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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    I've decided that the worst thing about the first 30 seconds of "The Fathiers" is that it doesn't go for longer. I challenge anyone to listen to it and not crack a smile.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Tiburon in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    I've decided that the worst thing about the first 30 seconds of "The Fathiers" is that it doesn't go for longer. I challenge anyone to listen to it and not crack a smile.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Taikomochi in THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST   
    It's ok, at this stage we're all becoming nourished by the tears of the haters. The more you hate on this film and score the more I love it.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from leeallen01 in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    Lots to talk about, just freaking loving this score more and more. I knew it would happen, but I was still worried at how cold I felt initially.
     
    This motif was the first thing I noticed watching the film. I think it makes a few appearances later on as well. It's just classic Star Wars. I freaking love it.
     
     
     
    Another fabulous one is this action motif:
     
    I believe it's derived from this theme found in the end credits (not sure what it represents just yet, it's very exciting being part of this group thematic analysis though). 
     
    Great stuff!
     
     
    This motif actually does feature in TFA in this cue here:
     
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from greenturnedblue in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    F*** me the first track of TLJ is amazing. Didn't care for it much at all at first but now I can't get enough of it. Those "March of the Resistance" quotes especially. Amazing stuff. I'm starting to unlock this thing after a disappointing first few listens and it's great.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from crumbs in THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST   
    It's ok, at this stage we're all becoming nourished by the tears of the haters. The more you hate on this film and score the more I love it.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    Lots to talk about, just freaking loving this score more and more. I knew it would happen, but I was still worried at how cold I felt initially.
     
    This motif was the first thing I noticed watching the film. I think it makes a few appearances later on as well. It's just classic Star Wars. I freaking love it.
     
     
     
    Another fabulous one is this action motif:
     
    I believe it's derived from this theme found in the end credits (not sure what it represents just yet, it's very exciting being part of this group thematic analysis though). 
     
    Great stuff!
     
     
    This motif actually does feature in TFA in this cue here:
     
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    Docteur Qui reacted to DarthDementous in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    dear god, that motif might be the most exciting, most Star Wars-y fanfare punch-the-air-fuck-yeah moment I've heard single the original trilogy. I can't state how much I love it, and when I think that it couldn't get any better it just builds to a crescendo - simply sublime.

    TLJ is what I always wanted from a new Star Wars score. I wanted for it to sound fresh, exciting, propulsive and energetic but still just ooze Star Wars - and TLJ delivers on all those fronts for me. even the more I listen to Rose's theme in the concert suite 'The Rebellion is Reborn' it sounds like it could've easily been written for the OT, particularly how its treated so innocently instrumentation wise like Luke's theme - talk about a revitalisation!

    I'd also like to draw attention to how much the end of 'The Spark' is what I so wanted that TFA was missing in that parade grounds sequence. where the music just goes so beautifully bombastic and dramatic to really heighten the sequence, and the building nature of it reminds me of a combination of the unreleased music for the parade grounds as well as the 'Chamber of Secrets' cue from well, the Chamber of Secrets.

    I just know I'm in for a treat when my first experience of the score is positive and my love for it just keeps building on-top of that, what a great time to be a fan of John Williams!
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from DarthDementous in SPOILER TALK - The Last Jedi (open spoilers allowed!!!)   
    The level of partisanship for this film is incredible. It's prequel levels of hatred and love and it's fascinating.
     
    I'll happily be smug about how much I've begun to like it more and more, and I suspect the reasons I like it are identical to the reasons why some absolutely loathed it (the humour, the subversive plot, bold character choices). Here's a great article going into some of Johnson's visual influences and the character motivations. I'm really looking forward to my next viewing now I've unpacked a lot of it.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from DarthDementous in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    F*** me the first track of TLJ is amazing. Didn't care for it much at all at first but now I can't get enough of it. Those "March of the Resistance" quotes especially. Amazing stuff. I'm starting to unlock this thing after a disappointing first few listens and it's great.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from crumbs in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    Lots to talk about, just freaking loving this score more and more. I knew it would happen, but I was still worried at how cold I felt initially.
     
