Skywalker twins reevaluate their relationship. I can understand why Lucas and Williams would argue that the Love Theme of Anakin and Padme is the "first" love theme of the Star Wars dual-trilogy, since their "official" standpoint is of the episodic order, not of the theatrical release order. But I would argue that the love shared by Han and Leia is just as fiery and just as important as that shared by Anakin and Padme. Sure, the love of the latter gave birth to Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa (Solo), two of the three main heroes of the classic trilogy, and hence their love cannot be ignored, but that does not make it so incredibly more important than that of Han and Leia. I mean, if Leia didn't love Han so much, she wouldn't have risked her neck as Boushh to save his life! All three Star Wars love themes have become concert pieces in their own right, it's just "Across the Stars" is the "newest" one to hit audiences, even though it comes "first" in watching the movies from I to VI. Both passionate romantic love themes have about equal prevalance in their respective "middle-of-the-trilogy" films, it's just people will say that Padme and Anakin's Theme is more romantic since it's supposed to be the main plotline of the movie, while in Empire, Han and Leia's love is supposed to be secondary to Vader's mad search for Luke. I still prefer "Han and Leia's Love Theme" to "Anakin and Padme's Love Theme" anyday, probably because I just love the kiss scene in the Falcon's cockpit, and the look on Leia's face as Han is frozen, not to mention the heart-wrenching performance of their love theme at that moment, are priceless. Darth Wojo - Who thinks maybe the reason that Anakin and Padme's love is getting more attention is because in this day and age, a passionate kiss has to have tongue in it, and these two kiss with more tongue than Han and Leia did, and so they must be more in love, even if their acting is staler than that of Ford and Fisher... blah-blah-blah
  21. I played Home Alone (and a few tracks from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra) full blast on my stereo this past December once I was done with Finals and packing to go home for Christmas. Thankfully the people on the floor didn't mind, it was a great way to get in the holiday spirit! Darth Wojo - Who thinks if ever there was a time and place to use the Santa emoticon from the old JW messageboard, it'd be here and now.
  22. Nah, you've got it all wrong! Darth Vader: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father. Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him! Darth Vader: No... I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate! Luke: What's that make us? Darth Vader: Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become. Luke: No, that's not true! It's impossible. Darth Vader: Search your feelings... you know it to be true... Luke: NO!
  23. That's kinda what I thought the first time that I heard it, too, bri40. You can hear the intervals of Luke's Theme (Star Wars Main Title) and you can also pick out those of Vader's Theme, and of Anakin's as well, since they're so closely connected. It is true that the first few notes sound like Hook, but, eh, so what? It happens. It's a good melody to emulate, and it works here. Darth Wojo - Who likes the Anakin/Padme love theme, but was hoping Anakin would get his own singular theme to continue the evolution of Anakin's Theme into the Imperial March, rather than scatter the Imperial March around the score and save a few bars of Anakin's Theme for the end of the End Credits, not to mention saving the Imperial March for its proper full-blown, bombastically fiery debut when Darth Vader is born.
  24. D'oh! I thought registering automatically logged me in! Darth Wojo - Who wants to commend Ricard and The Other Powers That Be for a fine job on rebuilding and resurrecting this site. Bravo!
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