    This motif was the first thing I noticed watching the film. I think it makes a few appearances later on as well. It's just classic Star Wars. I freaking love it.
     
     
     
    Another fabulous one is this action motif:
     
    I believe it's derived from this theme found in the end credits (not sure what it represents just yet, it's very exciting being part of this group thematic analysis though). 
     
    Great stuff!
     
     
    This motif actually does feature in TFA in this cue here:
     
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    Docteur Qui reacted to BLUMENKOHL in SPOILER TALK - The Last Jedi (open spoilers allowed!!!)   
    I reaaaallllly loved that detail. It’s the kind of thing you often see in ancient mythologies. These tiny misunderstandings that lead to cosmic consequences. 
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Will in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    Lots to talk about, just freaking loving this score more and more. I knew it would happen, but I was still worried at how cold I felt initially.
     
    This motif was the first thing I noticed watching the film. I think it makes a few appearances later on as well. It's just classic Star Wars. I freaking love it.
     
     
     
    Another fabulous one is this action motif:
     
    I believe it's derived from this theme found in the end credits (not sure what it represents just yet, it's very exciting being part of this group thematic analysis though). 
     
    Great stuff!
     
     
    This motif actually does feature in TFA in this cue here:
     
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    Docteur Qui reacted to karelm in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    You're right, my bad.  I forgot until you played it and remembered liking it in The Force Awakens too. 
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    Docteur Qui reacted to crumbs in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    So I've completed my first film viewing, two OST listens and have been listening to isolated tracks all night. I was a little negative last night focusing on the things I didn't like about the score, as I was still digesting the film itself (which I consider flawed but ultimately an excellent and daring addition to the series).
     
    The score, overall, is sublime. This has to be the most thematically dense score in the entire series, and surely the most slavish JW has been to existing thematic material. For months we've speculated what TFA themes would be jettisoned prequel-style (considering his disinterest in developing his prequel themes across that trilogy) but instead we find a score rich with development of almost every theme from TFA. I'm sure we'll debate the merits of this OST presentation for years to come, lamenting that so and so wasn't included (and yeah, why on earth they recorded Main Titles fresh but reused the TFA recording), but this is an almighty OST with nary a dull moment. An earlier poster put it brilliantly when they said JW was clearly shaking the dust off with TFA and took a while to get back in the swing of things, but TLJ feels like no time has passed at all since he finished with ROTS. I often comment that parts of TFA don't sound particularly Star Wars-y, especially the thin underscore, as if JW was going through the motions and still recapturing that 'mode' of writing style. As if the further along he went the more Star Wars-y his cues felt. This score is just effortless, a gob-smacking triumph for a man at 85, writing music with such complexity it puts most other film composers to shame.
     
    Bravo to the mixing department (Murphy and Sullivan) for their sublime mix. It retains the clarity of TFA's recording but we've returned to a fuller orchestral sound. Far less heavy on the brass, it's a wetter recording that feels right at home with the LSO's prequel scores. Amazing how two scores by the same orchestra on the same stage with the same recording setup can have such a radically different sound! Really makes you question why they went so dry and brass-focused with TFA (a recording which, after hearing live with a full orchestra, was a real disservice to the score as performed).
     
    And although the film seems light on new material upon first listen, there's at least 4 significant new ideas that I've picked up on:
    Rose's Theme Luke's Island Life Theme New First Order Motif/Fanfare (first heard in Escape and reprised throughout the complete score) Admiral Holdo's Theme (mostly unreleased) I'm only at page 7 of this thread but these are just my initial thoughts.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from toothless in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    F*** me the first track of TLJ is amazing. Didn't care for it much at all at first but now I can't get enough of it. Those "March of the Resistance" quotes especially. Amazing stuff. I'm starting to unlock this thing after a disappointing first few listens and it's great.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Breadstick Basilisk in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    F*** me the first track of TLJ is amazing. Didn't care for it much at all at first but now I can't get enough of it. Those "March of the Resistance" quotes especially. Amazing stuff. I'm starting to unlock this thing after a disappointing first few listens and it's great.
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Pieter Boelen in SPOILER TALK - The Last Jedi (open spoilers allowed!!!)   
    It wasn't a decision. It was an instinctual thought. That's how thoughts work - you get the instinctual, primal thought/emotion first and then your consciousness kicks in and gives you more perspective. He didn't suddenly become a pessimist, he was overwhelmed by fear in a single moment and drew his lightsaber. As he said, it passed after a moment, but by then it was too late. 
     
    It's a character flaw, because Luke is an imperfect character. It's not bad writing, you just don't like it because it's humanising your perfect hero.
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    Docteur Qui reacted to Oskar in THE LAST JEDI - Music Featurette with Recording Sessions Footage Shown at Opening Night Fan Event   
    Apparently they are 'pen pals' (the look on the interviewer's face when she says that )
     
     
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Bilbo in SPOILER TALK - The Last Jedi (open spoilers allowed!!!)   
    Haha I really enjoyed his moment commandeering the AT-ST. It was cute, and reminded me of some of the droid humour in the prequels (which wasn't all bad).
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    Docteur Qui got a reaction from Bilbo in SPOILER TALK - The Last Jedi (open spoilers allowed!!!)   
    There's a fair bit of saltiness going on in this thread, a lot of it is hilarious (like people complaining about Porgs and merchandising being out of character for SW, as if the Ewoks, Jar-Jar and BB-8 weren't all conceived for exactly the same reason).
     
    I'm reserving proper judgement for a second viewing and some time to reflect. I had a similar experience with TFA - I wasn't immediately bowled over but came to appreciate it over time.
     
    My first thoughts are that I like how much more experimental it was in comparison to TFA. I loved everything to do with Luke, Rey and Kylo Ren. I liked that Snoke got killed and that Rey's parents were nobodies who abandoned her. I loved all of Leia's stuff and loved her own Force awakening moment and I'm genuinely devastated all over again at Fisher's passing. Luke's death was poignant (and telegraphed, as Steef mentioned, "out with the old, in with the new" is the main theme of the movie). And yes it made sense, he was physically and mentally exhausted. The saltiness about that is particularly baffling. I loved the random moments of humour like the iron coming down (with the Death Star motif playing and all). I liked Rose a lot.
     
    The film was too long. I was getting quite tired by the end, even though I was still enjoying myself. I think my biggest issue is that it's a very fragmented film. It's not structured in a particularly obvious way, and that's probably due to it being the middle film in a trilogy. I was also slightly underwhelmed by the score, but I'm more than willing to give it time to grow on me. Rey's theme was a revelation in TFA and unlocked the whole thing as a masterpiece, but I'm not expecting that to be the case with this film.
     
    There was lots to like and dislike, I'll wait to see how it distills itself for me.
     
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    Docteur Qui reacted to SourSymphony in THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)   
    Hey, Manakin, do you think you could maybe avoid using the phrase "fucking retarded?" This is the second time in two days that I've seen someone here on JWFan use the term "retard" in a derogatory way, and I find it sort of offensive. I'm sure others must, too. @Jay, surely there is a rule against this sort of thing here as there is on so many of the other forums in which I participate? I love John Williams music, and I love Star Wars. I come here to share in those passions with fellow fans, not to hear slurs and hurtful epithets. No matter race, sex, gender identity, religion, political affiliation, or even disability, I think everyone should be made to feel welcome here. Just my two cents.
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    Docteur Qui reacted to Jay in THE LAST JEDI - John Williams at the Premiere!   
    Sticking together is what good muses and their composers do
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    Docteur Qui reacted to mstrox in THE LAST JEDI - John Williams at the Premiere!   
    Was thinking about making this my avatar, except
    A) Jason already did it, and
    B)  It looks just like my current avatar anyway, minus a waffle
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    Docteur Qui reacted to Stu in What to expect from Episode VIII's Score?   
    It really is very annoying to see people be weirdly snobbish about something they know nothing about.
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